Eastern Members - Wheelie bars for f-body

Anyone know who makes a good pair of wheelie bars that fit an 02 f-body without any major "hacking" to the bumper and gas tank???

Your Dad should've had the wheelie bars on the LS7 car today, Justin. Maybe he wouldn't have stood the car on the rear bumper or bent things up like that. Lucky it wasn't worse....with the new slicks, that car is really a savage. WJ

You have no choice. bye bye gas tank and you have to cut the floor.

ouch, maybe he'll just have to learn how to ride the bumper....

ouch, maybe he'll just have to learn how to ride the bumper....

Doesn't have to.Have a chassis shop move the instant center forward.Unless your torque arm is already height adjustable.

what tq arm is on the car? I'm with slowhawk, at the power level that car is at, I dont't think it should be going on the bumper no matter what tire is on it.

justin give Jamie a call his 95 camaro was making more power than that and he had it launching hard and just a mild wheelie he did the suspension he'll know how to fix it

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e185/fatazz163/DSCF0017.jpg

heres the only pick we found, NED's camera guy wasnt out there, but oh well, when it came down, it broke the rack, bent the header into the oil filter causing a synthetic oil mess at NED that took 2 hours to clean. We havnet got the car on a lift to check out if there is any more damage yet.

Jeff, call me on this. I have a local fabrication guy that has done some wheelie bars without the need for tank removal. I did mine with the stock panhard location and stock tank but needed to cut the rear floor pan a bit. I also have some suspension tricks to keep the wheels down.

Mikey

sent you a pm about getting it done.....

I'd put an O-shit bar on there too so it might save some parts next time.

I'd put an O-shit bar on there too so it might save some parts next time.


they are called Save Your Ass Bars MADMAN makes them

WOW :drive: :eek2:

Needless to say, the NED management was not impressed w/having to do that oildown cleanup, however, there were quite a few blown motor oildowns on Sat., also. They did get the complete show done, regardless. A good job by the NED crew on Sat. Traction was superb, as well. WJ

Ouch, that had to have hurt. To think I did the same thing a month ago and I was just driving on the roadway. I bent my k-member, cracked the front bumper, dented the headers and cracked a wheel in half all because of PENN DOT and the roadway buckling.

Glad he's okay, that must have been pretty nerve racking.

its all suspention. haVE SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THERE DOING SET IT UP.

I WAS MAKING 750 RIGHT OUT OF THE HOLE LAST YEAR, AND HAD A PERFECT 2-3 FOOT WHEELIE GOING.
ITS ALL IN THE SUSPENTION.

sorry for the caps, bump the key

He hasn't had a chance for Jamie MIller to com eto the track with us to fine tune the suspension. Im sure he can work it out, he has the same exact set up on his car and he is also making around 750 out of the hole, or was, i think he sold that car, but idk.

he bought the car back and is gonna run drag radial class with it

He hasn't had a chance for Jamie MIller to com eto the track with us to fine tune the suspension. Im sure he can work it out, he has the same exact set up on his car and he is also making around 750 out of the hole, or was, i think he sold that car, but idk.

Better hurry up before the car really hurt's itself on a launch :) Brads car launches perfect will alot more HP/Tq out of the hole.If you can't get Miller,maybe you can contact his guy.

Jeff, I am sure we can fix the wheelie problem. we just need to scale the car and put a different setup, now that you are running a slick. I know a guy that knows a thing or 2 about getting a race car down the track. :)

Hopefully, that will be the last look at the moon Bruso will get while leaving the line w/the blk LS7 car..... :D WJ

Better hurry up before the car really hurt's itself on a launch :) Brads car launches perfect will alot more HP/Tq out of the hole.If you can't get Miller,maybe you can contact his guy.
east side did the main set up, and i do the tweeking. ken and rich tought me a huge amount about suspention. they are damn good!!!!!! :hail: :hail:

Hopefully, that will be the last look at the moon Bruso will get while leaving the line w/the blk LS7 car..... :D WJ

ya my cousin jack in the creme colored chevelle hopes so too since he was stuck behind it for an 90 minutes waiting for cleanup

so how did this car wheelie so hard? Its an NA ls7 which isnt huge hp by any stretch. Is it a stick or auto? I cant see an auto doing that if its setup right. Either way thats a pic that gets saved over the mantle :jest:

so how did this car wheelie so hard? Its an NA ls7 which isnt huge hp by any stretch. Is it a stick or auto? I cant see an auto doing that if its setup right. Either way thats a pic that gets saved over the mantle :jest:


hell yea that pics is NASTY i would like to have one like that with my car but without the damage...LOL

that would have scared the crap out of me

Awesome Wheelie pic. :)

