View Full Version : Saturn takes LT1s lunch


DietCoke
10-29-2006, 09:44 PM
Raced a stock (well, exhaust if that counts) LT1 in the saturn tonight from a slow (35) roll. Man, I cant believe how slow those things are stock. I put at least 5-7 cars on him to 100. Miss my LT1... almost running again. Almost. Anyway, he deserved to lose. He had altezzas.

9s@145 or bust!

BRIAN98Z28
10-29-2006, 09:50 PM
I don't think its necessarily a matter of them being slow stock, but rather that most LT1s these days unfortunately are tired, ragged out, or just not running in top condition. I drove my '93 A4 Z28 to a best of 13.7@103mph bone stock back in the day. