fbodyfreek

anyone know much about how 3000GTs perform? i've gotta 97 T/A with 3.73s. i've run a 14.4 @ 95.00 in the quarter, but my tires spun well into second gear (everytime). it's an auto. this particular 3K is a vr4 (not sure of the year) and i've heard those run high 13's. all this guys got is an intake. i've also heard that 3Ks are actually heavier than my car, but i don't know if it would make a significant difference. i'm gonna run 'em either way, but i just wanted to hear some predictions. thanks.

Ls1_axxxman

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If you don't hook up he may very well take ya because he's not gonna spin, the beauty of AWD. Get yours out of the hole and I think you should take him if all he really has is an intake. 3kgt's are heavy, not sure how much heavier though. Line em up and let us know what happens.

Ghostriderr

About the same weight as your TA. Maybe a little more. If he has an intake he probably has a filter, exhaust, and the boost turned up. High 13s/low 14s were the stock times I remember. But AWD will murder you from a dig with elevated boost. Get some DRs and/or run him from a roll. He may not even have a clue how to launch or roll with a turbo.

LSINA7

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Should be close.

Tudds

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he'll probably beat you, the early ones are 5 speeds though, the rest are 6s

S8ER95Z

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Lightly modded I ran a Vr4 up to 160mph and he was about a half car length ahead of me.

Stock I ran 14.1 @ 97mph on a 2.1 60ft. When I ran him i had 2200 stall, built trans, 3:42s, cai and exhaust (no cat). Not sure if he was modded or not..but I thought they trapped a little over the 100mph mark.

11 Bravo

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I think you will lose. The 3000 will destroy you off the line.

SummerOnTheChain

A properly maintained VR4 will pull off around a 13.7 or so if it is launched and driven correctly. The average driver is more likely to pull a higher 13 or so..

They weigh about 38xx give or take a few.

Remember, most of these cars are aproachin 15 and 16 years old, and probably aren't in the best shaped. Turbos start to wear out around the 90k mark and will greatly reduce power.

But I would say right now your only hope would be that he is a bad driver, or his car is not healthy.

SpringtowN

watch out for those cars one of my friends has a 93 stealth, runs low 11's yah its modded but not as much as you would think some of those things are freaks....

Smokinstorm

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It really doesn't take much to put those in the 12's. The problem is that you can hardly tell a 12 second one from a completely stock one. One main ingredient for a lightly modded 12 second 3/S is the driver mod. Bad driver = bog off the line and 14 second timeslips. Good driver = 1.7 or possibly even better 60's on whatever road you race on and a 12 second car if the boost is turned up. Good luck with your race and let us know how it works out.

jpat1023

I used to own one, you will lose. Sorry, but if all you have are gears and he can drive a little bit, you will lose.

Beasst8

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Yeah, I dont think you will win. Ive driven a couple and man those things are the heat from a dig.

81LsElky

3k can be quick and he may not be telling the whole story of whats under the hood! But it also depends on how good he can drive as well, but i guess you will find out soon enough. Good luck with the race though, hpefully you come out on top!

craz28

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i raced a 97 3000gt once (dohc one with like 220 hp), heavy *** car and had 2 ppl in it. It was like racing a turtle. In yout case yea dont do from a dig

Formula_X

I raced a VR4 in my LS1 Formula from a 30mph roll up to 75mph and had 2 car lengths on him. My mods at the time were the same as in my signature minus the lid and I'm pretty sure his VR4 was stock (he also had a passenger and I didn't). I've raced LT1 Fbodys and Vettes when I was bone stock and have beaten them much more badly. I'm sorry to say it but I'm pretty sure you will lose to a VR4.

old and good

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VR4's are some good machines. higher 13's expected. much easyer to roll race cus of the 4wd. my buddy only got a exhaust intake and higher boost and measured 296hp to the wheels wich is fairly good since the stock ones make about 240-250 to the wheels. the car if i remember corectly is 3830lbs so they weigh more

MikeySS2000x

it all depends on the driver i feel thats of the 3000GT of course. My friend has a 99 VR-4 and that car can move. Of course he has like 4 G's underneath the hood and the car is consistently putting over 20 PSI at the wheels. His 3000GT is high 10's low 11's. Between the 2 cars stock for stock...the only difference and it is a major difference is the AWD, only on the sheer fact alone he won't spin when he hits it.

Nite_Hawk

I use to race my co-workers 3K vr4 all the time. We'd race from dig and rolls. He would get me up to about 35 or so on the dig, then i'd pull about 3 cars on him. From a roll, i'd leave him every time. I just had my CAI and Flowmaster on at the time. He had intake and exhaust. This is with my 97 T/A LT1

Adnectere

I have a friend who has a 95 VR4. I would say it's fast, but in a different way. Isn't that always the case? You can drive an LSX around town at 1200 rpms cruising, but this car you have to keep higher. It's got solid torque, just like an LSX. Let's not forget that what we've got in an F-Body is basically a detuned Corvette motor and what a VR4 represents: the top-of-the-line Mitsu sports car that's a hot-rodded Stealth that at the time cost more than a Corvette. So we're basically comparing a Chevy sports car that's built for cheap against a super luxury car that's built for huge cost. The only issue with them is the weight. In a real race, say a road course, you'd eat him alive over distance. Get him up high in speed where you're in your powerband. If you can delete the advantage of his AWD you'll have him. BTW as an aside I had my friend put it in top gear and floor it on the highway from 50 to test his flexibility. It took about a minute to go from 50->70. Once you cut out his short gears (read torque multipliers) and AWD, there's not much left to fight you with and lots of weight to bog him down. You can take a C5 vette from 50->70 even in 6th with it's 0.50:1 ratio in about 20 seconds ~1 mph/sec.

Quick1998Z28

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if he's even got as little as a boost controller and basic tune done to that car he will eat you alive.