Street Racing & Kill Stories - Will a 400rwhp f-body beat a stock C6 Z06?

In the quarter-mile, given equal driving ability, will a 400rwhp f-body beat a stock C6 Z06?

This guy thinks so...

Originally posted by Cobra Commander
And you only need about 400 rwhp in an F-body to take down a stock C6 Z06

in the 1/4

Street tire vs. street tire? Probably not.

STREET race 1/4 mile? Probably not.

Teh C6 would have to have incredible traction problems, and the driver suck. 400+ lb weight advantage and 60-70 more RW is a pretty big gap.

z06s have 505hp. that shoudl be enough to answer the question for you.

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

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well, maybe if the f-body guy stole the Z06's spark plug wires. or keys.

:stupid: + :STFU: = cobra commander

from a roll a stock c6 z06 will edge a 500 rwhp f-body out

ya no chance... f-body would have to be pushin 450~470ish to have a chance

400rwhp 4500 stalled auto f-body with 4.30's and stripped down and on a tire will beat a stock C6 Z06

lol this guy is reposting stuff from LS2

Look at the SI and cam only list. Good day.

No Offense But The Z06 Cars Are Very Over Rated And That 505 Is Not Rwhp Its Flywheel. And Id Take An F Body For 15k Over That Turd Of A Vette For 85 K All Day Long

a 400 rwhp f-body could beat a stock C5 Z06, but no way against a c6 z06. I held my own against my good friends C6, which is about the equivalent of a C5 Z06, and I make approx. 375 rwhp, but I have some weight reduction done to my camaro. He must mean a C5 Z06, or otherwise the guys an idiot.

No Offense But The Z06 Cars Are Very Over Rated And That 505 Is Not Rwhp Its Flywheel. And Id Take An F Body For 15k Over That Turd Of A Vette For 85 K All Day Long
Lol, this thread is gonna get ugly :jest:

No Offense But The Z06 Cars Are Very Over Rated And That 505 Is Not Rwhp Its Flywheel. And Id Take An F Body For 15k Over That Turd Of A Vette For 85 K All Day Long

Over-rated? Compared to what? I own an fbody and having been in a C6 Z06 there is no comparison. The ride quality, interior, styling, handeling, and performance arent even in the same universe as an f-body. Now if we are talking bang for the buck to make the fastest car possible then obviously you can pick up an fbody for cheap, mod the shit out of it, and make it faster than the vette, but your still suck with an f-body...I love my camaro but seriously the vette is in another league.

No Offense But The Z06 Cars Are Very Over Rated And That 505 Is Not Rwhp Its Flywheel. And Id Take An F Body For 15k Over That Turd Of A Vette For 85 K All Day Long
It's about 460+/- at the wheels, in a 3150lb. package. Over-rated? Hardly. A $500 hooker would be over-rated...A new ZO6 would fly by a 400hp F-body like he was tied to a pole!

a ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!! maybe if the driver is peeing in his pants from laughing so hard. too much wiehgt difference and 400 is not close too what a z06 isoutting to the ground

Yes It Is The League Of Rich Boy Toys.i Also Have Been In The Z06 Maybe The Car U Were In Was The Exception Or Maybe Mine Was The Turd.

No Offense But The Z06 Cars Are Very Over Rated And That 505 Is Not Rwhp Its Flywheel. And Id Take An F Body For 15k Over That Turd Of A Vette For 85 K All Day Long


I had this long logical reply to this statement, but I deleted it to say.

YOUR AN IDIOT! Have a nice day.

No Offense But The Z06 Cars Are Very Over Rated And That 505 Is Not Rwhp Its Flywheel. And Id Take An F Body For 15k Over That Turd Of A Vette For 85 K All Day Long

doesn't change the fact that a c6z06 will go YARD on any 400rwhp f-body.

this sounds like the old LT1 vs LS1 threads.

So a stock c6 Z06 will run 7.1x range in the 1/8th then right. It would have to do that or better to outrun a 400rwhp a4 f body from my experience

guys check out the kill section...there are multiple posts of fadi's stock c6 z06 beating a 475 rwhp C5 vette and a 500+rwhp procharged ls1...its not gonna happen, a 400 rwhp ls1 fbody WILL NOT beat a C6 Z06 vette.

The only place a 400rwhp f-body stands a chance is at the strip with a completely dialed in suspension, and even then some luck is going to be required. On the street it is going to get murdered.

lol, a bone stock 06 Z06 is more like 445-460rwhp bone stock. Even if they weighed exactly the same, how the hell does 400rwhp=450rwhp??? That guys an idiot.

No way...

I think it would be a close race between a 400rwhp fbody with stall and gears and a decent tire vs a stock c6 z06...in a 1/4 obviously...from a roll...haha no not a chance

The only place a 400rwhp f-body stands a chance is at the strip with a completely dialed in suspension, and even then some luck is going to be required. On the street it is going to get murdered.


the first logical thing anyone has said in this thread

No Offense But The Z06 Cars Are Very Over Rated And That 505 Is Not Rwhp Its Flywheel. And Id Take An F Body For 15k Over That Turd Of A Vette For 85 K All Day Long

Talk about an uneducated comment :eyes:

The Corvette is the more capable vehicle, hands down. It's lighter, more powerful, handles better, and is better built than the F-Body. Its not overrated by any means. It hangs with Ferarris, Porsches, and Lambos costing 2-3 times as much, I don't see how thats "overtated" at all.

As for my vote, no competition. A stock C6 Z06 would walk all over a 400WHP F-body. Not only does the Vette weigh ~300lbs less, but its also putting down much more than 400WHP, meaning the F-body wouldn't have a chance.

oh shit, i voted for the f-body :bang:

i didn't see ZO6. i thought it said stock C6! everyone remove one vote from the 400rwhp f-body. not only is the vette more aerodynamic and lighter, it puts down more power than that stock.

cam....only.......list

How many times do I have to say it?

Although few, there are stock heads/stock cam cars that have bested the Z06 times.

Get a clue.

yeah, with WAY more than 400rwhp.

Get a clue.

Are you saying that there are stock H/C ls1's that have beat 06 Z06 times??? Thats a rediculous comment if thats what you are sayin...

...or am I confused?

A 400 rwhp F-body with weight reduction, stall, suspension and gear will do it. It's already been done.

A 400 rwhp F-body with weight reduction, stall, suspension and gear will do it. It's already been done.


You are right, in the quarter there are SOME that would win with those mods. From a roll it would get MURDERED BIG TIME!!!
Then if the Zo6 did weight reduction, tire, and driver mod it would most likely win the quarter.

a stripped down,huge stalled 400rwhp fbody with slicks from a stop should have a chance. i cant see it trapping anywhere near what a c6z06 would though.

a stripped down,huge stalled 400rwhp fbody with slicks from a stop should have a chance. i cant see it trapping anywhere near what a c6z06 would though.

It could run the Z06 in the 1/4 time wise, but trap speed??

Not even close :judge:

It could run the Z06 in the 1/4 time wise, but trap speed??

Not even close :judge:


Correct :nod:

Look at the RWHP on a Z06....50+ more than the 400rwhp F-body...lighter weight too. Come on now...

:lol: trap speed and roll racing :lol:

:lol: trap speed and roll racing :lol:


You are right. He said a 400rwhp F-bod in the Quarter.

A 400 rwhp f-bod WILL NOT WIN!!
He didn't say anything about tires or suspension or stall he said 400 rwhp. If thats the case start adding Quarter mile/ Drag parts on the C6 zo6. I.E. Tires, suspension, weight reduction etc.. You started adding parts to the f-bod to race in the quarter. He did not.

I did, in the thread at LS2 before he decided to take it over here for whatever reason.

Why would I say 400 rwhp with stock trans, stall, gears and suspension? :lol:

:lol: trap speed and roll racing :lol:

Yea, actually going fast isn't important at all, just getting from point A to point B quickly :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

Yea, actually going fast isn't important at all, just getting from point A to point B quickly :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

The last time I checked that's what drag racing is. Do I need to MSpaint it for you?

I did, in the thread at LS2 before he decided to take it over here for whatever reason.

Why would I say 400 rwhp with stock trans, stall, gears and suspension? :lol:


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1360361


Add some tires to that and bye bye f-bod!

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1360361


Add some tires to that and bye bye f-bod!

Which would no longer make it stock. :bang:

I mean technically yes, there are nine second cam only f bodies. But in a general context, hell no.

I did, in the thread at LS2 before he decided to take it over here for whatever reason.

Why would I say 400 rwhp with stock trans, stall, gears and suspension? :lol:
If your argument is that a 400 RWHP A4 F-body set up for drag racing (tires, suspension, weight reduction, etc.) can take a stock C6 Z06 (stock radials and all) in a 1/4 mile drag race, then you are absolutely correct. Of course a 1500 lb rail with a 305 would take both of them.

If your argument is that a 400 RWHP A4 F-body set up for drag racing (tires, suspension, weight reduction, etc.) can take a stock C6 Z06 (stock radials and all) in a 1/4 mile drag race, then you are absolutely correct. Of course a 1500 lb rail with a 305 would take both of them.


:nod: That's what I'm saying.

I made about 410 hp and 393 torque, and took down a 2003 zo6 with headers and a tune, six speed. Not only this but I did it on the highway where the z06 really likes to get busy.
So I say yes it could happen.

a miracle

I meant c5, and now that I see your talking c6, I say "not no, but hell no". I think you have a better chance from a dig. I seen a 402 trans am race a c6 from a dig and beat the z06 by 4-5 car lengths. They did a run on the highway and the c6 left him like he was standing still.

or the fbody has a high stall.....going against a zo6 that misses every gear lol

I was at the track last week its a 1/8th mile track. got up against this guy with an new c6 zo6 and beat him but thats only because he was spinning the whole way down the track. he just got the car like 3 weeks before that. next run he let his dad drive it (who races a 4.9xx pro mod) dad kicked my butt the whole way down the track it ran a mid 7. have to give it up to the vette that is one bad machine.

I've seen a f-body do a 10 sec 250hp shot n20 with a 305 block. Once again though, built for track. If we were to say a pure prepped track car, slicks suspension etc with only a measly 400rwhp, then yeah it'd win.

Unfortunately the thread didn't mention 10k invested in suspension so I'm thinking cam/heads, mild mods trying to go against a c6 z06 with 460rwhp on avg with a suspension that puts it in the top 3 of the WORLD on the nurburgring, let alone be able to pull 11's all day on a track on street tires...

My vote to the z06 and it's pointless to keep tossing mods on the f-body in this comparison... might as well be a ricer talking about throwing a blower on his 4 banger on how he COULD get fast...

oh a vid when the 305 was pulling 11's... I'll find the 10 run somewhere..

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/E115DCF7-FAA3-405F-BB87-0B14603EBEF8.htm

In the quarter-mile, given equal driving ability, will a 400rwhp f-body beat a stock C6 Z06?

This guy thinks so...
no unless you drop curb under 3000 lbs

I made about 410 hp and 393 torque, and took down a 2003 zo6 with headers and a tune, six speed. Not only this but I did it on the highway where the z06 really likes to get busy.
So I say yes it could happen.

Uhh.. thats a C5, about a 80 HP difference there.

If the fbody had DR's and the z06 had no tires just rims, the fbody would destroy it hands down.. Im serious

PS, i was at corvettes at carlisle yesterday and theres a guy there with track slips proving his stock z06 ran 11.38 and 11.2 on DR's... So, now find someone with 400rwhp that runs better than 11.38. btw, his 60's were 1.9 and 1.82 for those runs.

PS, i was at corvettes at carlisle yesterday and theres a guy there with track slips proving his stock z06 ran 11.38 and 11.2 on DR's... So, now find someone with 400rwhp that runs better than 11.38. btw, his 60's were 1.9 and 1.82 for those runs.

Hey I was there too...we might have past each other at some point lol.

It was a good show, luckily the rain held off.

PS, i was at corvettes at carlisle yesterday and theres a guy there with track slips proving his stock z06 ran 11.38 and 11.2 on DR's... So, now find someone with 400rwhp that runs better than 11.38. btw, his 60's were 1.9 and 1.82 for those runs.
I think he is a member here, "Ranger"

was it a red Z06?

yes it was a red z06 with gunmetal wheels... he did the dyno there i think it was 460 something but if hes on here im sure he could tell you.. and yeah he was walking around with a ranger hat on.. The show was pretty good.. The mallett guys were cool, and i talked to the VP of fidanza for a while about his sts twin turbo c6, among other things, very nice guy..

id have to say no

I think he is a member here, "Ranger"

was it a red Z06?

hes the master at the strip :)

Some of you guys are missing one very key point mentioned in the original post. RWHP... Unfortunately which tranny was used was not mentioned, so if we assume the F-Body made 400 RWHP through an unlocked A4 it is much closer to the C6 Z06 460 RWHP through an M6 than some of you are figuring. If we use the fall back numbers of 25% loss through an A4 with a loose converter compared to 15% loss through an M6, then all of a sudden we are comparing a 533 HP F-body to a 540 HP Vette. I think it would only take some minimal suspension work and some minor weight reduction on the F-body to make up that defecite. That said, throw a good clutch, some sticky tires and find a way to get rid of the TM on the Vette and its a whole different race. No matter what, I would still much prefer the C6 Z06.

I dont see the point though, if cobracommander is comparing a gutted, huge stall, built rear, built tranny, full suspension 400 rwhp fbody on a sticky tire then yes it could beat a stock c6 z06 on a street tire in the 1/4 mile, but what the fuck is the point? A shopping cart with an ls1 strapped to it could do the same to both, but whats the point? Its just stupid to compare the two...

is it even a question?

Somone on the the other forum was asking how much rwhp it took, and people were spouting off 500 rwhp and such. I couldn't care less about how streetable it is.

damn 427 ci with superior heads intake lighter weight vs 346ci what do you think .
how many threads does there have to be . Imagine what Lg's vette runs with 623 at the tires . And John Force would take anybody here in his 8,000hp Mustang so what.

Somone on the the other forum was asking how much rwhp it took, and people were spouting off 500 rwhp and such. I couldn't care less about how streetable it is.

Right if your talking roll racing with a full weight f-body youd need 500+ rwhp to pull on the c6 z06. 1/4 mile race it would be a different story and you could beat a stock z06 on a stock tire with a 400 rwhp fbody, but how much would be left of the car? I mean you talking about a built drag car with 400 rwhp and significantly lightened against a stock c6 z06, which doesnt make much sense to compare because you are comparing two cars built for totally different purposes. Hell you could be that same 400 rwhp built fbody with a completely gutted 300-350 rwhp notchback mustang with a built suspension/rear/stall/etc, but what does that prove?

If the fbody had DR's and the z06 had no tires just rims, the fbody would destroy it hands down.. Im serious


lmao.

No way man.

I misread the question and was thinking of a "C5" Z06 and voted for the 400 rwhp F-Body. A C6 would blow it away.

No Offense But The Z06 Cars Are Very Over Rated And That 505 Is Not Rwhp Its Flywheel. And Id Take An F Body For 15k Over That Turd Of A Vette For 85 K All Day Long

thats bc u cant afford a 85k car.

it is all relative, if u make 150k a year you would prolly be driving a c6 zo6 then a ls1 fbody that can be purchased for 7 or 8k nowdays.

^^^^True dat! My mods cost more than what I paid for my car used. I can stomp C6 ZO6's on the street all day but I'll still trade my SS for one in a heartbeat if there was a chance.

car vs car i would say the Z06 would lead but by small amount of land.

driver vs driver, anything can happen.

C6 ZO6 FTW :devil:

the only way that 400rwhp would beat or have a chance with the c6zo6....iz if he had alil red button that made ur car go from 400 to 500 rwhp ;)

(N20) for the newbs :lurk:

No Offense But The Z06 Cars Are Very Over Rated And That 505 Is Not Rwhp Its Flywheel. And Id Take An F Body For 15k Over That Turd Of A Vette For 85 K All Day Long

Psychologically you are angry at those who CAN afford such cars. So you bathe in self-denial by thinking of the entire car in one dimention.

The two cars I see myself having sooner rather than later: Mercedes SL-65 and Ferrari F-430 Spider.

Yes, my Camaro can smoke both of them; just because it can however doesn't mean its better than my two choice "turds" as you would refer them to be.

Right if your talking roll racing with a full weight f-body youd need 500+ rwhp to pull on the c6 z06. 1/4 mile race it would be a different story and you could beat a stock z06 on a stock tire with a 400 rwhp fbody, but how much would be left of the car? I mean you talking about a built drag car with 400 rwhp and significantly lightened against a stock c6 z06, which doesnt make much sense to compare because you are comparing two cars built for totally different purposes. Hell you could be that same 400 rwhp built fbody with a completely gutted 300-350 rwhp notchback mustang with a built suspension/rear/stall/etc, but what does that prove?

