View Full Version : good torque arm?


DriveATransAm
01-24-2003, 10:51 AM
id like to hear what torque arm you have and if you would reccomend it to others. im gonna be running 1.4 60s and need something that relocates it. im looking at a spohn with dual loops currently.

vetteemt
01-24-2003, 09:00 PM
I'll let you know in a week or two. I just ordered mine a few days ago. I'm getting the Spohn crome-moly rod end with front and rear driveshaft loops torque arm. I have been checking with f-body owners in the area and on-line Spohn seems to be a well know and very good quality vendor.

tuff
01-24-2003, 09:08 PM
spohn all the way <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

ROBS SS
01-25-2003, 06:44 PM
spohn.....im getting 1.32 60's with mine <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Chris99WS6PWTMET
01-25-2003, 10:41 PM
I have the new style Spohn adjustable and it kicks ass!! Car has a SY3500, 12 bolt 3.73's, TR224, SFC's, Eibach Pro Kit, full interior on Nitto DR's and I was cutting 1.6 60's at G-ville today. The only drawback during install was that since the car is lowered we had to "modify" the tunnel to clear the TA mount on the 12 bolt. Nothing a cutting wheel, some sheet metal and a mig welder couldnt fix!!

BurnOut
01-25-2003, 11:10 PM
I'm very satisfied with my LG/G2 unit. Just swap in a polyurethane tranny mount (since it is a full-length piece that bolts to the side of the tranny with a special mount), and you should be good to go.

I know a guy (a fellow LS1tech member, Glenn98M6) who broke his Spohn arm some time back; Spohn replaced it for free (it's great to see companies standing behind their work!!), but Glenn wanted to try something different (read: quieter, with better ground clearance). He switched to the LGM arm, and to my knowledge, hasn't looked back.

Personally, I started off with the BMR Trak Pak, and like the LG arm MUCH better, as the car seems to hook harder (though I admit that I have no track times to confirm this), make less noise, and believe it or not, ride smoother.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say that either the Spohn or the BMR is a piece of $#!+; I am just providing experiences that I have had personally, as well as those of another member. I have never heard of any issues with the LG arm.

DriveATransAm
01-26-2003, 03:09 AM
how much is the LG? i heard it was like 500 bucks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> is that true?

what kind of 12 bolt do you have with the spohn?

menikmati
01-26-2003, 03:59 AM
a guy i know has a Spohn Torque Arm on a 96 T/A. it's a well made, heavy duty piece. i'm going that rout when i get around to buying a Torque Arm.

DriveATransAm
01-27-2003, 09:36 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DriveATransAm:
<strong> how much is the LG? i heard it was like 500 bucks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> is that true? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">

DriveATransAm
01-27-2003, 05:59 PM
i havent heard of many people breaking the spohn, and if they did they got a replacement. 500 for a torque arm is just more than i got to spend right now. maybe if it was closer to 400...

mitchntx
01-27-2003, 06:24 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DriveATransAm:
<strong> i havent heard of many people breaking the spohn, and if they did they got a replacement. 500 for a torque arm is just more than i got to spend right now. maybe if it was closer to 400... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I guess it boils down to value.

I would find another $100 to keep from removing my seats and carpeting to drill the necessary holes to mount a TA.

Or remove the trans mount, take it to a welding shop to have a mount welded to it.

Either way, you will spend $100 in time, material and/or effort.

When Glenn finally hit a piece of road debris with his Spohn TA and it ripped the front mount out of the car, bending the crap out of his floor pan, he decided a TA that used all the stock mounting points was more worth the effort.

And the fact that it worked very well and had zero clearance issues with exhaust, sub frame connectors, etc. was a bonus.

Evil SS
01-27-2003, 06:59 PM
Random Tech here....for a cheap adjustable torque arm....can't beat it....got it from Sam Strano on sale 285.....not bad

akaceril
01-28-2003, 01:04 AM
I just checked it is $495.00

DriveATransAm
01-28-2003, 01:37 AM
ouchie momma! too pricey for me!

mitchntx
01-28-2003, 01:57 AM
It's not too pricey when you break the others. Nineball is have great success with an LG TA.

And I'm not too crazy about having to alter or fabricate mounting points to install a part.

DriveATransAm
01-28-2003, 11:12 AM
actually, its more than 100 difference. the spohn includes 2 driveshaft loops at that price. so its almost 200 more <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> . im not a baller yet <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

rodent
01-28-2003, 12:02 PM
I just installed the Spohn TA on my Moser 12 bolt. Had a few problems getting it on:
http://www.ls1tech.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=005925
But overall, I think Spohn the best TA for the money. I like the front pivot point and how it uses the tunnel brace mounts (no drilling or welding). Guys are running 9's with the Spohn and no problems yet. I just got the single DS loop in the front. IMO, having two loops is overkill plus I can see with the rear loop getting in the way.

DriveATransAm
01-28-2003, 12:18 PM
hows clearance under the car? could you get some pictures? i wonder if it goes on a strange rearend better than a moser <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

rodent
01-28-2003, 12:28 PM
Clearance is good. I don't have any pics yet but here's a few of others:

http://www.spohn.net/index.cfm?fuseaction=content&contentid=22

QTP did say the strange was different so maybe it fits that axle better.

DriveATransAm
01-28-2003, 02:05 PM
how come some of the pictures have 2 sets of holes?

rodent
01-28-2003, 02:58 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DriveATransAm:
<strong> how come some of the pictures have 2 sets of holes? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Spohn makes 2 brackets. I think one bracket is for the 10 bolt (1 set of holes) and the other bracket is for the 9" or 12 bolt (2 sets of holes).

Edit:
I just called Spohn and told him my story. He said that it's okay to grind the bracket and use the other holes. He also said, they only use 1 bracket now that fits all axles (10 bolt, 12 bolt, 9") and thats the one with the two sets of holes. The one bracket in the picture with one set of holes is an older style bracket.

<small>[ January 28, 2003, 02:05 PM: Message edited by: rodent ]</small>

DriveATransAm
01-28-2003, 03:10 PM
they upgraded the design and you still have to modify it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

did he say anything about strange rearends fitting better?

rodent
01-28-2003, 05:55 PM
Yep. I forgot to ask about the strange. He had mentioned that all 12 bolts seam to be different. Maybe I got an odd one since I didn't order directly from Moser but it is a Moser housing.

DriveATransAm
01-29-2003, 01:58 AM
it works with flps and i can get a dsl that works with them too! im sold, lol. i already had to bang my g-load to get with flps. when the ds let go it pushed the exhaust down so it doesnt look like its lower than stock... http://j7.ee.pitt.edu/pictures/41/41-3.jpg

hmmmmm

megathumpzillaX
01-31-2003, 03:46 PM
looking at the pictures of the sphon it looks like the front loop is redundant. If the front were to fail it'd be held up by the mount. It'd tear the (*&(^ out of everything but wouldn't let you catapult your rear end off...more than likely it'd waste your exhaust and pan, but stll less of an issue than tearing your rear off at warp speed.

rodent
01-31-2003, 05:19 PM
Front driveshaft damage:

<img src="http://www.dwarfcarracing.com/driveshaft_damage_to_tunnel.jpg" alt=" - " />
I know it's a sprint car but DAMN!

I guess when it comes to safety, you can never be too redundant. I take my comment back about the rear loop being redundant.

<small>[ January 31, 2003, 04:20 PM: Message edited by: rodent ]</small>