Midwestern Members - another ticket question

i got a ticket for going 64 on 45. he gave me a ticket that i can pay online, 80 dollars and receive a supervision.

now my question is this... on the actual ticket that he gave me it says 06 silver impala. that is clearly not a car that i was driving. do you guys think i can do anything to get out of this ticket?

I'd say its worth a shot. If it was just the year or color of something of that nature, I wouldn't try, but being the incorrect car altogether you might have a case. Go talk with the public defender about that.

just call up the court place and ask to speak w public defender?

but yes, he got year and make completely wrong

does it change the fact that you were doing 64 in a 45?

my car doesnt go faster than 45 lol. would that work?

does it change the fact that you were doing 64 in a 45?
no it doesn't change that fact, but the document is incorrect and last I ever heard was that an incorrect document is a false document, and a false document will not hold up in court. and like i said, its worth a shot, not saying your 100% in the clear

and for the public defender, i usually just go to the court house, they have an office there, at least thats how its set up in Aurora

I would contest, especially since that ghey ticket is for 9 over!!! I'd be mad.

PSJ, your math sucks, 64 - 45 = 19

a typo on a ticket does not negate the ticket. As long as he has your name and license number correct, and was there to witness you speeding and is in court to testify to it, you're pretty much sol. If you were speeding, own up to it. If you don't want to get speeding tickets, don't speed. It's actually pretty simple.

If you don't want to get speeding tickets, don't speed. It's actually pretty simple.

Is it really that simple? Often times even the state police don't bother to obey the speed limit. I'll be doing 70mph in a 55 zone, and they pass me by going 75+. Not that I'm complaining at all, actually I think it's great that most state cops also seem to realize how retarded the 55mph limit is on northern IL expressways, but the point is we all speed and speeding tickets are just a game that the state and local governments play to make money. Some days the limits get enforced strictly, other days barely at all.

Granted 64 in a 45 is pushing it a little, but depending on the area, traffic at the time, and weather conditions, 64 may have been plenty safe. I've seen some 45 zones that really should be 55+.

Overall it's really the state's fault for keeping limits too low in certain areas. Can't blame the officers for that, but I don't think anyone here is. The cop was just doing his job, however I can't blame the guy that got the ticket for trying to keep the money is his pocket rather than the state/county/city.

Yes it is really that simple. I can 100% gaurantee you that if you don't speed you won't get a speeding ticket. As far as tickets being money makers for the state, it's all a matter of perspective. It also can be looked at as an incentive for drivers to slow down. If you want to drive wide open everywhere you go, that's your choice. But when you get caught breaking a traffic law, there's nobody to blame but yourself, not the state, not the cops, just you. I'd like to think the act of taking responsibility for your actions is not a lost art.

I can 100% gaurantee you that if you don't speed you won't get a speeding ticket.
drive in Sugar Grove for a while and then try saying that

I've been in this business awhile and have never seen or heard of any cop making shit up so he can write a speeding ticket. Job>speeding ticket. If what you say is true that's just beyond rediculous.

ive seen tickets written by SG cops before for 46 in a 45

As far as tickets being money makers for the state, it's all a matter of perspective. It also can be looked at as an incentive for drivers to slow down.

It’s mostly just a game. That’s why things like court supervision exist for minor and seldom offenders; you wind up paying a fine (government still gets their cash) but your record stays clean for insurance purposes. If was really all about safety and incentive to slow down, then everything would go on your record for the insurance companies to see regardless, and penalties would be FAR more severe.

But what would happen then?

Well, if penalties were far more severe and options like supervision/classes didn’t exist to keep your record clean for insurance, more people might actually obey every speed limit, in addition to every other traffic law. Then the local/state governments would lose a revenue base and be forced to make it up in other ways, like raising taxes. And what happens when politicians raise taxes? It hurts their re-election campaigns. But traffic tickets do nothing to effect election results, so this is a better option. It looks great on paper: The people that pay are the people that disobey. So people that only get minor speeding tickets once in a great while show up to court, pay their reduced fine, take the supervision, keep the state funded, and life moves on.

Again, my point is, this is all just a game really. Not to say that people shouldn’t be responsible for their actions (I agree with you on that one), but I can’t see anything wrong with someone choosing to go to court and get the fine reduced and their record kept clean, regardless of whether they were actually speeding or not. They are just playing the game that the state created.

And you’re right. It’s not the cop’s fault (I never did blame the police) it’s just the way things work.

But I do still believe that the state should reconsider speed limits on many roads, especially the expressways. Modern safety equipment on today’s cars can allows drivers to stay safe in higher speed collisions than what they did 20 years ago.

well even 46 on 45 is breaking a law, but thats jsut stupid

When you get pulled over and they ask if you know how fast your were going, or why you were pulled over. I think you should get a ticket for not knowing!! At least if you know how fast you were going you were paying attention.

Speeders are usually paying attention. It is the people doing their makeup, talking on the phone while reading the paper that usually try to run into me... Excessive speeding I agree is not a good idea.