That you don't need 500 rwhp to beat one at the strip :bang:

My f-boby 3100lb car puts down 360 rwhp and goes 11.30's at the track and leaves harder on the streeet so yes a 400 rwhp f-body would would beat a stock c6

My f-boby 3100lb car puts down 360 rwhp and goes 11.30's at the track and leaves harder on the streeet so yes a 400 rwhp f-body would would beat a stock c6


not stock c6,

a stock c6 zo6

the only way that 400rwhp would beat or have a chance with the c6zo6....iz if he had alil red button that made ur car go from 400 to 500 rwhp ;)

(N20) for the newbs :lurk:

that would make it a 500rwhp fbody,

question is about a 400rwhp fbody,

please stay on topic or make ur own thread

If you remove enough weight, a stock Fbody can beat a Z06. I have 423 RWHP and would get eaten alive by a new Z06. Even stripped Fbodies that have 430 at the wheels in an unlocked A4 barely hit ~130 in the traps. Being reasonable about the setup, this isn't even a question. This was the easiest pool I've ever voted on.

Aw crap I accidentally voted for the Camaro. Misread, thought it was between the Camaro and a LS2 C6.


Which brings up that question, LS2 C6 vs. 400RWHP F-body. Thoughts? I would think the F-body

blah blah blah... it would be a good race, the f-body would have to have dr though the 505 is at the flywheel. I go to the track a lot and have seen lots of full interiored f- bodys puting down 400 runing low 12 high 11's and thats what a new c-6 Z06 does.

I didn't vote.

A 400rwhp F-body could beat a C6 Z06. There are a lot of missing variables, as others have noted.

An all out setup in an F-body would be needed. The vast majority of 400 rwhp F-bodies wouldn't stand a chance unless the C6 driver sucked.

I didn't vote.

A 400rwhp F-body could beat a C6 Z06. There are a lot of missing variables, as others have noted.
An all out setup in an F-body would be needed. The vast majority of 400 rwhp F-bodies wouldn't stand a chance unless the C6 driver sucked.

Exactly. There are 400rwhp f-bodies that run 12's, 11's, 10's, and 9's.

Weight reduction, transmission, drag radials, gearing, stall, converter, etc etc?

If the f-bod is stock weight and manual, then hell yes, the C6 Z06 will destroy it.

I can't believe this is a debate!

The question says stock Z06 C6 versus 400 rwhp f-body. It mentions nothing about modding any of the two out. Based on the "question" the answer is straight foward. Too many people subjectively adding to a question that is already clear. :eyes:

As Carlos Mencia would say: Deet da dee! :jest:

I can't believe this is a debate!

The question says stock Z06 C6 versus 400 rwhp f-body. It mentions nothing about modding any of the two out. Based on the "question" the answer is straight foward. Too many people subjectively adding to a question that is already clear. :eyes:

And what STOCK F-body makes 400rwhp??

The question is not clear, and listing "400rwhp F-body" implies that it has been modded.

ok,ill simplify this,or complicate things. :jest:


whats the fastest ET for a 400RWHP fbody? :eek2:

wow....i've seen some dumb pole questions but wow......there is absolutely no contest here, the C6 Z06 could give the fbody the back tires and still beat it!

in the fbodys dreams it will

wow....i've seen some dumb pole questions but wow......there is absolutely no contest here, the C6 Z06 could give the fbody the back tires and still beat it!

Not if it's one from the cam only record list. :)

is there a car on the cam only record list that makes 400rwhp?

is there a car on the cam only record list that makes 400rwhp?

Theres ALOT of cam only cars that make 4XX RWHP

there is just too many unanswerd questions about what kind of mods the f-body has? 400rwhp means nothing, we really need a list of the mods to make a rational guess, even then its just a guess.

not 4xx, just 400. and that are on the cam only record list.

there is just too many unanswerd questions about what kind of mods the f-body has? 400rwhp means nothing, we really need a list of the mods to make a rational guess, even then its just a guess.

Basically the deal is 400 rwhp, but that includes a completely gutted fbody (no seats, interior, etc), huge stall, built tranny, built rear, drag radials, etc versus a stock c6 z06 on street tires at a 1/4 mile strip...so its a gutted tin can with 400 rwhp set up for the track versus a stock c6 z06 (stock down to the tires). Doesnt make sense to me to compare the two but hey it isnt my thread...

not 4xx, just 400. and that are on the cam only record list.

yes tons of cam only cars on the record list with 400 rwhp...there are a couple of bolt on guys (stock internals) that have hit mid to low 11's...400 rwhp with the right setup (suspension, rear, tranny, gutted) can hit 10's in an fbody...its not easy to do but it can be done.

And what STOCK F-body makes 400rwhp??

The question is not clear, and listing "400rwhp F-body" implies that it has been modded.

The question "stated" the F-Body has 400 rwhp; that is a fact, not an implication. Your drawing abstract false conclusions based on a clear premise.

If the question said the Z06 had 600 rwhp would then start adding the laundry list of mods to the vette?...because that is essentially what you did. :thinker:

I don't follow your thinking.

sorry miss read the poll and voted that the f-body would win. I thought it was talking about the older zo6. my bad.

why only 400rwhp for the f-body anyways?

lol this is a joke right??

The average 400 rwhp LS1 gets destroyed by a stock C6 Z06 with equal drivers. But as many others have pointed out, a 400 rwhp LS1 with weight reduction, big stall, suspension goodies and sticky tires can beat a stock c6 Z06 in the quarter mile.

But even if I had a 800 rwhp LS1 capable of destroying any stock Z06 at will, I would still rather have the new Z06 sitting in my driveway :drool:

Ive Seen A Navy Blue C6-zo6 Driving In Fremont California A Few Times....i Think He Came From Synergy One Time I Saw Him...and The Last Time I High Beamed Him And Was Like Ahhhhh Thats A Bad Ass Car...it Dosent Sound Stock To Me......but I Would Not Race Him Untill I Get A Tune And A 12 Bolt...im No Fool Even If I Get 440 Rwhp With Cam Only Id Say Hed Kick My Ass On The Street.

The fact this thread even exists, deminishes us all......

I am not a fan of vettes, but teh C6 Z06 is one that I would own. Def. a badass car. mid 11s (if drven right) high 11s- low 12s with avg driver...~3200 pounds with 440+ RWHP.........that is one potent MFer.

are you kidding a c6 z06 would smoke a 400 rwhp camaro. I hate to admit it because I am a huge F body fan through and through but the new c6 zo6 hauls ass!!!!!!

from a roll a stock c6 z06 will edge a 500 rwhp f-body out
Not true I beat one by 1.25 cars lengths.

F-body will win easy!!! Whoops EDIT!!!!! /i missed the C6 part of the Z06 :jest:

ive already raced one froma roll; i got pulled about 3-5 cars... ive got 40x RWHP~

In the 1/4 there is a good chance to match the time. 11.50's seem realistic for both but the traps will be 119-121 vs ZO6 125+. From a roll ......the faster ya run them that car should just flat out walk away. Damn I want one so bad. Anyone want to buy a warmed up 03 Cobra?

i've raced a few and blew their doors off, especially from a roll on, but i have a blower and cam that keep pulling all the way to the redline. then again i also have 508rwhp on the most terrible day possible to dyno. i'm guessing the c6 z06 would win but not by much. my roomate has a c5 z06 and those things are over-rated, trust me. ls1 f-body all the way!

THe F-body would get killed period. Unless you morons are talking about a dragged out gutted F-body. Then it would be close.

Z06's run mid 11's with a good driver, 11.3 with a great driver BONE STOCK at 125-127 mph. I like F-body's but there is no way a hopped up F-bod will beat a new Z06.

In the quarter-mile, given equal driving ability, will a 400rwhp f-body beat a stock C6 Z06?

This guy thinks so...

Let me answer this one NO !!!!!!!!!!!

My C5 with everything you can think of (see sig) at 473 rwhp 431 rwtq couldn't beat the C6 ZO6. I did terrible against FADI the first time we hooked up, the second time I did much better, but not good enough to win. The only race where I win with the current setup is from a roll 100 to 150. At that point I am in my power band and the race ends at the very top of 4th gear for me. No shifting , no traction issues, just hold on.

I keep saying that I have a project in mind, I think I have settled on a forged 402 block, swap over my heads etc etc, and tune her really well. Several guys have built 402's with AFR 205 heads and made 490-505 rwhp and 480 + rwtq. The 402 would beat the ZO6. JMHO's

i've raced a few and blew their doors off, especially from a roll on, but i have a blower and cam that keep pulling all the way to the redline. then again i also have 508rwhp on the most terrible day possible to dyno. i'm guessing the c6 z06 would win but not by much. my roomate has a c5 z06 and those things are over-rated, trust me. ls1 f-body all the way!


You have a sick setup but blew their doors off? Do you mean from a dig or roll? I only ask because allng_c5 has some sick vids of a procharged 500 rwhp ls1 fbody getting beat by fadi's new C6 Z06 from a roll

my partner with a T/A 500rwhp got really close to beating C6 Z06 there is no way that a 400rwhp f-body will get close to the C6 Z06's bumper(rear)

It's very well possible. Just depends on how the car is setup, RPM ranges, suspension, gears, weight, etc. don't race in magazines, race at the track.

Over-rated? Compared to what? I own an fbody and having been in a C6 Z06 there is no comparison. The ride quality, interior, styling, handeling, and performance arent even in the same universe as an f-body. Now if we are talking bang for the buck to make the fastest car possible then obviously you can pick up an fbody for cheap, mod the shit out of it, and make it faster than the vette, but your still suck with an f-body...I love my camaro but seriously the vette is in another league.
you mean the 06 Z06

i think kick ss2000 is a :rice rocketeer

funny i have about 3 of them under my belt C5 Z06s that is on the hwy from a roll! 40-140 I would get killed bye new z06

Shouldn't we be comparing a 400rwhp fbody with the same transmission and tires as the zo6? In that case the fbody will get completely destroyed.

thats bc u cant afford a 85k car.

it is all relative, if u make 150k a year you would prolly be driving a c6 zo6 then a ls1 fbody that can be purchased for 7 or 8k nowdays.

:nod: :cheers:

PS, i was at corvettes at carlisle yesterday and theres a guy there with track slips proving his stock z06 ran 11.38 and 11.2 on DR's... So, now find someone with 400rwhp that runs better than 11.38. btw, his 60's were 1.9 and 1.82 for those runs.

I was there also. Good show. My C6 Z was there at Zip Corvettes tent. LeMans Blue with black if you say it. Anywho, I ran a best of 11.5x stock with stock tires and 11.0 @ 130 with headers, tune and DR's. At that speed it's a 10 sec car when I get a few more passes in it. Most of my 60' times were 1.90 to 2.00. :cheers:

you mean the 06 Z06

right, thats why I wrote C6 Z06 in my post...its the same thing

This is a stupid thread. A 400Rwhp f-body *could* beat a stock C6 Zo6 in the quarter. It all depends on the 60'. The Zo6 is going to trap much higher than the f-body. If you had a stalled f-body with nice tires, i think the f-body would win. (Assuming the Zo6 had stock tires and a 2.2 60'. Although, if the Zo6 has good tires and hooks up, lets say a 1.8 60' or so, the f-body has no chance.

No matter what conditions, with only 400Rwhp, the Zo6 will 0wn an f-body with a 1.8 60'...(unless of course he misses every gear after that, lol) :bang:

The bottom line, is that the Zo6 would need poor traction and the f-body superior traction. From a roll, you wouldn't even be able to tell they were racing, because the Zo6 would be pulling so hard, lol. :devil:

No Offense But The Z06 Cars Are Very Over Rated And That 505 Is Not Rwhp Its Flywheel. And Id Take An F Body For 15k Over That Turd Of A Vette For 85 K All Day Longthey run low 11's stock so chalge them to 3 runs...... 90% they will get kick of track for no roll bar/belts/DS looper

So its pretty much been settled, NO!, a 400 rwhp F-body can't beat a stock C6 ZO6

Hell my car is lighter and has a over 70 more rwhp and 40-50 more rwtq then the F-bod being discussed and still couldn't outrun the MF'r, and I have been to 200 mph on 3 times. Maybe on a 150 to 200 topspeed race. LOL that will never happen.

