Military Hotrod Club - Im curious about your branch pride

i know from time to time you guys will have a friendly/joking arguement about how your branch is better. i wanna hear some interesting situations where its come up. why some ppl get bent out of shape about it is kind of immature to me.

sometimes people do get all bent out of shape over this... i dont know why they cant just accept the fact that the United States Marine Corps is the best.

sometimes people do get all bent out of shape over this... i dont know why they cant just accept the fact that the United States Marine Corps is the best.
Haha , sure it is, and those year long deployments rule too :eyes: Most of those guys are mad because they cant score high enough to join the air force. I love when branches make fun of each other, its funny as hell. Just as long as people dont take it serious.

and those year long deployments rule too

year long? you must be using a different calander ;)

sometimes people do get all bent out of shape over this... i dont know why they cant just accept the fact that the United States Marine Corps is the best.



:judge: :engarde: :chug:

Marine corps deployments are short just like the airforce. The army has the long deployments.

Marine corps deployments are short just like the airforce. The army has the long deployments.

I am in no way trying to turn this into a pissing match... but I just got back from Iraq a few months ago (USMC)... I had been in Iraq for quite a while :eyes: I had seen a pretty sizeable number of Army units come and go while I was there.

-the length of your deployment has everything to do with your job, location, and OpTempo.... not what branch you are in. :judge:

The Coast Guard is the best!! LOL:drive:

What you mean like when AF personel get substandard living pay for being on Army bases? :)

The Coast Guard is the best!! LOL:drive:
I agree.

I am in no way trying to turn this into a pissing match... but I just got back from Iraq a few months ago (USMC)... I had been in Iraq for quite a while :eyes: I had seen a pretty sizeable number of Army units come and go while I was there.

-the length of your deployment has everything to do with your job, location, and OpTempo.... not what branch you are in. :judge:
You wont find me in a pissing match. I agree I have seen some marines stay longer than army. My first tour was only 7-8 months in OIF I we had a spacific war time mission when we were done we went home. The second tour OIF III was a lot longer 12 months well seemed it anyway. We had no spacific mission so we did a lot of things till our time was served. I am just glad to hear that you made it out safe :usa:

year long? you must be using a different calander ;)

Air Force members can generally spell better as well. :jest:

I am just glad to hear that you made it out safe :usa:


yeah , me too LOL... :jest:

-I am glad that we ALL were fortunate to get back in one piece, with a pulse.

sometimes people do get all bent out of shape over this... i dont know why they cant just accept the fact that the United States Marine Corps is the best.

I agree.

I agree.

x 2 and its been proven time and time again during every conflict/war. :judge:

sometimes people do get all bent out of shape over this... i dont know why they cant just accept the fact that the United States Marine Corps is the best.
This should have ended the thead! :jest:

Most of those guys are mad because they cant score high enough to join the air force.
99 on the ASVAB with a 127 GT. And I went for artillery. :jest:

Once I was in my Marine Corps greens walking downtown about twenty feet behind an Air Force major. A young airman walked right by the major without saluting but saluted me..........nuff said.

What won Desert Storm... Air Power.. Who most of the time goes in first the AF to drop the bombs.. plus we are smarter we send are officers off to war while the enlisted stay far behind..But every branch in my eyes has there good points and bad.. I just think The Air force can conflict more damage on a country then any other branch.. You dont see any other branch Dropping nukes like we did in Japan... But we are all one team ready to go kick some terrorist butt no if ands or buts about it. And if you dont believe your branch is the best you shouldnt be there you gota have that mentality you cant second guess your brach when the crap hits the fan

What won Desert Storm... Air Power.. Who most of the time goes in first the AF to drop the bombs.. plus we are smarter we send are officers off to war while the enlisted stay far behind..But every branch in my eyes has there good points and bad.. I just think The Air force can conflict more damage on a country then any other branch.. You dont see any other branch Dropping nukes like we did in Japan... But we are all one team ready to go kick some terrorist butt no if ands or buts about it. And if you dont believe your branch is the best you shouldnt be there you gota have that mentality you cant second guess your brach when the crap hits the fan


I knew this was coming sooner or later... :eyes:

Here is my branch pride :usa:

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Ok, so some say the Marines have the longest deployments, as in boots on ground? I dont think so. Standard Active Army deployment for the last few years has been 12months. Some AD units have stayed much longer, and very few any less. Now NG/AR different story, not my lane. I've seen it all, last rotation in Afghanistan I literally stood in line behind a group of Marines, seemingly well disciplined until you listened to them bitching about the shitty food, the long (7mo for them) deployment, the Navy guys on the boats acting like assholes etc..(this was something I never heard of before and it caught me off guard)..I about laughed, but maintained composure and it hit me, the charade all the branches put up to others in some sick way of gaining acceptance or justify their enlistment. Oh well. I look at it like in every branch there is something not desireable, there is that black spot that will haunt them....pick your poison and obviously be proud you have the ability and freedom to serve!
To all those in the Armed Forces and their family members, God Bless you and all you sacrifice!

Pleeease, even Marines can score plenty high on the asvab. Out of highschool I had a 96 on the asvab, and I was talking to the AF Recruiter he was all excited, I just didn't choose them.

About that whole "air power" shit.. you must forget we have our own airwing too. Not to mention, the naval air power ASWELL.

You can't win SHIT without men on the ground. Bomb the hell out of anything, they will stay buried and hidden. You need that Marine or soldier on the ground to go through and clear them.

Don't you think we'd prefer to have you guys fly over and blow the shit up while we hang out on your 5-star bases in Iraq instead of on scattered shitty fobs with no power and shitting in plastic bags? exactly.

Every branch is there for a reason and does their jobs well. It is the US Military, the best just end up Marines

haha ;)

Oh.. yeah right.. the Army NEVER complained about anything :eyes:

Act like we didn't work with them in Fallujah and ar Ramadi. They hid on TQ while only marines stayed outside the wire.

Some marines (with RCT's) stay for a year. The rest of us do 7. We will goto Iraq 3 full times though.

Ok, so some say the Marines have the longest deployments, as in boots on ground? I dont think so. Standard Active Army deployment for the last few years has been 12months. Some AD units have stayed much longer, and very few any less. Now NG/AR different story, not my lane. I've seen it all, last rotation in Afghanistan I literally stood in line behind a group of Marines, seeminly well disciplined until you listened to them bitching about the shitty food, the long (7mo for them) deployment, the Navy guys on the boats acting like assholes etc...I about laughed, but maintained composure and it hit me, the charade all the branches put up to others in some sick way of gaining acceptance or justify their enlistment. Oh well. I look at it like in every branch there is something not desireable, there is that black spot that will haunt them....pick your poison and obviously be proud you have the ability and freedom to serve!
To all those in the Armed Forces and their family members, God Bless you and all you sacrifice!

Oh.. yeah right.. the Army NEVER complained about anything :eyes:

Act like we didn't work with them in Fallujah and ar Ramadi. They hid on TQ while only marines stayed outside the wire.

Some marines (with RCT's) stay for a year. The rest of us do 7. We will goto Iraq 3 full times though.


Ok, get your ego off your keyboard there warrior. If you read what I typed I was not bashing Marines, simply stating I had always looked at the Marines like the few the proud blah blah....but under the lid they are the same warriors as the Soldiers! If you've ever met a Soldier who impressed, the first time that happens you think, Wow their not all a bunch of bleeding vagina's or whatever...first time I heard a Marine bitch it was just as memorable alright. Hopefully the Army goes back to a 6 or 9month rotational plan, the year gone, 4-6months home is getting a little old.

I dont know where you got me "Act like...never said anything about that! And I have no idea what you mean by TQ. But as long as you feel happy thinking only your precious Marine ass was the only forces outside the wire God Bless you too, whatever it takes for you to do your job and serve I dont care, just do it.

TQ is Al Taqquadum. I don't think my "precious marine ass" was the only one outside the wire, but talking about marines bitching about food or deployments or the navy guys doesn't make you a keyboard warrior too? I'm just responding to your comments. I can say that the way some peoples deployments went (even if it was a whole year) is a lot easier than some marines 7months in country (I won't sy all because I know a lot that did the same thing as anyone in another branch that sat behind a desk at a big base) and the same goes vice-a-versa.

You took what I said way too offensively, but I am glad that it is okay for you to say shit about us but as soon as I say anything back you get all butt hurt. Honestly I don't think Marines need to be in country anymore for my own reasons. It is now stabalization operations, which personally I think the army would be better outfitted for. I don't think they are all bleeding vaginas but I like to give you all a hard time to get reactions ;)

Oh - also -- is it possible for someone in the army to goto iraq for 18 mos(or so he says) and come back with "150 grand"


...enlisted..not a contractor or anything..
??

Oh - also -- is it possible for someone in the army to goto iraq for 18 mos(or so he says) and come back with "150 grand"


...enlisted..not a contractor or anything..

yes..

Oh - also -- is it possible for someone in the army to goto iraq for 18 mos(or so he says) and come back with "150 grand"


...enlisted..not a contractor or anything..
??


Yes. There were quite a few specialty jobs that the DOA offered large bonuses for extending beyond the 20yr mark. MOF, the job I am reclassing into had a the largest Non-SpecOps bonus two years ago; UAV (Drone pilot) but you had to be E-7 or E-8, have min. of 19yr 6mo Active Duty, and then volunteer to stay another 6yrs...so if you were in country at the time (I was) you got $80,000 or something. Spec-Ops were at or over $100,000, same grade and time though.
Yes, plenty of Army have stayed in the shit for well over 12 months, but if you ask good ole Uncle, "only when the mission commander deemed it 100% necessary......" what a crock. I too feel Marines should have long been out of Iraq, and Ass-crack-istan and not cuz you need more keyboard warrior time either :) The IEF portion is done, time to go.

Now for the Marines bitching comment, maybe I need to word it like this: I always held Marines in the highest respect, worked with them from time to time etc, but never heard any of the simplistic whining and shit you'd hear from other services...then one day down range, I heard a group of Marines bitching about..... and that shit just shocked me, I realized we're really all the same. There. Not trying to be offensive to any Marine, I've a few close friends that are Marines still, some have left for personal reasons but whatever. I'm too old for this bickering shit, I'd rather have a beer while debating which service this or that, since deep inside we all know its bullshit anyway :)

Well, having spent two years of my life in Iraq gettting shot at, rpg'd, mortar'd, ied'd, etc. I would have to say I'm not so much biased by branch as by job.
I have a ton more respect for someone who has been through similar events than the finace guy chillin' in Kuwait or, the fobbit working the gate for a year.

Well, having spent two years of my life in Iraq gettting shot at, rpg'd, mortor'd, ied'd, etc. I would have to say I'm not so much biased by branch as by job.
I have a ton more respect for someone who has been through similar events than the finace guy chillin' in Kuwait or, the fobbit working the gate for a year.
I was an engineer so I did everything under the sun but I have to tell you some of those front gate gigs arent easy at all. I never did any gate duty (wasn't at any one place long enough) but I know of quite a few front and side gates that got messed up with VBIED's and ground assaults. My easiest missions were convoy security cause that meant I was not breaking my ass fortifying something.

We as marines have the right to bitch.....we do ALL the work and still get shit from the govt. How many times have we had to save the Armys ass?

We as marines have the right to bitch.....we do ALL the work and still get shit from the govt. How many times have we had to save the Armys ass?

Back up your claim with facts then if you feel the Marines have a right to complain...

Either way, I don't really care about who thinks what branch is better. We all made our choice as to which service to go in to. It just bothers me to no end when people spout off absolute indoctrinated propaganda about why their own service is so vastly superior.

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We have the strongest military in the world BECAUSE we have ALL of our branches. If we had only one branch we would not have a strong military.

Well I think no one is better than anyone else. Im in the Air Force if you cant tell and I signed the same fucking dotted line that everyone else did. If you go to Iraq or anywhere else. You a bigger man than me so far b/c I havnt been. DONT FUCKING DIE OVER THERE!!!! There have been to many great folks, some my close friends, that have died. Have a great AIR FORCE day.

DR

Some key points why I think the A/F is better.
-$12,000 Bonous and 2 stripes for 6 yr enlistment
-Score is higher to join on ASVAB
-I been deployed 3 times and not one has gone over 5 months.
-Better food
-Sweeter assignments
-Best Air Force in the world. Marines/Navy/Army have aircraft but nothing to match the Air Force.
-We get treated better
-We have Nukes
-Basic is 6 1/2 weeks long
-I can keep going but I'll stop here :)

im gonna agree with the guy above. Im an acft maintainer and we put army and marines on the plane all the time, and no offense to army guys but the marines always act proffesional and are always polite and ive never heard them complain. I cant tell how many times i see army guys flickin us off and bitching up a storm on the plane. I know almost nobody wants to go to the desert but, come on, theres a time and place for everything, and for a lot of the army guys to be flicking off the guys that are fixing the planes that they are riding on is just disrespectful

We as marines have the right to bitch.....we do ALL the work and still get shit from the govt. How many times have we had to save the Armys ass?


I'm not going to go there, that is about saving another branch's ass...see above, my comment on all branches have that black spot...I didnt mention yours as a Marine, I feel any of those circumstances are better left to those that have been there, done that rather than played out by some junior grade chest pounders.... FWIW, I personally had my ass saved by Joint Service CAS so I have respect for all the services.

As for the "finance guys etc..." I'll never bitch about them sitting behind a desk making sure my family receives its fair pay while I am in or out of the wire, nor the Personnel Service Clerks making sure my records are straight so I could make SFC (E-7) even though many never left the wire...any all Servicemembers that serve, be it abroad or homestation is better than the government welfare collecting lazy fucks that want to enjoy the freedoms we protect and worse, the bitches that sit and talk shit, protest etc for what we do for our Country!

This is one of those posts that can get out of hand quickly if we let it... I dont take any of these posts about superior service serious, I've been around long enough to know better, but its still interesting to stir the shitpot now n then :)

im gonna agree with the guy above. Im an acft maintainer and we put army and marines on the plane all the time, and no offense to army guys but the marines always act proffesional and are always polite and ive never heard them complain. I cant tell how many times i see army guys flickin us off and bitching up a storm on the plane. I know almost nobody wants to go to the desert but, come on, theres a time and place for everything, and for a lot of the army guys to be flicking off the guys that are fixing the planes that they are riding on is just disrespectful


No complaints here on that. I've done my proding of AF peeps for the same thing, I think its just the Soldiers way of blowing off some steam before the shit hits the fan. Some ppl dont know what its like to deploy for a year, on short notice, get home for 3-4 months and go right back, after that, I am sure there are Commanders getting the single digit show of respect. As long as no one takes it personal, doesnt make it right I know...

This is one of those posts that can get out of hand quickly if we let it... I dont take any of these posts about superior service serious, I've been around long enough to know better, but its still interesting to stir the shitpot now n then :)

Hell yea it is. By the way have you guys seen the new Air Force uniform? We are gonna make all the other branches look gay. :jest: check out the link below


http://chairforce.com/easy-chair/humor/power-uniforms.pdf

Hell yea it is. By the way have you guys seen the new Air Force uniform? We are gonna make all the other branches look gay. :jest: check out the link below


http://chairforce.com/easy-chair/humor/power-uniforms.pdf


Awesome, they have red for the Marines and Green for the Army.. Guess the rest will either be yellow or black.

OK for all the Marines out there just remember you are a DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY!!!:judge:

So when send ya'll out there while we sit back and party when we hit ports. :chug:

But i do have to say that we are over there to now. I just happen to be one of the lucky one that deploys with the Army and the Marines. So me and my Military Working Dog join ya'll in the front!!:usa:

Oh ya listen to this!!!

http://www.wakinupwiththewolf.com/timages/page/media/navy_spot.mp3 (http://www.wakinupwiththewolf.com/timages/page/media/navy_spot.mp3)

Bottom line is no matter what service we are in, we are all bound to be replaced soon by contractors / mercenaries, lol...:nutkick:

Bottom line is no matter what service we are in, we are all bound to be replaced soon by contractors / mercenaries, lol...:nutkick:
Dont forget the robots :bang:

Bottom line is no matter what service we are in, we are all bound to be replaced soon by contractors / mercenaries, lol...:nutkick:


KBR to the Rescue, following Blackwater of course ;)

OK for all the Marines out there just remember you are a DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY!!!


you are correct abou this... but we're the Men's Department :jest: :jest: :jest: J/K

as for all the AF guys saying blah blah blah about the ASVAB and whatever else, I hope you dont sweat too much running your little PT test indoors on a track... I scored higher on that dumb test (ASVAB) than the vast majority of people in the Military, I CHOSE to be a Marine for other reasons.

I think everyone should just can the BS about who's better and everything else, its stupid. Do I think every branch has its own little niche? absolutely, or we wouldnt exist. Everyone has their ass on their back about the branch they're in because everyone, in some form, has been taught to be kinda cocky, face it. Whether it took you 13 weeks to learn it, 6 weeks, 9, whatever... its our nature because we are HANDS DOWN, the best military force in the world, and we are because everyone has their place in the puzzle. Just keep all the punches above the belt with the shit talking...

A/F PT test consist of...
-Waist Size
-Mile 1/2 Run (We have an indoor track but never had my PT test inside)
-Sit-ups
-Push-ups

I'm going to go watch my big screen at work now.

[QUOTE=silver-mod-o]you are correct abou this... but we're the Men's Department :jest: :jest: :jest: J/K

as for all the AF guys saying blah blah blah about the ASVAB and whatever else, I hope you dont sweat too much running your little PT test indoors on a track... I scored higher on that dumb test (ASVAB) than the vast majority of people in the Military, I CHOSE to be a Marine for other reasons.

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Haha that mens department shit is hilarious.
Now Im not calling you a liar, but every marine & army guy Ive ever ran into told me the same shit, "I scored so high on the asvab I could have any job I want." :eyes: yea right.
Dont get me wrong I like you guys, especially the army guys since I work on gunships, all the army guys always have been cool with me. I just think its funny everyone in the military is a damn genius.

I agree there too, "everyone" is a genius :jest:... I have been offered many jobs when I get out making 100K + doing a myriad of different things. I dont feel called out or anything... I know there's tons of BS'rs in the military...

A/F PT test consist of...
-Waist Size
-Mile 1/2 Run (We have an indoor track but never had my PT test inside)
-Sit-ups
-Push-ups

I'm going to go watch my big screen at work now.


Once they get away from the elastic tape around the waist they might make some progress.... Trust me, taping is a joke. Seen guys that were 2% Body Fat, ripped like a MF, max the APFT (17-21 scale) and still get the boot!

I agree, BS'rs in the services are rampant, must be something they issue out during recruitment... I dont claim to be a genius, hell I was stuck at E-6 for 8yrs cuz I wasn't smart enough to get out of a dying MOS! Its all good though, once we all retire we'll meet at a VFW where everyone was a 1SGT/Sergeants Major or WTFE....now theres some story telling there!

Once they get away from the elastic tape around the waist they might make some progress.... Trust me, taping is a joke. Seen guys that were 2% Body Fat, ripped like a MF, max the APFT (17-21 scale) and still get the boot!

I agree, BS'rs in the services are rampant, must be something they issue out during recruitment... I dont claim to be a genius, hell I was stuck at E-6 for 8yrs cuz I wasn't smart enough to get out of a dying MOS! Its all good though, once we all retire we'll meet at a VFW where everyone was a 1SGT/Sergeants Major or WTFE....now theres some story telling there!

I couldn't agree with you more. That tape is deff hurting some people. My supervisor maxes out on everything and fails because of his waist... its bullshit.

The waist thing is weird, for us you only get taped if you are above the weight limits (which, some of us are due to muscle not fat.) I am over for my weight and height (6'1 is like 208lbs or something i forgot) but they dont even bother with the tape, as they can see it isn't fat. They only use tape for us when you are over for actual weight issues and it might be close. Odd.
I am not BS'ing about the asvab score though, I can tak ea screen shot of my line scores :-P not the best ever but eh. im not bs'ing.

The waist thing is weird, for us you only get taped if you are above the weight limits (which, some of us are due to muscle not fat.) I am over for my weight and height (6'1 is like 208lbs or something i forgot) but they dont even bother with the tape, as they can see it isn't fat. They only use tape for us when you are over for actual weight issues and it might be close. Odd.
I am not BS'ing about the asvab score though, I can tak ea screen shot of my line scores :-P not the best ever but eh. im not bs'ing.


Army is set up if you dont meet the screening table for your height vs weight, you get taped. Caveat, if you are thought to be out of standards, then a tape can be performed. However, there are always ways around things, just a matter of time before the standards are enforced and tubby has to bounce. I just dont get it, I've known lots of ppl that taped over, and many of them knew the day was coming but did nothing to change.
So we're going to post line scores now? I'll have to figure out how to do that w/o copying the SSN. Hmm... Well, got the attachment showing line scores, clipped from my ERB. Not sure WTF this is supposed to mean other than maybe Army doesn't necessarily = lower scores! And for those that can read the ERB's, no mine has not been updated by me for a couple years, hence the jacked up dwell time, missing tours etc...I havent been worried about updates since I cant get promoted for another 1.5yrs anyway!

A/F PT test consist of...
-Waist Size
-Mile 1/2 Run (We have an indoor track but never had my PT test inside)
-Sit-ups
-Push-ups

I'm going to go watch my big screen at work now.


You ever stop at the JUICE BAR inside the gym??? First time I saw that I was like WTF???? Never seen that before on an AF base.

I'm sooo glad they did away with the bike test...that thing was such bullshit, probably because I could never pass the damn thing. Seems the only ones that were passing were the fat donut eating chain smokers.

BTW, I was at Moody from 2002-2004. :eek2: Now I work with a bunch of ex jarheads and squids. But I always tell 'em AF is the best.;)

There's SOME hope for people who are intensely strong and muscle bound when it comes to the AF test, if you can SOMEHOW get under 25.0 BMI you get max points on waist, but sometimes that still doesn't matter. I've tested people I work near that workout 5-6 times a week, run all the time and barely get any points for waist because they're just stout.... they'll learn someday, until then I can thank fate for making me skinny...

You ever stop at the JUICE BAR inside the gym??? First time I saw that I was like WTF???? Never seen that before on an AF base.

I'm sooo glad they did away with the bike test...that thing was such bullshit, probably because I could never pass the damn thing. Seems the only ones that were passing were the fat donut eating chain smokers.

BTW, I was at Moody from 2002-2004. :eek2: Now I work with a bunch of ex jarheads and squids. But I always tell 'em AF is the best.;)

Never did I don't know why. They spent a shit load of money into that place it damn well better have a Juice bar! :eek2: I thought Moodys Gym is probably one of the best if not the best Gym I've been to base wise. I took the Bike test once and I thought it was dumb but I still passed it. I been at Moody AFB since Nov. 02'.

Some key points why I think the A/F is better.
-$12,000 Bonous and 2 stripes for 6 yr enlistment
The bonus is cool, but free stripes just from contract length does not a leader make.
-Score is higher to join on ASVAB
Depends on the job, as a fire direction controllman, minimum GT score was 105 or something. (mine was 127)
-I been deployed 3 times and not one has gone over 5 months.
I guess this counts as my third deployment, the others being Okinawa and Iraq.
-Better food
Asshat. I went and ate at Kadena every once in a while when I was in Okinawa, those bastards had waiters and shit. :bang:
-Sweeter assignments
Marine Security Guard Battalion, 'nuff said.
-Best Air Force in the world. Marines/Navy/Army have aircraft but nothing to match the Air Force.
I don't know, harriers are just cool. :)
-We get treated better
You get coddled.
-We have Nukes
We had them as well in artillery, we can do just about anything. :)
-Basic is 6 1/2 weeks long
Once again, asshat.
-I can keep going but I'll stop here :)
We have way cooler dress uniforms than you, so there! :P

My gun is (was :( ) bigger than your gun. 155mm FTW.

Craparo,
Hey man I was at Ramadi for a year with the 2nd BCT, 28th ID PA Army Guard. This was supposevly a Marine AO and we were under the 2nd MEF but there was 95% more Army there then Marines...I was out side the wire every day or and sometimes night as an engineer building O.P.s and crap so dont talk like the Marines were the only ones out side the wire.
We all have and had a tough job to do over there.
Haha here is one that`ll get some cages rattled, but I heard a Marine talking about how all Marines are stone cold killers. This same Marine worked as a cashier in the PX/BX.

Craparo,
Hey man I was at Ramadi for a year with the 2nd BCT, 28th ID PA Army Guard. This was supposevly a Marine AO and we were under the 2nd MEF but there was 95% more Army there then Marines...I was out side the wire every day or and sometimes night as an engineer building O.P.s and crap so dont talk like the Marines were the only ones out side the wire.
We all have and had a tough job to do over there.
Haha here is one that`ll get some cages rattled, but I heard a Marine talking about how all Marines are stone cold killers. This same Marine worked as a cashier in the PX/BX.


I do like how the Army, after decades of watching Marines train, adopted the "every Soldier is a warrior" concept...something I myself have done with every new Soldier I got. I was trained that way, and I remember my Godfather, Uncle and others telling me that is what makes Marines the Best, they all are infantrymen first, and specialties later!

Haha here is one that`ll get some cages rattled, but I heard a Marine talking about how all Marines are stone cold killers. This same Marine worked as a cashier in the PX/BX.
Know what gets me rattled? In Okinawa at the PX, they had a picture at the door of a 2 or 3 star general (been a while). It was some lady that had risen to that rank. It had a service record type thing under it to say what she had done during her career. She was a freaking cashier, and a store manager! That's it. I don't remember seeing anything on that paper that strayed even a little from the PX side of things. And she's a general because of that. Sad.

Craparo,
Hey man I was at Ramadi for a year with the 2nd BCT, 28th ID PA Army Guard. This was supposevly a Marine AO and we were under the 2nd MEF but there was 95% more Army there then Marines...I was out side the wire every day or and sometimes night as an engineer building O.P.s and crap so dont talk like the Marines were the only ones out side the wire.
We all have and had a tough job to do over there.
Haha here is one that`ll get some cages rattled, but I heard a Marine talking about how all Marines are stone cold killers. This same Marine worked as a cashier in the PX/BX.

Cages rattled? Allow me to rattle yours.

I bet that cashier would not leave a man on the battlefield....

I too spent the same amount of time in Ramadi, with 9 other Marines and a Navy Corpsman living with,training, going on missions with an Iraqi Bn. We were attached to and supported by your 2 BCT, specifically a National Guard Bn out of the 2 BCT. Ever hear of a football bat? Lot's of really good people but....two particular instances out of many. First, imagine yourself rolling outside the wire with a plt of Iraqi soldiers riding in the back of one of their half-ass armored, open backed bongo trucks, (this is Ramadi remember) it's just you and another Marine with the Iraqis and a couple of gun trucks from a company out of this famed 2 BCT that you are attached to (they are in charge, provide support). You stop, an IED goes off right after you get off the trucks. Next thing you know it is only you and the Iraqis standing there because all the Army guys hauled ass to there HMMWVs and left and you are trying to explain to the Iraqiis why they didn't stay to help cordon off the area and search for the triggerman like you are suppossed to. Next and the real reason I am compelled to respond to this particular post. Handing out voting information one day and we have been in one spot waaay too long. Tell the Army dudes in charge we need to leave, notice how there were people all over the place when we got here and now it is like a ghost town. Next thing I know I get shot in the chest as does an Army SFC standing next to me, he died in my (Marine) arms. After much chaos, Iraqi (not US) soldiers are the ones that throw me and Army SFC in a HMMWV as they (US ARNG 2 BCT) are haulin ass out of there. Not sure but I would like to believe that the cashier (Marine) would have hooked a brother up if you know what I'm saying. In fairness both of these events happened right after the "new" Brigade got there and really didn't have a lot of time on the ground yet :eyes: . I don't have a lot of love for the Army National Guard. Combat is tough and things have a way of going haywire sometimes but cardinal rule that keeps everbody going is knowing that if the shit hits the fan you will not be left behind, dead or alive.

Lot's of amusement all over this thread. AF talking about juice bars and bike PT tests.... Oh wait a minute, it was an AF shock trauma surgeon that saved my life. Aim High all you want Air Force, I love you guys.

Gunny,
Im really sorry to hear your story. Im not going to try to explain the actions of those soldiers because they shouldnt have just hualed ass and left you there.
Seriously though, I can relate to your story, the 2nd BCT left me stranded one a job site as well. And providing two gun trucks is NOT enough security for a job at the heart of the city. I was attached to them as well, I dont have anything to do with them anymore.

Gunny - a lot of what you said hits close to home, and glad you made it through. I can't believe they just took off after an IED went off, wow. Definitely not the way we operate. You also know my opinion, as a Marine, on the second incident. Some of the IA's we worked with were pretty good, and definitely are standing up for themselves, towards the end felt a lot better being out with them than when I first arrived.

GIJosh - I was pretty much just joking around, without having to throw true specific examples. I'm not going to say anything more on this subject, especially after Gunny's post.

CAT3 - Yeah, I am not sure exactly how the army does it but I know that even the pogue ass marines do act motivated and live by the same ethos from bootcamp (Whether or not they would perform on the battlefield that is up in the air..). If they are adapting to the same method, then that is good. Whatever makes the whole military better and less loss of u.s. life.

CAT3 - Yeah, I am not sure exactly how the army does it but I know that even the pogue ass marines do act motivated and live by the same ethos from bootcamp (Whether or not they would perform on the battlefield that is up in the air..). If they are adapting to the same method, then that is good. Whatever makes the whole military better and less loss of u.s. life.


Last sentence is all that matters. In the end we all wear a uniform. Doesn't really matter what color it is.

Guns.... thanks for putting it so damn well...

-CLB-8 EOD .... I've been outside the wire once or twice :eyes: :jest:

this wire yall are speaking of.... is this the wire to stand behind to form a line for the PX?????

the few the proud the........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ycc-3E7K2EY

holy crap i didnt think this would blow up like this. some good stuff guys.
gunny- just wow... i cant put it into words because itll jus come out wrong but thanks for everything.
to whoever said the a/f gets nukes.... so does the navy, even the phantoms were outfitted at one point to carry nukes.

:usa: Prior Service U.S. ARMY :usa: ..... Now KBR :jest:

My best friend from back home who was in the Army just passed this week. When we were at the funeral service in Chicago the soldiers doing his memorial service forgot the rifles for his 21 gun salute. Fucking awsome.

Go Army, beat Navy.

:usa: Prior Service U.S. ARMY :usa: ..... Now KBR :jest:

Awesome quotes in your sig :hail:

:bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: ITS BEEN SAID BEFORE , BUT I THOUGHT I WOULD TELL YOU GUYS AGAIN Marines :bang: :bang: :hail: :hail: :chug:

My best friend from back home who was in the Army just passed this week. When we were at the funeral service in Chicago the soldiers doing his memorial service forgot the rifles for his 21 gun salute. Fucking awsome.

that cant be the whole story..... somthing must have happened so they couldnt bring them.... how could you forget the rifles.

thats like the colorguard forgetting the colors.

that cant be the whole story..... somthing must have happened so they couldnt bring them.... how could you forget the rifles.

thats like the colorguard forgetting the colors.

I knew a guy that was 101st Air Assault and he went on a fire fight training mission and from what he said that officer that was supposed to put in the order for the ammo (no sure on the correct millitary term or how its done) well forgot..... and they all went out and had to ammo waiting....

I knew a guy that was 101st Air Assault and he went on a fire fight training mission and from what he said that officer that was supposed to put in the order for the ammo (no sure on the correct millitary term or how its done) well forgot..... and they all went out and had to ammo waiting....

now i can see that happening....

my unit was out at 29 palms once and we walked a few miles out to the hand granade range. well we got there and we had the hand granades but we didnt have the Blue bodies (fake practice granades)
so we sat out there all day (it was pretty damn hot) waiting for them because they wouldnt let us throw real ones w/o practicing with the fake ones :eyes:
they never did get any and we walked back

now i can see that happening....

my unit was out at 29 palms once and we walked a few miles out to the hand granade range. well we got there and we had the hand granades but we didnt have the Blue bodies (fake practice granades)
so we sat out there all day (it was pretty damn hot) waiting for them because they wouldnt let us throw real ones w/o practicing with the fake ones :eyes:
they never did get any and we walked back

Why not zip tie the pins in or make sure they are in there really good and throw them?

Or just find some good sized rocks that are about the same size and weight :D

Anyone here do 'specialties.' Not playing favorites (my cuz is in the army) but the Navy Seals seem like they haul ass. Hell week sounds ridiculous. I'de love to say i was part of their crew, but I'm not a good swimmer-i wouldn't make it. I plan on going to either the airforce or the marines-both for different reasons. If i do well enough on my ACT i will look at the airforce acadamy. I prolly won't get in because i don't know how to spell academy(?). My dream would be to get my wings. My uncle served in the Marines for 20 some + yrs. We have pictures of him comming off air force 1 w/ pres. Reagon. and some w/ him at camp david w/ reagon. The green berets seem like they're badasses too. What also made me curious was a guy that lives a few towns down. One of my friends mom went to school w/ him and apparantly he became a mercenary. I don't know if that has truth to it but i've heard it from tons of older people (including one other who went to school w/ him). he's a monster (size wise). He also has a huge house and 2 hummers. How the hell do you get to be a mercenary? It sounds risky as hell to me. I don't kno.. I'm only a Sophmore and 16. I just hope to make it to the acadamy and get wings. If not it will be marines. they're pimps. Sorry for the huge post... does anyone have some info to these questions.. I'll be interested to hear.

Make a new thread with those questions stated a little more clearly with some spacing and not just in one big paragraph. You would have to hijack this thread to get them all answered. Once you do that we will start answering. :)

Cages rattled? Allow me to rattle yours.

I bet that cashier would not leave a man on the battlefield....

I too spent the same amount of time in Ramadi, with 9 other Marines and a Navy Corpsman living with,training, going on missions with an Iraqi Bn. We were attached to and supported by your 2 BCT, specifically a National Guard Bn out of the 2 BCT. Ever hear of a football bat? Lot's of really good people but....two particular instances out of many. First, imagine yourself rolling outside the wire with a plt of Iraqi soldiers riding in the back of one of their half-ass armored, open backed bongo trucks, (this is Ramadi remember) it's just you and another Marine with the Iraqis and a couple of gun trucks from a company out of this famed 2 BCT that you are attached to (they are in charge, provide support). You stop, an IED goes off right after you get off the trucks. Next thing you know it is only you and the Iraqis standing there because all the Army guys hauled ass to there HMMWVs and left and you are trying to explain to the Iraqiis why they didn't stay to help cordon off the area and search for the triggerman like you are suppossed to. Next and the real reason I am compelled to respond to this particular post. Handing out voting information one day and we have been in one spot waaay too long. Tell the Army dudes in charge we need to leave, notice how there were people all over the place when we got here and now it is like a ghost town. Next thing I know I get shot in the chest as does an Army SFC standing next to me, he died in my (Marine) arms. After much chaos, Iraqi (not US) soldiers are the ones that throw me and Army SFC in a HMMWV as they (US ARNG 2 BCT) are haulin ass out of there. Not sure but I would like to believe that the cashier (Marine) would have hooked a brother up if you know what I'm saying. In fairness both of these events happened right after the "new" Brigade got there and really didn't have a lot of time on the ground yet :eyes: . I don't have a lot of love for the Army National Guard. Combat is tough and things have a way of going haywire sometimes but cardinal rule that keeps everbody going is knowing that if the shit hits the fan you will not be left behind, dead or alive.

Lot's of amusement all over this thread. AF talking about juice bars and bike PT tests.... Oh wait a minute, it was an AF shock trauma surgeon that saved my life. Aim High all you want Air Force, I love you guys.

Did they evac you to Balad AB/LSA Andaconda? I was there for 4 months, I've been to the hospital many times. They have a really nice hook up there. Good to hear you came out alright. Sniper?

:usa: Prior Service U.S. ARMY :usa: ..... Now KBR :jest:

Damn I'd love to work for KBR. Those guys at Balad were cool as shit. They only got paid about $60,000 more than me doing the same job! :eek2:

I was with the 22nd MEU in Afghan and before we left one of the army generals told us that the marines of BLT 1/6 and the 22nd MEU did more in afgahn in 4 months than the army did in three years. When I was in kandahar all that the army did was wonder around the base in PT gear every where they went and play volleyball. When the army went out past the wire they went on 2 to 4 day ops and then came back to kandahar for R & R for a few weeks. When the marines went out we stayed in the mountains for 70 days straight hunting down the taliban and al Queada before coming back to the rear. I guess that is why we were so succsesful over there. OORAH!!!! FIRST TO FIGHT US MARINES NOT THE A.R.M.Y (AINT. REAL. MARINES. YET. )

I was with the 22nd MEU in Afghan and before we left one of the army generals told us that the marines of BLT 1/6 and the 22nd MEU did more in afgahn in 4 months than the army did in three years. When I was in kandahar all that the army did was wonder around the base in PT gear every where they went and play volleyball. When the army went out past the wire they went on 2 to 4 day ops and then came back to kandahar for R & R for a few weeks. When the marines went out we stayed in the mountains for 70 days straight hunting down the taliban and al Queada before coming back to the rear. I guess that is why we were so succsesful over there. OORAH!!!! FIRST TO FIGHT US MARINES NOT THE A.R.M.Y (AINT. REAL. MARINES. YET. )


Holy shit stop the generalized bullshit train. I was there with the 22MEU.
1) the fucknozzles walking around all day long as you say were either A. Nat'l Guard/Res. or B. Nightshift REMF. And trust me I seen plenty of Marines walking around doing nothing as well :)

2) True enough you all did more in 4months then the guys before you in 3yrs...under the Army's guidance on where the hell to go and what to do. No offense but it wasn't your Branch in Charge (might have been better for ALL if were though).

3) The large majority of the guys you seen roll out for 3-4day missions and come back for "R&R", well that was there job. There were some that rolled out from Day 1 and didnt come back to KAF until their flight out for actual R&R, then they went back out and stayed until day 370+, yeah, over a fucking year.

I knew it would come to this, some petty bullshit where someone feels the need to bash the others branch to make them feel confident in their own choice. WTFE!

Why not zip tie the pins in or make sure they are in there really good and throw them?

Or just find some good sized rocks that are about the same size and weight :D


Funny you mention this..... probably cuz about 10yrs ago something similar happened that cost a LTC his lower leg, and an E-7 Ranger part of his voice box and movement in his Shoulder. Anyone that knows now Col Myles (was 2d Brigade, 25th ID Commander most recently, but during this incident he was with 101st Airborne Division) should know about that. A totally fucked up incident that should have never happened.

Holy shit stop the generalized bullshit train. I was there with the 22MEU.
1) the fucknozzles walking around all day long as you say were either A. Nat'l Guard/Res. or B. Nightshift REMF. And trust me I seen plenty of Marines walking around doing nothing as well

2) True enough you all did more in 4months then the guys before you in 3yrs...under the Army's guidance on where the hell to go and what to do. No offense but it wasn't your Branch in Charge (might have been better for ALL if were though).

3) The large majority of the guys you seen roll out for 3-4day missions and come back for "R&R", well that was there job. There were some that rolled out from Day 1 and didnt come back to KAF until their flight out for actual R&R, then they went back out and stayed until day 370+, yeah, over a fucking year.

I knew it would come to this, some petty bullshit where someone feels the need to bash the others branch to make them feel confident in their own choice. WTFE!

WOW!!!! it sounds like someone is getting a little butthurt

Since it seems the best way to show pride in your branch by bashing others...
How about the Marine that shot the 12y/o boy who was out hunting for food to feed his family vicinity Marfa, TX around March 1997?

Or the Marines real branch, the Navy, sinking a tourism boat in Hawaii 3yrs ago while giving some Japanese dignitaries a pleasure ride in a sub?

Sorry cant think of anything for the AF guys....

But lastly, the best, my bash on my Branch, during Desert Storm when an Army Aviation Commander took the lead on a "routine" mission, under orders that he not personally engage, ended up hot dogging the lead and fired his 25mm into a HMMWV and a M113, which some of my fellow GSR guys occupied and later died in or around from the action of the pilot!

Moral of the story, no Branch is without a blackeye, and I am sure there is way more dirt going on with the Marines (not even a real Branch is it?) Navy, AF, Army, even C.G. than what all of us together could know. But is this the best way to show our pride and loyalty? Not sure of other services, but I look over my igh shoulder everyday and see the one thing that makes all us equal....the American Flag!

WOW!!!! it sounds like someone is getting a little butthurt


Not at all, just have little love for ppl talking out the side of their cockholster, especially when the facts are twisted to make it more one sided than it is!

Not at all, just have little love for ppl talking out the side of their cockholster, especially when the facts are twisted to make it more one sided than it is!

that's really sweet

that's sweet


You have a good night there Marine.

you too soldier

Next time at least have the sense and respect to cap the S in Soldier! Thanks. And I replied to your cam tune request. Late.

Thanks. And I replied to your cam tune request. Late

I dont understand, what do you mean ?

nevermind

Did they evac you to Balad AB/LSA Andaconda? I was there for 4 months, I've been to the hospital many times. They have a really nice hook up there. Good to hear you came out alright. Sniper?

Ramadi has a level 2 facility, stayed there for a day then straight to Al Asad and on to Germany. Flights all lined up I guess, not like I was in any condition to know what was going on. Yes, sniper. QRF came out but of course he was long gone.

I was with the 22nd MEU in Afghan and before we left one of the army generals told us that the marines of BLT 1/6 and the 22nd MEU did more in afgahn in 4 months than the army did in three years. When I was in kandahar all that the army did was wonder around the base in PT gear every where they went and play volleyball. When the army went out past the wire they went on 2 to 4 day ops and then came back to kandahar for R & R for a few weeks. When the marines went out we stayed in the mountains for 70 days straight hunting down the taliban and al Queada before coming back to the rear. I guess that is why we were so succsesful over there. OORAH!!!! FIRST TO FIGHT US MARINES NOT THE A.R.M.Y (AINT. REAL. MARINES. YET. )

Riiight. Funny, this army guy spent most of his time in Afghanistan in the south east mountains in Logar province. With actual enemy there. The only combat units that are based out of Kandahar are SF and Rangers. And you have no clue what they do. In fact, you have no clue about much anything. First to fight? When I made it to baghdad in early 2003, I don't recall seeing any marines. They did relieve my unit in Fallujah, though. And then proceeded to give the town back to the terrorists. Ouch.

this thread has turned into a cluster fuck...

-a little friendly joke about another branch of service is one thing but dont just be a dick for no reason... some of the people here need to un-bunch their f'n panties...

this thread has turned into a cluster fuck...

-a little friendly joke about another branch of service is one thing but dont just be a dick for no reason... some of the people here need to un-bunch their f'n panties...


No shit huh!

Riiight. Funny, this army guy spent most of his time in Afghanistan in the south east mountains in Logar province. With actual enemy there. The only combat units that are based out of Kandahar are SF and Rangers. And you have no clue what they do. In fact, you have no clue about much anything. First to fight? When I made it to baghdad in early 2003, I don't recall seeing any marines. They did relieve my unit in Fallujah, though. And then proceeded to give the town back to the terrorists. Ouch.


yeah we gave fallujah back to the terrorists :eyes:

obviously you don't have a clue about anything.

yeah we gave fallujah back to the terrorists :eyes:

obviously you don't have a clue about anything.

Not marines in general. Your commander did when he took over and tried the friendly approach. That is no opinion, it's a fact. Otherwise, November 2004 to "take back" Fallujah would have never had to happen. And for the record, I think marines do a great job. Just had to put your very young hooah above who was talking out of his 4th point of contact in his place.

air force sure does have the highest percentage of good looking chicks. i dont think anybody can argue with that. as far as branch pride, i'm all for it, oorah. i believe it is a neccesity to have. it all boils down to unit cohesion and espirit de corps. i'm gonna think my squad is better than your squad, we both think our platoon is better than the other platoon, etc. all the way up to a specific branch. imagine what would happen if some foreign military person came in this thread and said, "fuck all you guys, my countries army/navy/whatever is better. we'd all be in on that guy. somebody like import slayer has to be the way he is. he's tasked with teaching civilians how to be Marines. the pride he carries in this post, shows on his face everyday he steps in front of his recruits. if he's not a 100% gung ho Marine, the recruits will see it. if he is gung ho, his recruits will see that too. the pride that gets instilled in those recruits today, may just save their LIFE, or the life of a fellow servicemember, later on down the road. personally, i'd expect to see the same unconditional branch pride from any trainer of recruits, be they drill instructors, drill sergeants, tech instructors, or whatever they are called. that's my take on branch pride.

You are on point there slowpoke....

11 bravo -yeah that was operation "phantom fury"... i thought something along the lines of the 82nd had fallujah and lost control of it so they had to get marines to take the city back over (who better than uncle sams bullet sandbags). but im not 100% on the unwinding of events i kind of forgot now.

as far as i know, import slayer is a DI. im surprised that is all he said ;)

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afaik AF chicks are the best, all around :)

Or just find some good sized rocks that are about the same size and weight

thats what we were practicing with lol
but someone decided that wasnt good enough.

I have worked with other branches of the service and have had nothing good to say about any of them. So I keep my mouth shut. Every one knows who the best of the best are. I see the young American public probobly a little better than the average military serviceman. The American public wants the Marine Corps. The Army has 5x more money, equipment and bodies to get the job done with, but the Marines do it better every time. We are the dogs who have been keeping the wolves away from Americas doorstep for over 200 years. I asked the Sgt Maj Estrada, just the other day, why the Marine Corps, who is an assault force, still in Iraq with the Army. He replied that senior Army advisors told Donald Rumsfeld that the Army cannot do their job without the Marines. The Army is supposed to be the sustaining force after the assualt force blows down the god damn door. whhhoooooaahhh :devil:

I have worked with other branches of the service and have had nothing good to say about any of them. So I keep my mouth shut. Every one knows who the best of the best are. I see the young American public probobly a little better than the average military serviceman. The American public wants the Marine Corps. The Army has 5x more money, equipment and bodies to get the job done with, but the Marines do it better every time. We are the dogs who have been keeping the wolves away from Americas doorstep for over 200 years. I asked the Sgt Maj Estrada, just the other day, why the Marine Corps, who is an assault force, still in Iraq with the Army. He replied that senior Army advisors told Donald Rumsfeld that the Army cannot do their job without the Marines. The Army is supposed to be the sustaining force after the assualt force blows down the god damn door. whhhoooooaahhh :devil:


You should have followed your rules a litte better and not typed it either :engarde: I salute your enthusiasm though, and your belief in your superiors!

who here is Infantry? Just curious

who here is Infantry? Just curious

Do a search in this forum, its been covered at least once and IIRC there were a couple pages....

as far as i know, import slayer is a DI. im surprised that is all he said ;)

I am an ex-drill sgt. The difference is that some of us don't get swollen heads because of the hat, and others do. Commonly referred to as the small penis syndrome.

I have worked with other branches of the service and have had nothing good to say about any of them. So I keep my mouth shut. Every one knows who the best of the best are. I see the young American public probobly a little better than the average military serviceman. The American public wants the Marine Corps. The Army has 5x more money, equipment and bodies to get the job done with, but the Marines do it better every time. We are the dogs who have been keeping the wolves away from Americas doorstep for over 200 years. I asked the Sgt Maj Estrada, just the other day, why the Marine Corps, who is an assault force, still in Iraq with the Army. He replied that senior Army advisors told Donald Rumsfeld that the Army cannot do their job without the Marines. The Army is supposed to be the sustaining force after the assualt force blows down the god damn door. whhhoooooaahhh :devil:

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11 bravo -yeah that was operation "phantom fury"... i thought something along the lines of the 82nd had fallujah and lost control of it so they had to get marines to take the city back over (who better than uncle sams bullet sandbags). but im not 100% on the unwinding of events i kind of forgot now.

No, we had it under control. There were no violence or attacks on us after we killed a few hundred of them. In Mar-April 2004, after we finished up our year, the marines finally come to the show and take over, and their commander decides to take the nice guy approach with a town that supported Hussain. Not too smart. I would watch it on TV and get pissed off watching them unravel what we fought to accomplish. They had gotten to the point to where they wouldn't even go on foot patrols. We had some kind of element on the sidewalks 24 hours a day. Again, that is a fact now in the history books being taught in the acadamy, not an opinion.

who here is Infantry? Just curious


0331 !!!

No, we had it under control. There were no violence or attacks on us after we killed a few hundred of them. In Mar-April 2004, after we finished up our year, the marines finally come to the show and take over, and their commander decides to take the nice guy approach with a town that supported Hussain. Not too smart. I would watch it on TV and get pissed off watching them unravel what we fought to accomplish. They had gotten to the point to where they wouldn't even go on foot patrols. We had some kind of element on the sidewalks 24 hours a day. Again, that is a fact now in the history books being taught in the acadamy, not an opinion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallujah

i remember seeing it on TV too a bunch of shit about them not having control of the city, etc. It was like 4 marine infantry battalions and 2 army mech'd cavalry or something to retake the city. why would they launch an attack that size on a "perfectly safe city"

What won Desert Storm... Air Power.. Who most of the time goes in first the AF to drop the bombs.. plus we are smarter we send are officers off to war while the enlisted stay far behind..But every branch in my eyes has there good points and bad.. I just think The Air force can conflict more damage on a country then any other branch.. You dont see any other branch Dropping nukes like we did in Japan... But we are all one team ready to go kick some terrorist butt no if ands or buts about it. And if you dont believe your branch is the best you shouldnt be there you gota have that mentality you cant second guess your brach when the crap hits the fan
ArticZ, lettme start off by say i too am Air Force, so nothing im saying isn't out of line only a mere case of putting things into perspective. Each branch plays a crucial role in todays world. Yes the bombs dropped on japan were made possible via Air Power, notic i didn't say Air Force, because at the time 1945 we were the Army-Air Force, as you probably know it wasn't untill 1947 that the Air Force was deemed another branch of the service. With wars like the ones in Iraq and Afghanistan (sp?) there are much more involved procedures that need to be takin, (you can't just go in the and bomb the shit out of a country, pack up and be home before the game is on) thats the biggest problem America has with these wars now. Everyone hates Bush now, but 3 years ago in Mar 03 when he said he wanted to go back to the middle east and set things right and that it may take a while everyone was gung ho (still in the backs of their minds expecting a hollywood ending with no casualties) Our enemys are cowards they hide in schools Masques etc. We can't just go in there and drop huge air artillery (sp) on where we know a couple of terrorists are hiding ,ya know?? Gotta remember all the innocent people and thats where the Army/Marines come in (they do their role) as what i like to refer to as "pin-point punishers" They go in to the buildings, walk the streets talk to the people and find out where exactly the bad guys are, whereas bombs bing drop'll find the bad guys no doubt it'll also find the innocent and such....sorry im gettin off my soap box now.... :)

What I don't understand is that everyone joined the branch they selected for a certain reason. Some for the excitement of serving their country being on the frontline ensuring our freedoms defense. Others join for the chance of using todays top notch technology. Some choose one branch over the other for 4 years of excitement then to have money for college. I'm in the AF as an F-15 crewchief. I go where my jet goes. I'll never be on the frontline. I have volunteered for convoy details because I do feel a greater calling. Do I wish I had a gun and could kill and enemy with my thumb and forefinger....no, but that is me. My brother was a Marine for 7 years and I respected what they did, I myself could not live that life...not because I'm a pussy or a tree hugger (I'm 6'7" and 280lbs and could kick the shit out of all of you) but I feel that we were all made for a reason. I am one kick ass mechanic...if its broke I can fix it and get it airborn. Some of you are shit hot with a gun, in the thick of it. Some of you are kick ass tank drivers and on the spot artillary. The bottom dollar is we could not get done today without the AF, Marines, Navy and Army (and yes the coast guard). I'm not saying the AF is better, I have seen the good and bad with them all. I wish the AF had the discipline of the marines or that the marines had the better lifestyle of the AF or that the Marines had the technolgy of the army or that the navy had more shore jobs etc. I joined because I wanted to work on jets. My brother joined because he wanted to kill people. We all joined for reason...remember that when you start posting on threads like this. I respect you all. My job may not be as hard as yours but please don't respect me as I won't you.

I am an ex-drill sgt. The difference is that some of us don't get swollen heads because of the hat, and others do. Commonly referred to as the small penis syndrome.

so you didn't instill in your recruits that they were the best? you didn't pump up their chests, even a little bit?

so you didn't instill in your recruits that they were the best? you didn't pump up their chests, even a little bit

sure he didn't his recruits knew they were not the best

I have worked with other branches of the service and have had nothing good to say about any of them. So I keep my mouth shut. Every one knows who the best of the best are. I see the young American public probobly a little better than the average military serviceman. The American public wants the Marine Corps. The Army has 5x more money, equipment and bodies to get the job done with, but the Marines do it better every time. We are the dogs who have been keeping the wolves away from Americas doorstep for over 200 years. I asked the Sgt Maj Estrada, just the other day, why the Marine Corps, who is an assault force, still in Iraq with the Army. He replied that senior Army advisors told Donald Rumsfeld that the Army cannot do their job without the Marines. The Army is supposed to be the sustaining force after the assualt force blows down the god damn door. whhhoooooaahhh


could not have said it better myself

Rob M. Good eye pointing out the Army-Air Force in that post.
Other than a couple die-harders wanting to see who can type the best line of STFU Syrup, looks like this thread went exactly where it needed too......in circles, where I would like to believe deep down we all know WE are the BEST, the Armed Forces of the United States of America! Even 11Bravo, PI Hat, Slowpoke, import slayer etc...

How about a twist? What we like about other services, I'll start:

Navy: They oversee the best annex, MARINES! They have some nice shore duty assignment locations (always by water....FWIW I'm stuck in the middle of the Arizona desert for now!). Navy Intel can't be beat, and this is coming from someone thats worked in Intel for a over a decade. My Father was in the Navy in WWII. SEALS.

MARINES: Seemingly superior level of discipline. Initial Entry Force, which is normally where the meat-n-potatoe of getting shit settled is, show of force after knocking the door down. Awesome recruiting commercials, love the dragon vs. Marine! Shorter deployments with more rotations. Marine Recon and Expeditionary Forces (sorry if I fucked this one up, but thats what I am used to them being called IIRC).

Air Force: Quality of Life not seen with by any Marine or Soldier during deployment, and probably not in Garrison either. The "substandard living pay" while deployed to the same shitholes as the Marines and Soldiers, yet they neither of them get paid for living there :( Of course the Air Superiority...keep em flying guys. Short deployments. TACP's and PJ's.

Coast Guard: Where else can you get so much action while not leaving home for motnhs on end? The only service to be fully integrated into the civil sector, helping out SAR missions, drug interdiction etc. Search And Resuce.

Rob M. Good eye pointing out the Army-Air Force in that post.
Other than a couple die-harders wanting to see who can type the best line of STFU Syrup, looks like this thread went exactly where it needed too......in circles, where I would like to believe deep down we all know WE are the BEST, the Armed Forces of the United States of America! Even 11Bravo, PI Hat, Slowpoke, import slayer etc...

How about a twist? What we like about other services, I'll start:

Navy: They oversee the best annex, MARINES! They have some nice shore duty assignment locations (always by water....FWIW I'm stuck in the middle of the Arizona desert for now!). Navy Intel can't be beat, and this is coming from someone thats worked in Intel for a over a decade. My Father was in the Navy in WWII. SEALS.

MARINES: Seemingly superior level of discipline. Initial Entry Force, which is normally where the meat-n-potatoe of getting shit settled is, show of force after knocking the door down. Awesome recruiting commercials, love the dragon vs. Marine! Shorter deployments with more rotations. Marine Recon and Expeditionary Forces (sorry if I fucked this one up, but thats what I am used to them being called IIRC).

Air Force: Quality of Life not seen with by any Marine or Soldier during deployment, and probably not in Garrison either. The "substandard living pay" while deployed to the same shitholes as the Marines and Soldiers, yet they neither of them get paid for living there Of course the Air Superiority...keep em flying guys. Short deployments. TACP's and PJ's.

Coast Guard: Where else can you get so much action while not leaving home for motnhs on end? The only service to be fully integrated into the civil sector, helping out SAR missions, drug interdiction etc. Search And Resuce.__________________



VERY good point CAT3

Rob M. Good eye pointing out the Army-Air Force in that post.
Other than a couple die-harders wanting to see who can type the best line of STFU Syrup, looks like this thread went exactly where it needed too......in circles, where I would like to believe deep down we all know WE are the BEST, the Armed Forces of the United States of America! Even 11Bravo, PI Hat, Slowpoke, import slayer etc...

How about a twist? What we like about other services, I'll start:

Navy: They oversee the best annex, MARINES! They have some nice shore duty assignment locations (always by water....FWIW I'm stuck in the middle of the Arizona desert for now!). Navy Intel can't be beat, and this is coming from someone thats worked in Intel for a over a decade. My Father was in the Navy in WWII. SEALS.

MARINES: Seemingly superior level of discipline. Initial Entry Force, which is normally where the meat-n-potatoe of getting shit settled is, show of force after knocking the door down. Awesome recruiting commercials, love the dragon vs. Marine! Shorter deployments with more rotations. Marine Recon and Expeditionary Forces (sorry if I fucked this one up, but thats what I am used to them being called IIRC).

Air Force: Quality of Life not seen with by any Marine or Soldier during deployment, and probably not in Garrison either. The "substandard living pay" while deployed to the same shitholes as the Marines and Soldiers, yet they neither of them get paid for living there :( Of course the Air Superiority...keep em flying guys. Short deployments. TACP's and PJ's.

Coast Guard: Where else can you get so much action while not leaving home for motnhs on end? The only service to be fully integrated into the civil sector, helping out SAR missions, drug interdiction etc. Search And Resuce.


niiice :)

i know you are in the army, but write one up about them too

niiice :)

i know you are in the army, but write one up about them too


I think it would be as tainted as everyone else BP post, but I'll give this out...

Army: Army Bands are top notch, not joking either. Flexibility in assignments (cant comment on other services). We deploy EVERYWHERE (this is of course a + and - depending on individual). We deploy to sustain the fight, but also provide Initial Entry Forces (Sustainment does get rather shitty though). We have a broad spectrum of forces, Soldiers serving with Waterborne Op's, Airborne, Spec Ops, Aviation assets, and The world Premier Infantry (of course Marines have this area covered as well, but last time I checked US Army Infantry is repsonsible for training other countries Soldiers). We have the best promotion system, well easiest but thats a double edged sword there...too esy for dirtbags to make rank. All in all, the Army to me is the jack of all trades and yet Master of quite a few.

who here is Infantry? Just curious
Does Ex-Infantry count? Army is the best branch... it is why we have 80% of the mission in Iraq, it is why an Army General is the MNF-I commander.. it is why an Army General is the MNC-I Commander.... we fight the war, Navy and Airforce are supporting organizations to the Army's main effort. Marines are ok in my book... have kicked in doors with em. I love Jarheads. But in the end... they are still just Navy.

Does Ex-Infantry count? Army is the best branch... it is why we have 80% of the mission in Iraq, it is why an Army General is the MNF-I commander.. it is why an Army General is the MNC-I Commander.... we fight the war, Navy and Airforce are supporting organizations to the Army's main effort. Marines are ok in my book... have kicked in doors with em. I love Jarheads. But in the end... they are still just Navy

the mens department of the navy

Some people will just never understand. We all talk a little smack, but some of us can back it up. Deep down inside we all just want to serve our country and be MARINES!!! :hail:

Some people will just never understand. We all talk a little smack, but some of us can back it up. Deep down inside we all just want to serve our country and be MARINES!!! :hail:
I guess delusions of grandeur can be added to the list of training regimen marine recruits go through? :D :chug: :jest:

Come on, Im just playen. Everyone knows the Air Force is the best. I love the Air Force....I mean...I plan on getting out of the Marine Corps and joining the Air Force. :gay:

:rotflmao:

Come on, Im just playen. Everyone knows the Air Force is the best. I love the Air Force....I mean...I plan on getting out of the Marine Corps and joining the Air Force. :gay:
I kid I kid, don't get your campaign hat wedged too far into your rectum :devil:

I love the shittalking in here and most anywhere. One thing that pisses me off, not using caps when typing about other services (even more so when someone types all l.c. to incude their own branch!). PI HAT capped Air Force, yet Malicious typed "marine recruits", WTF? Thats either some sublimal form of shit talking e.g. disrespect, or ignorance?
*disclaimer: just using the two mentioned above as reference since they were the last couple posters, not directly aimed at any 1 person, but several in this forum. Yes I realize its a personal pet peeve, but it is a matter of respect.

Rant Off.

Take it as you will, I honestly don't care if you think it's disrespect or not. In the same sentence, had it been air force or army or navy I doubt I would have capped it either. Was just how I was typing at the time. Let's find something silly to comment about next time :P

Malicious, I do find it disrespectful, at the service level, nothing personal of course, but would definately expect more out the Air Force than that, I'd actually understand if it were Soldiers and Marines doing, since we score so much lower on ASVAP and all! Something silly to comment on? Nothing silly, thanks though.

Malicious, I do find it disrespectful, at the service level, nothing personal of course, but would definately expect more out the Air Force than that, I'd actually understand if it were Soldiers and Marines doing, since we score so much lower on ASVAP and all! Something silly to comment on? Nothing silly, thanks though.
Have I ever said anything about a Marine or a Soldier scoring lower on a test than anyone else? No I haven't so find someone else to have a pity party with because I'm not attending. I have just as much or more respect for the other branches than just about anyone else. I've grown up around the military my entire life and have met people from all branches, and I have no reason to throw disrespect around to them. I'm sorry that a stray capital letter, or lack thereof offended you. I didn't even realize I did it until someone commented on it. :eyes:

LMFAO...he said Cockholster!!!

LMFAO...he said Cockholster!!!

What ya do in Lakenheath? Know a few people there....

Have I ever said anything about a Marine or a Soldier scoring lower on a test than anyone else? No I haven't so find someone else to have a pity party with because I'm not attending. I have just as much or more respect for the other branches than just about anyone else. I've grown up around the military my entire life and have met people from all branches, and I have no reason to throw disrespect around to them. I'm sorry that a stray capital letter, or lack thereof offended you. I didn't even realize I did it until someone commented on it. :eyes:


Looks like someone hasnt read through the pages of shit talking here! An Air Force member commented on their scores being higher, so was just throwing that out there. Actually, looking back, a few of them have posted that. I dont see too many scores posted up though, guess it wasn't worth talking about. I posted my line scores, fuck it. Pity Party and not attending, I like that one, and nope haven't heard it before. Cockholster is old school, like mangina and others.

The cap thing, I was taught it was a sign of disrespect when using all l.c., thats all.

Cockholster is old school, like mangina and others.

Volun-told is one of my favorites.

Rectal-octal-itus is another. Nerves between ass and eyes get jacked up and the result is a shitty outlook on life................

Looks like someone hasnt read through the pages of shit talking here! An Air Force member commented on their scores being higher, so was just throwing that out there. Actually, looking back, a few of them have posted that. I dont see too many scores posted up though, guess it wasn't worth talking about. I posted my line scores, fuck it. Pity Party and not attending, I like that one, and nope haven't heard it before. Cockholster is old school, like mangina and others.

The cap thing, I was taught it was a sign of disrespect when using all l.c., thats all.

Well I apologizing for offending you by mistyping something that I wasn't even really thinking about. I know far dumber people in the AF(scores wise) than anyone I've ever met in the Marines, so can't play that card with me. Different branches for different people. I appreciate the fact people join the Marines to go actually fight because I'm not the 'get shot at while deployed' type of guy.

Well I apologizing for offending you by mistyping something that I wasn't even really thinking about. I know far dumber people in the AF(scores wise) than anyone I've ever met in the Marines, so can't play that card with me. Different branches for different people. I appreciate the fact people join the Marines to go actually fight because I'm not the 'get shot at while deployed' type of guy.


this guy is not so bad after all. I definitly agree with you :)

Gunny, I've heard the Recto one before, actually IIRC my Drill was yelling at me when I was like 17 or something...not sure its been a while. But, when I read it out loud, I heard a Marine Gunny's voice spit-yelling it and about spit A&W Root Beer on the puter! LMAO.

Malicious, I understand you didnt mean it, really, I was just wanting everyone to understand my take on it, sorry for coming off like a dick. I'm not a Marine, but I am bout deploying and taking one for the home team if needed...I dont know anyone thats actually wanted to get shot at, but have known just as many who say fuck it lets roll as I have FUCK THAT SHIT. If you serve, you understand your time may come, in some fashion or another, to sacrifice for other American's...whether you wanted to deploy to get shot at, or to make sure those of us that do get shot at get paid on time, have our records straight, fix our trucks/planes/jets/rotary wings/boats/subs etc...your still far better than the dodger out fucking scamming people on the phone, thru email, stalking some service members family, or getting DUI's cuz of the freedoms we provide them. Bout time the generally society wakes the fuck up and realizes what WE in the Forces go through and sacrifice for their freedoms, more so the ones so often abused and rarely recognized.

Charlie

lets just all agree to hate every branch :)

not. group hug everyone, just watch the navy guys. ;)

I've read through this entire post tonight and had to laugh at a lot of the generalizations. Some good/bad points made by just about everyone. Personally, I have seen the good/bad with all the branches as well, but still have respect for them for what they do. We all get the job done, quite well I might add.

I'm one of the contractors that most of the Military guys despise on deployments. Most people think I'm overpaid and I'm only here for a paycheck. They couldn't be more wrong. I am prior service, but once I got out I realized my calling wasn't over and I wanted to keep supporting the Military. I'm on my 2nd tour in Afghanistan, this one starting in March of 2005. I love my job and know that what I do makes a difference. I run 85+ servers on 3 networks at the HQ and make sure that the comms are good so shit can get done. Since the end of May I've been doing this on my own when the other guy decided to go home without a notice. (He's the reason many of us get the bad rep) I bust my ass an average of 90-100 hours a week if not more. I take as much pride in what I do as you guys that are still wearing the uniform. I salute every fallen brother of mine that rolls by in the Humvee with a flag drapped over his coffin. There's not a day go by that I don't pray for the safe return of my brothers and sisters fighting the front lines. I respect anyone wearing the uniform, whether it's past or present. You've all got my support... litterally and physically.

I'm sure you all have seen this before but still I find it funny and somewhat true....


Oaths of Enlistment
All persons, upon entering the Military Service and upon reenlistment are required to take the Oath of Enlistment. At one time the Oath of Enlistment was the same for all services. Due to changes in both society and the differing Military Branches, the Oath has undergone marked change and has been specifically tailored to each branch of the Military and their specific function. Here are the latest versions of the Oath of Enlistment as recently released by the Joint Chief's of Staff:

US AIR FORCE OATH OF ENLISTMENT
I, (State your name), swear to sign away 4 years of my life to the UNITED STATES AIR FORCE because I know I couldn't hack it in the Army, because the Marines frighten me and I am afraid of water over waist deep. I swear to sit behind a desk. I also swear not to do any form of real exercise, but promise to defend our bike-riding test as a valid form of exercise. I promise to walk around calling everyone by their first name because I find it amusing to annoy the other services. I will have a better quality of life than those around me and will, at all times, be sure to make them aware of that fact. After completion of "Basic Training" I will be a lean, mean, donut-eating, lazy-boy sitting, civilian-wearing-blue-clothes, Chair borne Ranger. I will believe I am superior to all others and will make an effort to clean the knife before stabbing the next person in the back. I will annoy those around me, and will go home early every day. So Help Me God!



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US ARMY OATH OF ENLISTMENT
I, Rambo, swear to sign away 4 years of my mediocre life to the UNITED STATES ARMY because I couldn't score high enough on the ASVAB to get into the Air Force, I'm not tough enough for the Marines, and the Navy won't take me because I can't swim. I will wear camouflage every day and tuck my trousers into my boots because I can't figure out how to use blousing straps. I promise to wear my uniform 24 hours a day even when I have a date. I will continue to tell myself that I am a fierce killing machine because my Drill Sergeant told me I am, despite the fact that the only action I will see is a Court Martial for sexual harassment. I acknowledge the fact that I will make E-8 in my first year of service, and vow to maintain that it is because I scored perfect on my PT test. After completion of my Sexual.....er....I mean "Basic Training," I will attend a different Army school every other month and return knowing less than I did when I left. On my first trip home after Boot Camp I will walk around like I am cool and propose to my 9th grade sweetheart. I will make my wife stay home because if I let her out she might leave me for a better-looking Air Force guy. Should she leave me twelve times I will continue to take her back. While at work, I will maintain a look of knowledge while getting absolutely nothing accomplished. I will arrive to work every day at 1000 hours because of morning PT and leave everyday at 1300 to report back to "COMPANY." I understand that I will undergo no training whatsoever that will help me get a job upon separation, and will end up working construction with my friends from high school. I will brag to everyone about the Army giving me $30,000 for college, but will be unable to use it because I can't pass a placement exam. So Help Me God!



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US NAVY OATH OF ENLISTMENT
I, Top Gun, in lieu of going to prison, swear to sign away 4 years of my life to the UNITED STATES NAVY, because I want to hang out with Marines without actually having to BE one of them, because I thought the Air Force was too "corporate," because I didn't want to actually live in dirt like the Army, and because I thought, "Hey, I like to swim...why not?" I promise to wear clothes that went out of style in 1976 and to have my name stenciled on the butt of every pair of pants own. I understand that I will be mistaken for the Good Humor Man during summer and for Nazi Waffen SS during the winter. I will strive to use a different language than the rest of the English speaking world, using words like "deck, bulkhead, cover, geedunk, scuttlebutt, scuttle and head," when I really mean "floor, wall, hat, candy, water fountain, hole in wall and toilet." I will take great pride in the fact that all Navy acronyms, rank, and insignia, and everything else for that matter, are completely different from the other services and make absolutely no sense whatsoever. I will muster, whatever that is, at 0700 hours every morning unless I am buddy-buddy with the Chief, in which case I will show up around 0930 hours. I vow to hone my coffee cup handling skills to the point that I can stand up in a kayak being tossed around in a typhoon, and still not spill a drop. I consent to being promoted and subsequently busted at least twice per fiscal year. I realize that, once selected for Chief, I am required to submit myself to the sick, and quite possibly illegal, whims of my newfound "colleagues." So Help Me Neptune!



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US MARINE CORPS OATH OF ENLISTMENT
I, (have someone recite your name for you), swear.. uhhhh.... high-and-tight.... grunt... cammies....ugh... Air Force women.... HOORAH! So Help Me CORPS.!



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COAST GUARD OATH OF ENLISTMENT
I, Gilligan , swear to sign away 4 years of my life to the COAST GUARD, because I want to hang out with Merchant Marines without actually having to BE one of them, because I thought the Air Force was too "corporate," because I didn't want to actually live in dirt like the Army, I didn't want to have to cut my hair for the Marines, and the US Navy leaves the United States and has big ships, and because I thought, "Hey, I don't want to leave home anyway?" I promise to wear clothes that look like the Air Force because the Coast Guard couldn't come up with their own uniform. I will strive to use a different language than the rest of the English speaking world, using words like "deck, bulkhead, cover, geedunk, scuttlebutt, scuttle and head," when I really mean "floor, wall, hat, candy, water fountain, hole in wall and toilet." I will take great pride in the fact that all Coast Guard acronyms, rank, and insignia, and everything else for that matter, are completely different from the other services and make absolutely no sense whatsoever. I will muster, whatever that is, at 0930 hours every morning at the local doughnut shop and talk about how great it is not to be a real service and fight any wars. I vow to hone my coffee cup handling skills to the point that I can stand up in a dinging being tossed around in a thunder strom, and still not spill a drop. I consent to not being promoted like the real military. I realize that, once selected for Chief, I am required to submit myself to the sick, and quite possibly illegal, whims of my newfound "colleagues." So Help Me Department of Transportation!



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>>>One correction to the AF one...the bike test is no longer the official PT test....they actually have to run, do situps and pushups. :)

Rodney<---13 years Air Force

Air Force joke a friend sent me.


Airman vs. Soldier

There's an Air Force guy driving from McChord AFB to Ft Lewis, and an Army guy driving from Ft Lewis to McChord AFB. In the middle of the night with no other cars on the road they hit each other head on and both cars go flying off in different directions.

The Air Force guy manages to climb out of his car and surveys the damage. He looks at his twisted car and says,....."Man, I am really lucky to be alive!"

Likewise the Army guy scrambles out of his car and looks at his wreckage. He too says to himself, ..... "I can't believe I survived this wreck!"

The Army guy walks over to the Air Force guy and says,...... "Hey man, I think this is a sign from God that we should put away our petty differences and live as friends instead of archrivals"

The Air Force guy thinks for a moment and says,

"You know, you're absolutely right! We should be friends. Now I'm gonna see what else survived this wreck"

So the Air Force guy pops open his trunk and finds a full, unopened bottle of Jack Daniels.

He says to the Army guy, "I think this is another sign from God that we should toast to our new found understanding and friendship"

The Army guy replies, "You're damn right!" and he grabs the bottle and starts sucking down Jack Daniels. After putting away nearly half the bottle the Army guy hands it back to the Air Force guy and says, "Your turn!"

The Air Force guy twists the cap back on the bottle and says, "Nahh, I think I'll wait for the cops to show up."

Haha the oaths of enlistment were good for a chuckle :D Do close friends in other branches not call each other by their first names? =O I mean I'd never call my superiors by their first names but people I'm friends with that are SIMILAR rank I'll call by their first name....and yeah tyhe AF bike test was dumb, regardless of in shape or not, smoke a cigarette 10 mins before the test and you'd pass everytime. I knew people that ran marathons and lifted daily and couldnt pass the bike test :eyes: Fortunately our test is similar enough to the Army's where we MIGHT not get as bad of a rap anymore :judge: :chug:

Hahahahha.... nice oaths.

Hey fellas.... to me, honestly... My pride is in that I serve my country. All of you regardless of rank, gender, branch or anything else are contributors to your country... so I am proud of what you do as well. This is America... and it is what it is because of people that are willing to give themselves to this country, regardless of your motivation to join, or what you believe politically... Thanks to all that serve!!!

The oaths were great, that was a lot of shit talking the first few pages. 11 bang bang for the first 3 years of my career in the Army!!!!!!!!! Now recruiter........ :cry: have an uncle in the Marines, another one in the Airforce, another one ex Army, and my Grandfather was in the Navy. All the services are great, if we didn`t have a selection, there would be alot more college dropouts without jobs. Face it some people need the buffet.....its the American way :)

Air Force members can generally spell better as well. :jest:

the one thing i love the most is being a Marine. Not being a "member". :)

Back up your claim with facts then if you feel the Marines have a right to complain...

Either way, I don't really care about who thinks what branch is better. We all made our choice as to which service to go in to. It just bothers me to no end when people spout off absolute indoctrinated propaganda about why their own service is so vastly superior.

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I found this to be bullshit.. I was watching some Presidental speach, and when he finished, he shook he hands of the Army Commander, the Navy Admiral, and the Airforce Commander. He straight passed the CMC. What kind of bull shit is that?

c'mon sgt marines know our branch is treated at the bottom. we do the shit work, so get treated like shit. love it, but we still do the coolest shit regardless :)

indeed

+1 to what he said ^

the one thing i love the most is being a Marine. Not being a "member". :)
:werd:

I think that the AF provides an important contribution to the war. Although it's viewed mainly as support, the AF is responsible for a lot. Air lift, TIC response, SFs augmenting Army MPs, and so on.

What you do, where you do it, and how long you do it for really depends on your job.

If you're a Marine, of course you're on the frontlines. First to fight, and these are some of the most disciplined people I've ever seen. Those dudes earn their bragging rights.

If you're a Soldier, you can expect to be part of a sustaining force and the "jack of all trades". And when I see these guys refill their battle-damaged convoys at the JP-8 station, I know they earn their stripes.

If you're a Sailor, you know that you might as well be considered "constantly deployed" with all the sea duty you have to do. Ships aren't the most comfortable place to be seeing the world in, and coming from a Navy family, I know how often you guys AREN'T home. Your ratings are well-deserved.

And if you're an Airman, you can expect to play a more supportive role in a war. The AF is the premier air power of our military, and with that comes the responsibility of responding to TICs and self-sustenance (AGE, HVAC, DIGS, COMM, SATCOM, RADAR, OPS, the docs, and security forces). TACP guys roll with the Army, and PJs jump on the CSAR missions as everyone else. Our stripes, well, we wait long enough to get 'em as it is!

Today's war is more integrated, service-wise, than any other in the past. We've had plenty of time to gauge the demands of combat, and have had that same time to identify who contributes what to the fight. Who does it better or more, is merely a matter of pride more-so than it is of capability.

Your average Soldier is going to work harder than your average Airman, physically. But in no way does that mean that the Airman's contribution to the fight is any less important than the Soldier's. There is more to fighting than shooting marksman and holding quals on the most weapons, or mobilizing operations modules and JTIDS modules to control aircraft.

I myself am a radar operator, and I realize the joint contribution everyone makes, from the Flightline management office near H6, to the PASS & ID office near DFAC #2, to the Army/AF gate guards around Balad AB/LSA Anaconda, to the convoys headed out the gate for their n-teenth time out.

And it makes me proud to see us all on the same side. :)

I think that the AF provides an important contribution to the war. Although it's viewed mainly as support, the AF is responsible for a lot. Air lift, TIC response, SFs augmenting Army MPs, and so on.

What you do, where you do it, and how long you do it for really depends on your job.

If you're a Marine, of course you're on the frontlines. First to fight, and these are some of the most disciplined people I've ever seen. Those dudes earn their bragging rights.

If you're a Soldier, you can expect to be part of a sustaining force and the "jack of all trades". And when I see these guys refill their battle-damaged convoys at the JP-8 station, I know they earn their stripes.

If you're a Sailor, you know that you might as well be considered "constantly deployed" with all the sea duty you have to do. Ships aren't the most comfortable place to be seeing the world in, and coming from a Navy family, I know how often you guys AREN'T home. Your ratings are well-deserved.

And if you're an Airman, you can expect to play a more supportive role in a war. The AF is the premier air power of our military, and with that comes the responsibility of responding to TICs and self-sustenance (AGE, HVAC, DIGS, COMM, SATCOM, RADAR, OPS, the docs, and security forces). TACP guys roll with the Army, and PJs jump on the CSAR missions as everyone else. Our stripes, well, we wait long enough to get 'em as it is!

Today's war is more integrated, service-wise, than any other in the past. We've had plenty of time to gauge the demands of combat, and have had that same time to identify who contributes what to the fight. Who does it better or more, is merely a matter of pride more-so than it is of capability.

Your average Soldier is going to work harder than your average Airman, physically. But in no way does that mean that the Airman's contribution to the fight is any less important than the Soldier's. There is more to fighting than shooting marksman and holding quals on the most weapons, or mobilizing operations modules and JTIDS modules to control aircraft.

I myself am a radar operator, and I realize the joint contribution everyone makes, from the Flightline management office near H6, to the PASS & ID office near DFAC #2, to the Army/AF gate guards around Balad AB/LSA Anaconda, to the convoys headed out the gate for their n-teenth time out.

And it makes me proud to see us all on the same side. :)

That was VERY well put! :usa:

I'm USAF, my cousin is a Capt. in the Marines, two of my cousins are E-6's in the Navy and another cousin is E-5 Army Ranger. That alone makes for fun moments during thanksgiving when we all attempt to get together lol. Not to mention the countless friend across the board in every branch. I crack jokes as they do just to poke fun at one another, nothing serious. Only time I get lippy is when I meet someone who doesn't give my branch the respect they deserve (saw a lot of that at Ramstein). When that happens, I like to put them in their place as only someone who controls every flight in and out of the AOR to go back home...gotta love being the working at the busiest en-route lol.

Regardless, we're all the department of defense and will always bust eachother's balls :judge: My Dad was a pilot in the Navy, Oldest brother was an Army Ranger, Middle Brother was Force Recon in the Marines. I’ll admit that I called both my brothers when I graduated boot camp and told them how much of a joke the Navy’s boot camp was. I worked on H-60’s on active duty in the Navy but now I’m trying to do aircrew on C-130’s in the reserves since it’s the closest aircraft job around for squid’s. My civilian job is getting the new AH-1Z Viper and UH-1Y Venom implemented into the Marines arsenal. The Marines were already bad ass before, now we just made them even more lethal.

For you Jarheads: Your new aircrafts’ slogan is “We made it beautiful because it’s the last thing some people will ever see”

MARINE:
Muscles Are Required Intelligence Not Essential
My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment

NAVY:
Never Again Volunteer Yourself
Need any Vaseline Yet

ARMY:
Aren’t Really Men Yet
Aren’t Ready to be Marines Yet

AIR FORCE:
An Ignorant Reject Faggot On Really Crappy Equipment

Some key points why I think the A/F is better.
-$12,000 Bonous and 2 stripes for 6 yr enlistment
-Score is higher to join on ASVAB
-I been deployed 3 times and not one has gone over 5 months.
-Better food
-Sweeter assignments
-Best Air Force in the world. Marines/Navy/Army have aircraft but nothing to match the Air Force.
-We get treated better
-We have Nukes
-Basic is 6 1/2 weeks long
-I can keep going but I'll stop here :)


sounds like you took the easy way out! :engarde:

By the time i'm done with Iraq, I will have 18 months straight. My unit is the 172nd Stryker Brigade. 1st Battalion of the 17th Infantry Regiment. Best damn unit in the regular army. And we have the numbers to prove it.

By the time i'm done with Iraq, I will have 18 months straight. My unit is the 172nd Stryker Brigade. 1st Battalion of the 17th Infantry Regiment. Best damn unit in the regular army. And we have the numbers to prove it.
You may have the numbers, but you guys still spelled striker wrong. :nono:




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USAF and I'm very proud of my branch and its service. Anytime I get upset and feel as if what I'm doing is bullshit, I remember what everyone else is doing over there and around the world and it keeps me in check day in and day out.

You may have the numbers, but you guys still spelled striker wrong. :nono:




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LOL!!!!!!! and regular Infantry=big numbers :jest:

How to be regular Infantry:

Look for enemy
When you see the enemy aim for their center mass
Fire
Repeat steps one threw three :jest:

After you have done this and its time to "sleep"
Lay down, use canteen as pillow and poncho as blanket

Morning:
Wake up
Check for wildlife in your gear and or clothing
Stand up

Repeat steps one threw three :jest:


Just giving you guys a hard time :)
Stay safe!



One correction to the AF one...the bike test is no longer the official PT test....they actually have to run, do situps and pushups.

Yeah you know its bad when you go to Crew Chief school and they have PT now LOL. Back in the day there was no PT their LOL.

I hear they call it the Sheppard Shuffle when its time to "run" :jest: :jest: :jest: :jest: :jest:

I used to work with a guy that is shiping out for the Marines in January. He goes to a local school were the new recruites go once a week for all the branches.
The Marines do drill.... the AF guys watch a movie and order pizza......I kid you not LOL!

The Sheppard Shuffle is right.... 99% of the people running there just kinda puts around... I was one of the 'uncool' guys that actually ran hard during PT. Probably the same people I test now that can barely pass or don't pass at all because they're still lazy asses :P

LOL!!!!!!! and regular Infantry=big numbers :jest:

How to be regular Infantry:

Look for enemy
When you see the enemy aim for their center mass
Fire
Repeat steps one threw three :jest:

After you have done this and its time to "sleep"
Lay down, use canteen as pillow and poncho as blanket

Morning:
Wake up
Check for wildlife in your gear and or clothing
Stand up

Repeat steps one threw three :jest:


Just giving you guys a hard time :)
Stay safe!





Yeah you know its bad when you go to Crew Chief school and they have PT now LOL. Back in the day there was no PT their LOL.

I hear they call it the Sheppard Shuffle when its time to "run" :jest: :jest: :jest: :jest: :jest:

I used to work with a guy that is shiping out for the Marines in January. He goes to a local school were the new recruites go once a week for all the branches.
The Marines do drill.... the AF guys watch a movie and order pizza......I kid you not LOL!