can anyone explain these Z06 dyno numbers....
10-02-2006, 11:39 PM
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can anyone explain these Z06 dyno numbers.... this guy i know from the local car meet has the hptuners twin turbo kit on his completly stock 01-03(i cant remmeber which year) Z06, i told him that at the lowest psi, which is 6psi, he should be at 490-500RWHP, and that he should think about doing something to help his block out (6.0l heads, cam, springs etc) he says i dont know what im talkign about and says it makes way more power then that and that tons of people run 600RWHP+ on their stock blocks and never have problems, blah blah (hes one of those guys). well at this meet he say he "dynoed it" and said it made well more then 500RWHP, he says he is at 6psi and swears it, also he says he beat a camed 05 ZO6, is this possible???? or is he pushing more psi and risking his block and just not telling me....
10-03-2006, 07:29 AM
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500RWHP on 5-6 PSI is absolutely correct for an M/T car, I have seen it hundreds of times. I have also seen guys run considerably higher boost on stock bottom ends, with proper tuning, the factory LSx shortblock will live for a long time even under the harshest conditions.
The thing that made me laugh was that the guy beat an '05 cammed ZO6, I wasn't aware GM made any '05 ZO6's
Sounds like you and him are both saying the same thing, you can make good power on stock bottom end with a turbo, but you are right, if he ports the heads, and lowers compression, he could run more boost and make better power.
The thing that made me laugh was that the guy beat an '05 cammed ZO6, I wasn't aware GM made any '05 ZO6's
Sounds like you and him are both saying the same thing, you can make good power on stock bottom end with a turbo, but you are right, if he ports the heads, and lowers compression, he could run more boost and make better power.
10-03-2006, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed @ Late Model Speed
500RWHP on 5-6 PSI is absolutely correct for an M/T car, I have seen it hundreds of times. I have also seen guys run considerably higher boost on stock bottom ends, with proper tuning, the factory LSx shortblock will live for a long time even under the harshest conditions.
The thing that made me laugh was that the guy beat an '05 cammed ZO6, I wasn't aware GM made any '05 ZO6's
Sounds like you and him are both saying the same thing, you can make good power on stock bottom end with a turbo, but you are right, if he ports the heads, and lowers compression, he could run more boost and make better power.
The thing that made me laugh was that the guy beat an '05 cammed ZO6, I wasn't aware GM made any '05 ZO6's
Sounds like you and him are both saying the same thing, you can make good power on stock bottom end with a turbo, but you are right, if he ports the heads, and lowers compression, he could run more boost and make better power.
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10-03-2006, 10:34 AM
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Twin turbos and only 6psi ? 
Jeez, why bother.
"Yeah, I just installed my new outrageously expensive nitrous system. I have the 25 shot jets in there".
That being said, the hp number sounds about right for a Z06 on a 6psi turbo setup. Turbos make more power at a lower PSI than supercharged cars because of parasitic loss spinning the blower, and the Z06 is starting out with ~360rwhp, right ?
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Jeez, why bother.
"Yeah, I just installed my new outrageously expensive nitrous system. I have the 25 shot jets in there".
That being said, the hp number sounds about right for a Z06 on a 6psi turbo setup. Turbos make more power at a lower PSI than supercharged cars because of parasitic loss spinning the blower, and the Z06 is starting out with ~360rwhp, right ?
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10-03-2006, 11:33 AM
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yea the '02 and up make about 360-370rwhp mayyybe stock...close to 400rwhp with several bolt ons and a nice tune n/a.. so yea i dont think 500 would be too much of a problem..but 'WAY more than 500' sounds weird on only 5-6 psi even on a Zo6...but anythings possible maybe be cranks it up alil and makes himself "think" it stays at 5-6psi and thats what he tells pple 
but anyways yea ive seen more than enough of these LSx motors hold in the 600rwhp range, you just have to take care of it and not abuse anything too bad and make sure the tune is the best in the world practically...i remember seeing a turbo trans am on a stock block go into the 700's to the wheels, not saying that it will last much but it did get there... 
(yea i know)
but anyways yea ive seen more than enough of these LSx motors hold in the 600rwhp range, you just have to take care of it and not abuse anything too bad and make sure the tune is the best in the world practically...i remember seeing a turbo trans am on a stock block go into the 700's to the wheels, not saying that it will last much but it did get there... (yea i know)
10-03-2006, 02:05 PM
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The car already has a cam that works well with FI, so it's POSSIBLE... Only one way to tell though. He had called you out, remember? 
I dunno, I suspect that if he dyno'd his car somewhere else, it MIGHT be a little lower... It doesn't seem like he knew too much about his car judging from his posts, but who knows? Some people REALLY just couldn't write a coherent thought if their life depended on it. Maybe he does know... I would like to run him.