So its pretty much been settled, NO!, a 400 rwhp F-body can't beat a stock C6 ZO6



Did you even read the thread?

[QUOTE=allngn_c5]So its pretty much been settled, NO!, a 400 rwhp F-body can't beat a stock C6 ZO6


You are right!!!!

You are right!!!!

How much money do you want to bet on that?

What's the best time for a stock C6 Z06?

What's the best time for any F-body making 400rwhp?

Exactly.

Let me shed some light here since I have a C6 Z06.

I have raced 500-525 rwhp LS1's (A4 & M6), 470+ rwhp C5s (FRC & Z06), 520+ rwhp 350Zs, etc., etc. and I have yet to lose a race.

From a dig, my FIRST time out ever with this car, on my FIRST pass, in 85* heat with lots of wheel hop in 1st and major granny shifting, the car went 11.69@121. The trap speed was so low becasue of the heat and not shifthing into 4th, which most peopel do. In cooler conditions, without wheel hop, and speed shifthing, this is EASILY an 11.4x sec car on the stock tires in bone stock trim.

So, can a 400 rwhp LS1 beat a C6 Z06 in the 1/4? It will all depend on what the 400 rwhp has done otherwise. If it is gutted, 4.10+ gears, slicks, A4, big ol stall, suspension work, etc..then yes, it probably can and will.

jmo..;)

No Offense But The Z06 Cars Are Very Over Rated And That 505 Is Not Rwhp Its Flywheel. And Id Take An F Body For 15k Over That Turd Of A Vette For 85 K All Day Long

ROFLMAO. The car weighs 400-500lbs LIGHTER and has 50-75rwhp more! Trainlengths! I count them. :jest:

The car is fast as balls off the showroom and you take it to the Nurburgring and it places in the top three in the elite company of $200,000+ exotic sports car. Wow!

It sure is a turd of a Vette. :cry:

C6 Z06 all the way!!

What's the best time for a stock C6 Z06?

What's the best time for any F-body making 400rwhp?

Exactly.


CC the fastest documented time so far for a stock down to the tires c6 z06 has been made by a forum member by the name of Ranger. 11.31 @ 127.5x mph. From what I read in the posts he talks about how the torque management makes it a real bitch to launch the thing. He was sporting 1.9x 60' times. That run was even recored in Postive Elevation (DA was 300 feet IIRC),

CC the fastest documented time so far for a stock down to the tires c6 z06 has been made by a forum member by the name of Ranger. 11.31 @ 127.5x mph. From what I read in the posts he talks about how the torque management makes it a real bitch to launch the thing. He was sporting 1.9x 60' times. That run was even recored in Postive Elevation (DA was 300 feet IIRC),

damn i dont see any cam only f-bodys running that!! and look at the mph 127mph!!!!!! a 400whp F-body will never even get close to that!

How much money do you want to bet on that?

i only see 112mph vs 127mph how do you think you would do?? You get a 400whp f-body real street car and the only thing you will beat him threw is 60ft and at around 1/8 mile mark they will fly buy bad

445whp vs 400hp even if you do have a light f-body still not lighter then the Z06

Yes you can beat one if the guy cant drive and thats the only way!!

i got a little over 400whp in a m6 car and i no i would get killed!!

Ouch this hurts!!! all stock! tires and all
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1884830295461616978&q=c6+z06

In the quarter-mile, given equal driving ability, will a 400rwhp f-body beat a stock C6 Z06?

This guy thinks so...


Didn't go through the entire post but....now way will the Z28 beat one. The Z06 driver would have to be a real dipshit to let it happen.


NO WAY.

damn i dont see any cam only f-bodys running that!! and look at the mph 127mph!!!!!! a 400whp F-body will never even get close to that!

You don't?

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187330



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Board ID - 1/4 ET @ MPH (60ft), Yr & Type of car, Trans, Converter/Clutch, Gear, Cam, DA, Race Weight, Date

Smokin01ta ---- 10.219@132.29 (1.38), 01 TA, M6, Spec4, 4.56, TRex, -1100, 3010, 3/06
LS1Joe----------10.232@132.04 (1.39), 02z28, M6, Spec4, 4.71, 250, -1100, 3150, 03/06
01-z------------10.295@128.48 (1.38), 01 z, Th400, 5500, 4.57, G5X4, -110,2880, 4/05
Magnus -------- 10.295@128.48 (1.36), 97brd, T350, 5500, 4.10,G5X4, +200, 2820, 4/05
Dragaholic-------10.340@127.46 (1.36), 00 SS, 350, 5500, 4.56, TRex, -700,

Very nice. (0wned)

I don't see why people think it's so crazy that an f-body can run 11's with 400Rwhp...Just because an f-body can beat a c6 Zo6 with 400Rwhp, doesn't mean the f-body is actually a *faster* car. Like i said earlier, it depends on that 60'. It's a 1/4 mile race. It's not like they are going from a roll, or to 160mph...

You don't?

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187330



Naturally Aspirated - CAM-ONLY :..

Board ID - 1/4 ET @ MPH (60ft), Yr & Type of car, Trans, Converter/Clutch, Gear, Cam, DA, Race Weight, Date

Smokin01ta ---- 10.219@132.29 (1.38), 01 TA, M6, Spec4, 4.56, TRex, -1100, 3010, 3/06
LS1Joe----------10.232@132.04 (1.39), 02z28, M6, Spec4, 4.71, 250, -1100, 3150, 03/06
01-z------------10.295@128.48 (1.38), 01 z, Th400, 5500, 4.57, G5X4, -110,2880, 4/05
Magnus -------- 10.295@128.48 (1.36), 97brd, T350, 5500, 4.10,G5X4, +200, 2820, 4/05
Dragaholic-------10.340@127.46 (1.36), 00 SS, 350, 5500, 4.56, TRex, -700,



What kind of dyno #s did they put down???

So its pretty much been settled, NO!, a 400 rwhp F-body can't beat a stock C6 ZO6

Hell my car is lighter and has a over 70 more rwhp and 40-50 more rwtq then the F-bod being discussed and still couldn't outrun the MF'r, and I have been to 200 mph on 3 times. Maybe on a 150 to 200 topspeed race. LOL that will never happen.
I agree with you allngn c5 hell you would blow his doors off :drive:

In the quarter-mile, given equal driving ability, will a 400rwhp f-body beat a stock C6 Z06?

This guy thinks so... the z06 is 4 or 500 pounds heavier. The new z06 tests over 450 at the wheels,
id say the z06 would whoop some ass, traction permitting

Better powerband on the Z06 means more time in lower gears. The Z06 has more power overall. The Z06 weighs less. The Z06 might have IRS, but it also has more weight over the rear wheel proportionally.


Z06 by a big big margin unless the F-Body has a seriously nice launch.

i've raced a few and blew their doors off, especially from a roll on, but i have a blower and cam that keep pulling all the way to the redline. then again i also have 508rwhp on the most terrible day possible to dyno. i'm guessing the c6 z06 would win but not by much. my roomate has a c5 z06 and those things are over-rated, trust me. ls1 f-body all the way!A C5 Z06 is absolutely nothing like a C6 Z06 and the LS6 (a hopped up LS1) is nothing like the LS7 (A detuned C6R engine for all intents and purposes). Corvettes are not meant to be drag cars but the very fact they trap almost 130 MPH stock says a lot about their acceleration capability. On the street a C6 Z06 would bitchslap a 400 RWHP F-body. I'd take a C6 Z06 over any f-body any day it's the superior machine. The F-body would have to be a dedicated drag car to make up for all the disadvantages it has compared to the vette and get a good run at 400 RWHP, and dedicated drag cars are no fun, especially on the street lol

400rwhp 4500 stalled auto f-body with 4.30's and stripped down and on a tire will beat a stock C6 Z06lol you're joking right? stripped down to what? It'd have to go down to 3000 lbs to stand a chance, and then you've got a crappy auto? Have you been in a Z06 while it's floored in 3rd gear? Quite possibly the hardest gear it pulls in, compared to the pathetic 3rd gear of the fbody, even with a huge stall and gears wouldn't be enough.

lol you're joking right? stripped down to what? It'd have to go down to 3000 lbs to stand a chance

Yeah it would probably need to be at 3000 raceweight.



and then you've got a crappy auto?

Now dem dere is fight'n words :jest: Do you realise that the quickest F-bodies are autos? The 7 and even 6 second LS1's use automatic transmissions so don't be calling automatics crappy around these here parts.

Have you been in a Z06 while it's floored in 3rd gear? Quite possibly the hardest gear it pulls in, compared to the pathetic 3rd gear of the fbody.

Pathetic third gear? Third gear is usually what everyone else is praising about the LS1 because of the fact that LS1's make good power higher up in the RPM range (compared to the LT1 before it). As long as the gears/stall/cam/tires were well thought out then an auto LS1 can and does have a very strong third gear.

even with a huge stall and gears wouldn't be enough.

On the street you are definately correct. At the track? Well this might be a different story. Most LS7 Z06's are running mid to upper 11's. Ranger is an excellent driver and I give mad props to him but the average guy launching and shifting a Z06 is gonna be upper 11's as opposed to lower 11's. That said, a 400 rwhp (through a big converter mind you) with a properly thought out suspension, gearing and tires can get very low 11's. They won't trap as high but they will cross the finish line first and in a drag race that's all that matters.

I beat a LS1 Vette at the track last month with a 12.5 @ 107 to his 12.6 @ 110. His car is faster (110 trap) but my car was quicker via my stall and drag radials. But I would still buy the vette if I could afford it :jest:

What kind of dyno #s did they put down???

I don't know, but I can guarantee you that at least one of the cars on that list with a lower ET than the C6 Z06 put down 400rwhp or less.

Winning a drag race is about a lot, lot more than dyno numbers.

I don't know, but I can guarantee you that at least one of the cars on that list with a lower ET than the C6 Z06 put down 400rwhp or less.

Winning a drag race is about a lot, lot more than dyno numbers.


I know. Was just curious...

I don't know, but I can guarantee you that at least one of the cars on that list with a lower ET than the C6 Z06 put down 400rwhp or less.

Winning a drag race is about a lot, lot more than dyno numbers.this is true. Weight, aerodynamics, and gearing all play into it, as well as usable powerband. The LS7 Z06 has an LS1 F-body, even a 400 RWHP one, beat in all these characteristics.

this is true. Weight, aerodynamics, and gearing all play into it, as well as usable powerband. The LS7 Z06 has an LS1 F-body, even a 400 RWHP one, beat in all these characteristics.


:bang:

Then why is it we have a long list of cam only F-bodies running 10's.....?

Did you read the thread before replying?

The descriptiong "400rwhp F-body" could mean many, many different cars in many different configurations...some of which could beat a C6 Z06 day and night. Most, of course, could not hope to win.

so the answer is technically, yes, a 400rwhp f-body could beat a stock C6 Z06. However, we all agree that the majority of 400rwhp f-bodies out there don't stand a FUCKING chance. so, even though the answer is technically yes, the majority rule says no. its kinda like asking, "could i be struck by lightning and killed today?" well, technically yes, allthough the majority rule will say no. a better question would be, " what is the chance that a 400rwhp f-body would beat a stock C6 Z06?"

A C5 Z06 is absolutely nothing like a C6 Z06 and the LS6 (a hopped up LS1) is nothing like the LS7 (A detuned C6R engine for all intents and purposes). Corvettes are not meant to be drag cars but the very fact they trap almost 130 MPH stock says a lot about their acceleration capability. On the street a C6 Z06 would bitchslap a 400 RWHP F-body. I'd take a C6 Z06 over any f-body any day it's the superior machine. The F-body would have to be a dedicated drag car to make up for all the disadvantages it has compared to the vette and get a good run at 400 RWHP, and dedicated drag cars are no fun, especially on the street lol

There it is in a Nutshell.
Why several pages of fuss?

If you read the first post and thread at LS2 I said you only need about 400rwhp to beat one, given the proper setup. This is not a false statment.

Not false, but you also need the proper conditions too...on a track it could happen, if you have a light ass f-body on slicks and skinnies, and the Z06 stays on street tires, but on the street, I really don't see that happening. My car, all said and done, has a little over 400rwhp and I know I wouldn't stand a chance from a roll.

I couldn't care less about roll racing. I also specified at a dragstrip, in the 1/4.

And quite a few of those cam only cars are daily driven.

You don't?

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187330



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Board ID - 1/4 ET @ MPH (60ft), Yr & Type of car, Trans, Converter/Clutch, Gear, Cam, DA, Race Weight, Date

Smokin01ta ---- 10.219@132.29 (1.38), 01 TA, M6, Spec4, 4.56, TRex, -1100, 3010, 3/06
LS1Joe----------10.232@132.04 (1.39), 02z28, M6, Spec4, 4.71, 250, -1100, 3150, 03/06
01-z------------10.295@128.48 (1.38), 01 z, Th400, 5500, 4.57, G5X4, -110,2880, 4/05
Magnus -------- 10.295@128.48 (1.36), 97brd, T350, 5500, 4.10,G5X4, +200, 2820, 4/05
Dragaholic-------10.340@127.46 (1.36), 00 SS, 350, 5500, 4.56, TRex, -700,




That is a LAME argument. Ls1Joe and Smokin01ta are both making easily over 450rwhp, and that is through a 9". I think it would take a GUTTED 3000lb racer car with at least a 4500stall and a transbrake to get a 400rwhp car to keep up with a STOCK C6 Z06.....sorry man, but is it possible a 400rwhp fbody can take a z06? yea.....maybe if the Z06 driver missed a gear. Even with the above mentioned stripped race fbody, it still would be an awesome race to watch.

Do not match up a race car like Ls1Joe or Smokin to a STOCK c6Z

No Offense But The Z06 Cars Are Very Over Rated And That 505 Is Not Rwhp Its Flywheel. And Id Take An F Body For 15k Over That Turd Of A Vette For 85 K All Day Long


umm just stop talking, please....

There it is in a Nutshell.
Why several pages of fuss?

agreed.

What's the best time for a stock C6 Z06?

What's the best time for any F-body making 400rwhp?

Exactly.


here ya go. check it out for yourself.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=ttO4gIlyq6E

if the c6 z06 has a crappy driver in it and a good driver is in the other car i think it would be really close but with both of them good drivers i think the z06 will win by about 2 to 3 cars.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=I6EiNFiLhV0&mode=related&search=

damn watch the speedo 2nd - 3rd that mothers showroom stock Imagine a th-400 with a 4500 stall and slicks with a 150shot 9's ? 1/4

that vid is hella bad, i love those cars maybe some day i will own one!!!

I am in the Corvette business and I own a f Body that makes over 400 RWHP ... I have been driving the C6 Z06 on a regular basis for about a year now. The Z06 will beat the F Body all day long and it will not be pretty...a stock C6 Z06 makes 450-460 RWHP and weighs 3137 lbs..my F Body with a half tank of gas weighs 3440. Enough said...a F body will need a lot more than 400 RWHP to run with the C6 Z06..it is just simple arithmatic..I am sure you guys are smart enought to figure it out ... all except for that one dude :devil: :jest:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=I6EiNFiLhV0&mode=related&search=

damn watch the speedo 2nd - 3rd that mothers showroom stock Imagine a th-400 with a 4500 stall and slicks with a 150shot 9's ? 1/4

505HP and your 2nd gear at 85mph? yeah the f-body is gonna win :jest:

2006 C6 Z06 runs 10.12 at 140 mph.....with the following mods...
Air-Charger, AR LT headers w/cats, 160* stat and tuning with the stock clutch. I recently added the F1 filter; C5 axles, Ram dual disk clutch and 100hp dry shot of NOS and retuning. Drag radials.

So, he only got two runs in that night, first time with the 100 shot. The car has beaders, 160 thermostat, air intake/filter kit, aftermarket clutch, drag radials, and a 100 pussy dry shot and it nearly ran 9's. It obviously will run 9's with a better launch/more track time.

Just food for thought (got from corvetteforum.com).....

Fuck, I need a new Z06...put on headers, air intake, 150 wet shot, and tune it....BAM 9's at 140+mph. Unreal.
SDB

doesn't change the fact that a c6z06 will go YARD on any 400rwhp f-body.

this sounds like the old LT1 vs LS1 threads.

:werd:

to answer your question....

NO... but mine did saturday night!!! took 500 horses to do it.

who cares about motor numbers you dyno racing pussys.

It is about the times. The ZO6 runs what? A mid-high 11 right?

So make your caqr faster than that. Fact is... your still not driving that pimp ass car that the guy next to you is...

who cares about motor numbers you dyno racing pussys.

It is about the times. The ZO6 runs what? A mid-high 11 right?

So make your caqr faster than that. Fact is... your still not driving that pimp ass car that the guy next to you is...
Z06's should run 11.2's to 11.6's.... no worse and only 2 shifts..... one at 60 and the other before the traps.