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Old 09-24-2006, 06:03 PM
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i have a 95 lt1 and i have been looking into getting a 02 ls1. my question is are they pretty much the same car except for the front nose and about a 1.5 second faster in the quater mile? would it be better to do a stroker swap in my 95 than to spend $$$$ on a 02 ls1?
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2 totally different cars lol
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Originally Posted by Tainted
2 totally different cars lol
explain
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HAHAHA its like comparing a cobra to a six banger mustang.... sure they look a like but totally different in too many ways
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Originally Posted by transamfreak01
HAHAHA its like comparing a cobra to a six banger mustang.... sure they look a like but totally different in too many ways
somehow i dont think they are quite that much different
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teh ls1 motor is completely different... you might as well compare the lt1 to a 10k rpm built honda k series. only similarity between a ls1 and a lt1 is cam in block and 8 cylinders.

if you already ahve a lt1, upgrade it...do a stroker.
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LT1 LS1
iron block All aluminum
opti-**** Coil packs
different A4 tranny peices
Intake manifolds
Cams
Heads
K-members
Motor mounts
Exhaust
Interior
Exterior
PCM's
Wiring
Brakes
Motor mounts
Manifolds
Intake style
Valvetrain

and a whole hell of a lot more
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its all relative. Compare an LT1 to an audi 1.8 and thats a lot more different than the LS1 and the LT1. Dont know if that made sense but they are both 5.7 liter V8's so the question is relative.
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Originally Posted by transamfreak01
HAHAHA its like comparing a cobra to a six banger mustang.... sure they look a like but totally different in too many ways
Oh really? Wanna compare?
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Everything is interchangible. Dash, console, seats, rear, tranny, wheels, exterior, taillights, hatchbacks, etc.
The driveline's are different.

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Some differences...

LS1/LT1

Aluminum/Iron block
346c.i./350c.i.
Normal/reverse flow coolant system
Coil on plug/optispark

Basicly they are completly different in just about every way.
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Originally Posted by burnzilla
Oh really? Wanna compare?
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Everything is interchangible. Dash, console, seats, rear, tranny, wheels, exterior, taillights, hatchbacks, etc.
The driveline's are different.
thats what i mean pretty much the same car same feel from behind the wheel except an extra 40hp. still a pushrod v8 just some upgraded features .i think dropping in a stroker motor is a better move than to spend $$$$$$$ for a ls1 car with only 40hp. gain. this way with the stroker it will be a real dramatic difference and it will really feel like a different car.
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Originally Posted by 98camaro1le
its all relative. Compare an LT1 to an audi 1.8 and thats a lot more different than the LS1 and the LT1. Dont know if that made sense but they are both 5.7 liter V8's so the question is relative.
thanks, thats what i was thinking except for drivetrain there is not all that much difference.
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Originally Posted by Tainted
LT1 LS1
iron block All aluminum
opti-**** Coil packs
different A4 tranny peices
Intake manifolds
Cams
Heads
K-members
Motor mounts
Exhaust
Interior
Exterior
PCM's
Wiring
Brakes
Motor mounts
Manifolds
Intake style
Valvetrain

and a whole hell of a lot more
yes but does any of that make it really a different car?if i buy a 02ss all i am really buying is a extra 40hp. they have many of the same problems crappy 10 bolt, weak 4l60e, bad window motors,etc.
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it has the same rear and both F bodies but its a whole different car, different engine, wiring, CPU, it would probally be cheaper to upgrade your LT1 b/c its older and probally cheaper then a 02 SS, its all a matter of what you like
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the lt1 engine is not "weak" at all. in modded form, the lt1 can be just as potent as the ls1. the stroker kit with the right heads and cam will give you more than enough power to put you in the low 12 range, and if that wont put a huge grin on your face then idk what will lol. from a comfort perspective though, most ls1's are going to be nicer because they are newer. finding a nice lt1 car is significantly harder than finding a nice ls1 car.
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Originally Posted by Starz T/A 17
it has the same rear and both F bodies but its a whole different car, different engine, wiring, CPU, it would probally be cheaper to upgrade your LT1 b/c its older and probally cheaper then a 02 SS, its all a matter of what you like
well i figure dollar for dollar i can get alot more speed from a stroker than to buy a 02 ls1. and i will most likely smoke modded ls1s!
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yea, probally once you get into stroker and bigger cams the whole LS1/LT1 argument becomes irrelivent b/c your basically replacing so much and usually gettin better heads and whatnot, but when you just add bolt-on's LS1>LT1 all day long
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Originally Posted by Sunset'01Z
the lt1 engine is not "weak" at all. in modded form, the lt1 can be just as potent as the ls1. the stroker kit with the right heads and cam will give you more than enough power to put you in the low 12 range, and if that wont put a huge grin on your face then idk what will lol. from a comfort perspective though, most ls1's are going to be nicer because they are newer. finding a nice lt1 car is significantly harder than finding a nice ls1 car.
i agree but i was thinking more of a stroker crate motor not a kit. my lt1 is in excellent cond. so thats why i questioned buying a ls1 and only have an extra 40hp.
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Originally Posted by LT1-DAN
thats what i mean pretty much the same car same feel from behind the wheel except an extra 40hp. still a pushrod v8 just some upgraded features .i think dropping in a stroker motor is a better move than to spend $$$$$$$ for a ls1 car with only 40hp. gain. this way with the stroker it will be a real dramatic difference and it will really feel like a different car.
Belive me, I've owned both, its alot more than a 40hp difference. Their powerband, and how they react to moddifications are completly different.

Its worth spending the extra money to start with an LS1.
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Originally Posted by Starz T/A 17
it has the same rear and both F bodies but its a whole different car, different engine, wiring, CPU, it would probally be cheaper to upgrade your LT1 b/c its older and probally cheaper then a 02 SS, its all a matter of what you like
jesus you people are unbelievable Its the same damn car! with a different nose with other differences differences that go along with having a different engine

who gives a **** about CPU and wiring differences the 98's had a different PCM from the later ls1 cars, the 93's had a different style of PCM compared to the later LT1's what difference does it make? like anything there are refinements over the years such as interior pieces but the point is its a 4th Gen F-body the parts are completely interchangable

completely different cars are 3rd Gens and 4th gens where the actual underpinnings of the car are different



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