donkey mule

I just raced a full bolt on 04 Mustang Gt in my 95 TA with 3.73's, full exhaust , Madz28 programming, ect. I talked to the kid at the stop light before we went and he said his car was a full bolt on 04 GT. He said he had full exhaust (that thing sounded nice!), intake, 4.11's and he said a few other bolt ons. Anyway, light turns green and he jumps on it. I nail it and instantly stop his jump and started pulling on him pretty good. By 70 I had 1 1/2 cars on him and was still pulling and he let off. I seen him at the next light and he seemed disapointed, he shrugged his shoulders and drove off. What does a full bolt on 04 GT Mustang with DR'S typically run in the 1/4?

gyrene2003

with exhaust and radials ive seen anyware from low 14s to mid 13s, depending on the driver mod!!! Really not impressive!!! Good kill BTW!

AROD427

If he had a full bolt on GT, it should be a decent runner I would say mid 13's to low 13's. was it a stick or an auto? if it was a stick I dont think the kid new how to drive. anyways sounds like you have strong running LT1.

donkey mule

It was a stick. Yeah my LT1 is a strong runner. Only has 48,000 miles on it and I have surprised more than a few people who have raced me. Some people have a stigma about LT1's being slow and are surprised when they see tail lights. I'll never forget a 01 ss that smirked at my car at a stop light. I gave him a rev and he gave a nod. light turns green and we are both on it. We hit 85 and I had 1 car on him. He was not happy! He wouldnt even look over at me afterwards.

mpe488

yeah, I have been suprised by LT1s before. I didn't get beat but I was bone stock and up to 80 I had a bolt-on LT1 right on my tail. But I did baby it a bit off the line.

Good kill, I think LT1s run slightly faster than 99-04 GTs bone stock, but my understanding of physics would say they have better response to mods.

S8ER95Z

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mpe488 - I have a few LS1 stocker friends around here who used to hate me. I had a few more mods than most apparently but I would edge them out even if we took it up to 100+ mph (the ported stock heads helped a ton)... after the cam it was a different ballgame against them. I only ran 14.1 @ 97mph bone stock so I had a ways to go to catch up.

Sparetire

The newer 4.6s got a lot better. I suspoect they are putting down more throughout their range on top of being up to 265. Personally I think they could hit 12s on a great DA and track prep in an 5M with all bolt ons and DRs. But the trap would not be there. AFAIK they make about 300WHP at best with full bolt ons.

Thats a nice race you had. You will less mods but more cubes, him with more mods and probably better flowing heads but less cubes. Nice kill for sure.

0utlawTorn

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Being a 5spd, drag radials, and the 4.11s thats definitely a low 13 second-high 12s car with a good driver.

J E T

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He didn't say a "full bolt on" GT. He said full exhaust, intake, 4.11's and a few other bolt ons. The few other bolt ons could be anything. Either way, good race.

S8ER95Z

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I don't know about him having better flowing heads....

2V Mustang PI
.100 53 49
.200 105 84
.300 140 107
.400 155 123
.500 159 133
.550 162 135
.600 164 138
LS1
.100 61 53
.200 129 101
.300 189 137
.400 221 165
.500 227 179
.600 227 188

burnzilla

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I try my best

Sparetire

Yeah, but LS1 heads own LT1 heads in stock form IIRC.

On a side note, you have a great point. Why the heck did Ford go to all the trouble of using OHC heads if they did not get decent flow out of them? OHC heads are much easier layout wise to get lots of flow, yet a 2V GT head flows less than a 2V LS1 head. Never got what Ford was thinking there.

GMmexican

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emissions?

AROD427

[QUOTE=00 SLVR Z]He didn't say a "full bolt on" GT. He said full exhaust, intake, 4.11's and a few other bolt ons. The few other bolt ons could be anything. Either way, good race.[/QUOTe}

"I just raced a full bolt on 04 Mustang Gt in my 95 TA with 3.73's, full exhaust , Madz28 programming, ect. I talked to the kid at the stop light before we went and he said his car was a full bolt on 04 GT. He said he had full exhaust (that thing sounded nice!), intake, 4.11's and he said a few other bolt ons. Anyway, light turns green and he jumps on it. I nail it and instantly stop his jump and started pulling on him pretty good. By 70 I had 1 1/2 cars on him and was still pulling and he let off. I seen him at the next light and he seemed disapointed, he shrugged his shoulders and drove off. What does a full bolt on 04 GT Mustang with DR'S typically run in the 1/4?"

I am sorry but by reading this it looks like he said full bolt on at least 3 times. My mistake

AROD427

I used to have a 1996 SS camaro A4 the best time that I got at Fontana Speedway was a 14.4. I never did any mods to the car, it was very nice looking but I had to sell it I could not afford the insurance I was only 21 then. I have seen and raced several LT1's with my Foxbody and it seems that there are some freaks and then there are some that are not all that fast just like with Foxbody's, and do I dare say LS1's too.

Your thread appears to say that this was a full bolt on GT, if this is true that car with a decent driver should be a low 13-12.99 car. Very impressive on your LT1 sounds like it runs a hell of a lot better than my old LT1. Congrats on that.

S8ER95Z

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Good point...but I still believe LT1 heads flow 210~215ish?

The only reason I think ford did the OHC bit was to appease the snobs/ignorants that think OHC is better or somehow 'new' technology.

S8ER95Z

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2V Mustang PI
.100 53 49
.200 105 84
.300 140 107
.400 155 123
.500 159 133
.550 162 135
.600 164 138

Here are some LT1 head flow numbers I found posted...
.100 60.2 46.1
.200 119.1 93.6
.300 170.9 123.5
.400 198.9 141.2
.500 206.4 153.2
.600 200.9 156.0

Denom

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With full bolt ons a 04 GT probably makes about 260whp. I'd say they run a mid 13 sec. 1/4 mile. From what i've read, stock, 99+ GT's put down about 220-230whp. It's a real uphill battle to get them past 250whp. Of course with heads/cam they can do some damage, but i'm just talking bolt ons (CAI, full exhaust, engine tuning).

Good kill nonetheless. Have you run your car at the track? What did it run? It must be atleast a mid 13 sec. car I would think, or you've raced poor drivers :p

S8ER95Z

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Yeah for the longest time over on the corral they said getting past 300rwhp with bolt ons was nearly impossible.

Denom

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300whp with a 2V Mustang GT, without heads/cam. Yeah right!!!! Those cars, as I mentioned earlier only pump out 230whp typically. Full bolt ons are not gonna add 70whp. It's a mustang, not a supra (03/04 Cobras excluded).