I dunno, I suspect that if he dyno'd his car somewhere else, it MIGHT be a little lower... It doesn't seem like he knew too much about his car judging from his posts, but who knows? Some people REALLY just couldn't write a coherent thought if their life depended on it. Maybe he does know... I would like to run him.
10-03-2006, 02:51 PM
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The car already has a cam that works well with FI, so it's POSSIBLE... Only one way to tell though. He had called you out, remember?
I dunno, I suspect that if he dyno'd his car somewhere else, it MIGHT be a little lower... It doesn't seem like he knew too much about his car judging from his posts, but who knows? Some people REALLY just couldn't write a coherent thought if their life depended on it. Maybe he does know... I would like to run him.
I dunno, I suspect that if he dyno'd his car somewhere else, it MIGHT be a little lower... It doesn't seem like he knew too much about his car judging from his posts, but who knows? Some people REALLY just couldn't write a coherent thought if their life depended on it. Maybe he does know... I would like to run him.
10-03-2006, 02:57 PM
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Alot of people with the A&A SC kit are making 550ish rwhp. I dont see why a TT kit wouldnt beable to make the same or more. But I have been told by many shops after you cross that 550rwhp with the LS6 it wont last for a long time.
And a 01 Z06 is 385hp, 02-04 is 405hp, 06+ is 505hp. TT Z06 vs Cammed Z06 uhhhh duh, the TT will win easy. A cammed 04 with bolt ons will only make low 400s i think.
And a 01 Z06 is 385hp, 02-04 is 405hp, 06+ is 505hp. TT Z06 vs Cammed Z06 uhhhh duh, the TT will win easy. A cammed 04 with bolt ons will only make low 400s i think.
10-03-2006, 03:04 PM
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Alot of people with the A&A SC kit are making 550ish rwhp. I dont see why a TT kit wouldnt beable to make the same or more. But I have been told by many shops after you cross that 550rwhp with the LS6 it wont last for a long time.
And a 01 Z06 is 385hp, 02-04 is 405hp, 06+ is 505hp. TT Z06 vs Cammed Z06 uhhhh duh, the TT will win easy. A cammed 04 with bolt ons will only make low 400s i think.
And a 01 Z06 is 385hp, 02-04 is 405hp, 06+ is 505hp. TT Z06 vs Cammed Z06 uhhhh duh, the TT will win easy. A cammed 04 with bolt ons will only make low 400s i think.
10-03-2006, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 2002/Black/SS
a cammed 04 is way into the high *** 400s, also im not saying it couldnt win, just that could it win on 6PSI
A 2004 Z06 is the same as the 2002 Z06. They both have the same motor.
Headers, Intake, Tune, ect... will net 400rwhp. Cam will net around 420ish I would think. Heads cam cars are at around 470.
Now a 2006 Z06 (new body style) with bolts on and a cam will net over 500.
How could a cam and bolt on only LS6 beat a TT LS6. Not possible.
10-03-2006, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Chrisrokc
lol, go learn your cars man.
A 2004 Z06 is the same as the 2002 Z06. They both have the same motor.
Headers, Intake, Tune, ect... will net 400rwhp. Cam will net around 420ish I would think. Heads cam cars are at around 470.
Now a 2006 Z06 (new body style) with bolts on and a cam will net over 500.
How could a cam and bolt on only LS6 beat a TT LS6. Not possible.
A 2004 Z06 is the same as the 2002 Z06. They both have the same motor.
Headers, Intake, Tune, ect... will net 400rwhp. Cam will net around 420ish I would think. Heads cam cars are at around 470.
Now a 2006 Z06 (new body style) with bolts on and a cam will net over 500.
How could a cam and bolt on only LS6 beat a TT LS6. Not possible.
10-03-2006, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 2002/Black/SS
sorry i meant a 05 z06 typo, i know my cars not my years
GM didn't make a 2005 Z06. Not till 2006 with the C6 body style. "IF" he's running 6psi, I bet he is around 520-550rwhp but no more a 6psi...Should beat a cammed 2006 Z06 just barely...My buddy has a cammed/header 2006 Z06 and he runs 11.5@126mph on street tires...
At say 10psi he should be around 600rwhp though...
10-03-2006, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chriswtx
GM didn't make a 2005 Z06. Not till 2006 with the C6 body style. "IF" he's running 6psi, I bet he is around 520-550rwhp but no more a 6psi...Should beat a cammed 2006 Z06 just barely...My buddy has a cammed/header 2006 Z06 and he runs 11.5@126mph on street tires...
At say 10psi he should be around 600rwhp though...
At say 10psi he should be around 600rwhp though...
10-03-2006, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by chriswtx
GM didn't make a 2005 Z06. Not till 2006 with the C6 body style. "IF" he's running 6psi, I bet he is around 520-550rwhp but no more at 6psi......