Western Members - Cam's in Cali....

Hey, im finally going to do the cam...
But i am in between a 228 duration and a 224 duration (basically because that is all that will pass smog in California, am i right?)
Any of the California guys know if a 228 duration cam will pass smog for sure, i am positive that a 224 will but i would love to go bigger than that...
Anyone know if i can and still pass smog?

Smog? What's that ? :naughty:

ya i guess there is no such thing if you don't live in FAG CALIFORNIA

can you believe the LT4 hotcam isnt legal here.

i laugh at the enviornment

I think a 224 is as big as you can go.

shit, so the TSP 228 R has no chance?

shit, so the TSP 228 R has no chance?
well what lsa is it on, i have seen a old mms 229 cam on 114 pass with a good tune, i would say if you cam is on a 114 and has a good tune you should pass

228 is basically the largest you can go... like said depending on a the lsa and the tune

soooo

224 with 112 lsa will pass?

228 with 112 lsa definately won't pass?

I think a 224 is as big as you can go.


I've passed a test on a 229

soooo

224 with 112 lsa will pass?
yes with a basic tune


228 with 112 lsa definately won't pass?
it's on the edge of passing... with a damn good tune

calculate overlap, if it's positive you're screwed. generally tho, a real tune is the key

soooo

224 with 112 lsa will pass?

228 with 112 lsa definately won't pass?
224 on a 112 should pass ( good tune)
228 on a 112 i dont think it will, unless you run alcohol in the tank, and drive the shit out of before you get there, and get the cats molten hot

224-230 and I passed smog, barely.

224-230 and I passed smog, barely.

I passed with the same cam a wile ago but barely.

can you believe the LT4 hotcam isnt legal here.

i laugh at the enviornment

Mine passed, with a tune!

alright, im a little confused about installing...how hard is it, more like how easy is it to fuck up??? Cause i called about someone at a shop installing a cam for me, and he said $2500-3000...is that a legit price range?

i know that with a tune

but summit says on the package that it cannot be shipped to CA

but it got here...

maybe a gearhead took the order

Mine passed, with a tune!

how hard is it to install a cam?

alright, im a little confused about installing...how hard is it, more like how easy is it to fuck up??? Cause i called about someone at a shop installing a cam for me, and he said $2500-3000...is that a legit price range?Yeah dude, thats the going rate, but I'll do it for $1500. :)











Seriously, call someone else cause the crack they're smoking has fucked them up big time.

shit man, am i gonna be able to do this without fucking shit up?

ls1howto.com is the main guide everyone uses... not really all that hard as you may think if you've worked on your car before

I just did a cam install, it's not hard but does take time. me and three very lazy friends did it in seven hours, but don't cam it if you can't pay to have it tunned. I am having to sell stuff now to get money for a tune, but here is a list of tools that will make the job not so bad (not all the tools just the ones someguys dont have)

1/2 air drive impact (for lower pully)

3 arm pully puller

crane cams valve spring tool (this tool is the best)

clyender compresser (sorry I cant spell, screws in the spark plug hole)

a tool to push the pully on, or like I did a big hammer and a 2x4

very important go to auto store and get some small brake line (hard metal line), you need two of them both a little longer than the cam, these are to slide in the holes to hold the lifters up.

I think thats it

most shops when i called wanted 1000 for an install

so i have the cam picked out, but i have no idea how to install, so here come the dumb questions....Cherry picker? dont you have to take the engine out to do all this shit... and if i have done very little on cars is it a bad idea to do this myself? i have an uncle who is going to help me, he is a mechanic so do you guys think that just through internet guides and books we can do this without ruining anything?

o ya how much to get a good ass tune?

i know that with a tune

but summit says on the package that it cannot be shipped to CA

but it got here...

maybe a gearhead took the order

Actually i got mine NIB off ebay...

how was the install? you put in new bearings?

Actually i got mine NIB off ebay...

price of a tune anyone

many people including myself can do their first cam swap based on internet guides.... around $500 for a good dyno tune

how was the install? you put in new bearings?

Cam went in when the motor was rebuilt two years ago, so all new parts were used

if my 5 year old nephew can do a cam install, you can too. you should smog it first and then do the cam

so i have the cam picked out, but i have no idea how to install, so here come the dumb questions....Cherry picker? dont you have to take the engine out to do all this shit... and if i have done very little on cars is it a bad idea to do this myself? i have an uncle who is going to help me, he is a mechanic so do you guys think that just through internet guides and books we can do this without ruining anything?


where are you at, if you need some help just let me know

I just did a cam install, it's not hard but does take time. me and three very lazy friends did it in seven hours, but don't cam it if you can't pay to have it tunned. I am having to sell stuff now to get money for a tune, but here is a list of tools that will make the job not so bad (not all the tools just the ones someguys dont have)

1/2 air drive impact (for lower pully)

3 arm pully puller

crane cams valve spring tool (this tool is the best)

clyender compresser (sorry I cant spell, screws in the spark plug hole)

a tool to push the pully on, or like I did a big hammer and a 2x4

very important go to auto store and get some small brake line (hard metal line), you need two of them both a little longer than the cam, these are to slide in the holes to hold the lifters up.

I think thats it
:stupid: yea.... and a full day to give yourself plenty of time to :chug: afterwords :devil:

224-230 and I passed smog, barely.
barely because, look who is tuning it :jest:

I pased with 234/242 112lsa. :confused:

god damn...i just talked to my tuner and he said i wouldn't be able to pass with a TSP 228R 112 :cry: which was what i was hoping for...so i guess im going with a 224/224 112 :( california sucks

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Thunder-Racing-Custom-Cam-LS1-224-224_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ107063QQihZ013QQite mZ230040025734QQrdZ1

If I were to buy this cam would I be able to pass smog and how much hp gain would I be looking at with a good tune? Would I need to mod anything else like the heads? Thanks for the help. I love this site.

cams???? your not allowed to have cams in california you have to hire leperchans to open and close the valves

we have them, theyre called roller lifters. just paint em green.

cams???? your not allowed to have cams in california you have to hire leperchans to open and close the valves