Set the instant center real aggressive for drag radial use, so the car hts the tire real hard out of the hole to get it to hook... then add slicks to the car instead od the radials... and there you go, a bumper dragger! Only thing that maybe could have stopped that would have been staying in it and pulling 2nd gear as soon as the rise continued, that might have silghtly bogged it and made it set back down soft... with the damage that is being stated that occured, that makes me think that the brakes got hit and/or the driver let off, both which are what 99.99% of people would do, myself included. A set of madman bars would be a wise investment when it's back together, and a definate add on when I put a k member on my car that I am 100% on.

I hope my shit will hang the front tires off the transbrake, but not like that LOL.

PurEvl so how did this car wheelie so hard? Its an NA ls7 which isnt huge hp by any stretch. Is it a stick or auto? I cant see an auto doing that if its setup right. Either way thats a pic that gets saved over the mantle

it is a auto and does have a loos converter...believe it or not he only footbraked it to 3,000, the car still has a trans brake that he hasnt used yet...purevl i think it is making more horsepower than ya think... a stock ls7 is at 505bhp i could be wrong but i believe its making sumthing in the 700-750 range, not to mention those ls7's are torquemonsters....i wish my dads car wheelied like that

I would say he hasn't trans braked it because it would slam the bumper :) The instant center has to be moved forward---alot and I would guess probly get the converter restalled. Our 1100hp Stang had the same problem on DR's.After the suspension and tighter converter it hangs the front's wheels 1-2' past the 60' mark.

I don't even think a restall is needed, just getting the suspension set up right would solve it. I mean there's no way that thing is making the power on motor that Brad was leaving the line last year with a 250 hit off the transbrake, and he was nowhere near putting the car on the bumper.. the pic that's above makes it look like it immediately lifted the nose to the sky and slammed the bumper, wish I could have seen that, must have been violent to say the least.

I don't even think a restall is needed, just getting the suspension set up right would solve it. I mean there's no way that thing is making the power on motor that Brad was leaving the line last year with a 250 hit off the transbrake, and he was nowhere near putting the car on the bumper.. the pic that's above makes it look like it immediately lifted the nose to the sky and slammed the bumper, wish I could have seen that, must have been violent to say the least.
my car came close to the bumper last year, but it was all in the suspention, id go almost hit the bumper, make a few tweeks, then she would be sitting pretty. if i was racing a shitty track and made it hook, then the next time out the track was real good, those where the fun rides where i was watching the telophone polesto be sure i was straight because i couldnt see the track. lol
suspention suspentiopn suspention

it is a stick and does have a loos converter

im confused with this. lol
i know its a auto cus i saw it, but its not both. lol

the car is a turbo 400, jordan doesnt know what hes talking about, that day it was footbraked to 2400 rpms.
I have no doubt in my mind that Miller can get the car down the track. He knows his stuff..

Brad its suspenSION not suspention suspentiopn suspention
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It's brad typing... that's how he spells stuff :eek2:

the whole chassis tuning thing though... with a new setup, it's always a good idea to shake it down first, if that was the first time the car had slicks on it, a smar t thign to do would have been to set the car a little conservative on the shock settings, and elave of idle to see what it was gonna do, even footbraking it up to 2400 with a new setup is kinda ballsy IMO, and the bumper drag kinda proves my point.

I'm sure once the owners are comfortable and learn the car they will be fine, it just seems like they got in over their head a little, the power that they put in the car is probably a little too much for them to be learning a car with.. but I guess it's probably smarter to build it once and be done with it.

Hes been to the track with the slicks about 3-4 times, footbraking it to the same rpm, but the DA on those days was about 3400, and it pulled a nice even 2 foot wheelie, The air on saturday was around 1200 on that pass, and they sprayed the shit out of the track for the promods. He wants it to look like a stocker when it launches, we love the way those cars launch, most 11.50 cars and faster inthe all star class have done at least one bumper drag from what ive heard, and thats why just about everyone has wheelie bars too..

the pic that's above makes it look like it immediately lifted the nose to the sky and slammed the bumper, wish I could have seen that, must have been violent to say the least.