As for your ticket, you would have to talk to a lawyer to see if you ticket is valid. If the wrong vehicle is on there, it would be just an easy to claim that he wrote the wrong speed also.

Brian

a typo on a ticket does not negate the ticket. As long as he has your name and license number correct, and was there to witness you speeding and is in court to testify to it, you're pretty much sol. If you were speeding, own up to it. If you don't want to get speeding tickets, don't speed. It's actually pretty simple.

Incorrect. False info like make/model & color DOES negate the ticket!

Incorrect. False info like make/model & color DOES negate the ticket!
Okay, whatever you'd like to think.

Okay, whatever you'd like to think.

Are you a lawyer? No! Do you work with any type of court or legislature? I was a paralegal in the Marines and know the legal system. IT DOES NEGATE THE TICKET. Any false information on a police report/ticket can be argued and 9 times out of 10 is in the plaintiff's favor.

Try again junior, you'll lose.

You were a paralegal? That's like a glorified secretary right? I'd put a nice wager on that I've been in a few more courtrooms than you son. Have you ever been in law enforcement? Being a paralegal doesn't count.

You were a paralegal? That's like a glorified secretary right? I'd put a nice wager on that I've been in a few more courtrooms than you son. Have you ever been in law enforcement? Being a paralegal doesn't count.

I was actually a Legal Service Specialist (MOS 4421) And yes, actually, I trained as a MP as well. That is military police for you dumb fuck!

Pretty ballsy to be talking shit like that to a Marine, but then again, I bet that is all you can do with a keyboard. What are you, some pot marked faced pussy who was picked on in high school and became a cop?

In case you want to know what I did in the Marines, here is a link:

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/marineenjobs/bl4421.htm

All I said was the information you gave to the kid was incorrect and you had to fire back and say "Whatever you think" like I don't know what I am talking about. I know the legal system a lot better than you do, I'm sure. Next time, think about what you're gonna say, you look like a dumb bitch!

Why is it that 99% of the posts you make on this site are not TECH related, and they are either shit talking to other members or useless garbage? Seems like you are trolling the site. I will make sure Admin looks into your account.

All I said was the information you gave to the kid was incorrect


Matt, his information is not entirely incorrect. Comes down to the judge, officers presence in court, legal representation, etc. Spend an hour in traffic court and you can see it first hand.

I was actually a Legal Service Specialist (MOS 4421) And yes, actually, I trained as a MP as well. That is military police for you dumb fuck!

Pretty ballsy to be talking shit like that to a Marine, but then again, I bet that is all you can do with a keyboard. What are you, some pot marked faced pussy who was picked on in high school and became a cop?

In case you want to know what I did in the Marines, here is a link:

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/marineenjobs/bl4421.htm

All I said was the information you gave to the kid was incorrect and you had to fire back and say "Whatever you think" like I don't know what I am talking about. I know the legal system a lot better than you do, I'm sure. Next time, think about what you're gonna say, you look like a dumb bitch!

Why is it that 99% of the posts you make on this site are not TECH related, and they are either shit talking to other members or useless garbage? Seems like you are trolling the site. I will make sure Admin looks into your account.From your response I take it that you have nothing left to offer but insults. If you're really interested in how traffic court works check your local pd for the next court time and date and show up to see how things go.

Traffic court is not criminal court, a prosecutor does not have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that what the officer said happened. The prosecutor only has to prove that what the officer says is more likely what happened than what the defendant says, which the judge rules in favor of the prosecutor (officer) almost 100% of the time.

You're saying that you know the legal system, and I'm sure you know the legal system better than the common man doing what you did, but you're lacking in how a traffic courtroom operates, I am not.

If you think I'm ballsy talking "shit" to a ex-Marine, you have no idea what I actually do for a living. As far as having an admin look into my posts, be my guest. As for the pussy comment, I'm just going to laugh that one off.

Doesnt matter, my ticket said i was driving a firebird(drive a camaro), they had the wrong date. they still got my liscense suspended, 19 mph just send in the money unless you wanta pay for a lawyer that could maybe get you off. I'd say your screwed thou. My $.02. Also was it recorded, if it was your 100% not going to win. Good Luck if you decide to fight it.

I have had 14 traffic tickets, and one conviction (5 tickets) took almost three months & multiple court dates to resolve, so I have spent plenty of time in a traffic court room. Out of those 14, I have been convicted on 6 of the 14 and have done court supervision on 5 of them. Only one is technically on my record and has been reported to my insurance company. All I am saying is tha it is not the end of the world if you get a speeding ticket or other moving violation. Always check over the ticket to make sure the ticket has the proper information on it. If you know you were in the wrong, try and do court supervision or traffic school. But be careful, you can only do it once ever four years I believe.

P.S. "Rubber Duck":

There is no such thing as a "ex-Marine" Once a Marine, always a Marine. Semper Fi :usa: You'll have a great Wednesday!