It actually wasnt that violent, i was standing behind and it seemed to go up smooth. But then again looking at that pic, it did come up pretty fast. the guy he was racing said that hes never seen a car wheelie like that on the side of him.
The tubular k member was bent also. New oil filters on and has normal oil pressure, etc so there was no damage to the engine.

the crash bar that madman makes, does it protect the rack??? thats the only thing exposed on that car, besides the headers.

the crash bar that madman makes, does it protect the rack??? thats the only thing exposed on that car, besides the headers.


PM MADMAN he can answer any questions ya have

i know i saw NEXT do that at the track and the bars saved his car
http://www.nextracing.net/Videos/NextRacing.wmv

it is a stick and does have a loos converter...believe it or not he only footbraked it to 3,000, the car still has a trans brake that he hasnt used yet...purevl i think it is making more horsepower than ya think... a stock ls7 is at 505bhp i could be wrong but i believe its making sumthing in the 700-750 range, not to mention those ls7's are torquemonsters....i wish my dads car wheelied like that

base ls7 is 430-440 at the rear wheels I was saying its most likely 550rwhp, I dont talk flywheel crap. That car is no where near 700-750hp natural.

Don't think I've ever seen a stick car w/a loose converter, Mr. Borderline....Jeff's car had been running MT D/R's previous, and am pretty sure they never made any suspension changes when the new ET Drag slicks were bolted on...Probably the main reason for the bumper-stander, like most have said. Perfect air and traction last Sat....Many people had new 60' bests and overall bests...WJ

wj, i know jeff's cars and justins car very well, i detail them and my father maintains them..i meant to say auto but i guess i wrote stick.

Pur Evl, i know for a fact that the car dynoed close to 700 at the crank if not more.

wj, i know jeff's cars and justins car very well, i detail them and my father maintains them..i meant to say auto but i guess i wrote stick.

Pur Evl, i know for a fact that the car dynoed close to 700 at the crank if not more.

umm ya like i said about 550rwhp jsut like all the other ls7 with heads and cams. 18-20% drive train from 700 is 550-560 :jest: :jest:

It made 590 at teh rear wheels in the heat of the day, so on saturday it was around 610+-15, and its making about 650 ft lbs of torque at the rear wheels.
Brad what are you running for gears???

ya my cousin jack in the creme colored chevelle hopes so too since he was stuck behind it for an 90 minutes waiting for cleanup

He's in Central mass right???????

He's in Central mass right???????

ya, he said it was like a 5 foot high wheelie :jest: and he still hates the fact how us ls1/ls6/ls7 guys make these fast as cars while those old timers are going slower in big blocks. Although hes going 9.50 on a home built 2 bolt main 468.

It made 590 at teh rear wheels in the heat of the day, so on saturday it was around 610+-15, and its making about 650 ft lbs of torque at the rear wheels.
Brad what are you running for gears???

your 650 rwtq is a converter number trust me. No ls7 with a th400 is making that kind of tq. Either way, the car rips

It made 590 at teh rear wheels in the heat of the day, so on saturday it was around 610+-15, and its making about 650 ft lbs of torque at the rear wheels.
Brad what are you running for gears???
i run a 3.73, its a little low for the glide, but it was perfect for the th-400.
your dads car with that power and a 28" slick should have atleast a 3.90

as for the cars HP, 600 is about right to the wheels. i was 750 to the wheels out of the hole 300 shot, and stood 2 feet up 99% of the time. its all in the suspention. even my first passes this year where pretty mint. just a little wheelie and that was it. i was close to the same wheel power, but lighter then last year, and i moved alot of weight around, so for a first pass out, a little preload adjustment, and i was golden.

i think i will do bars for next season, but next season should be interesting!!! :devil:

your 650 rwtq is a converter number trust me. No ls7 with a th400 is making that kind of tq. Either way, the car rips
lol, yhea, one pass when we where tuneing my car on motor it made like 800 ft pounds. lol
then the next pull it was like 400. im going to geuss its more in the 400's because a few of them read 530-550 so 500 tops.

but the car can make 100 hp or 1000 hp, if the power isnt getting to the ground the right way, you spin or wheelie.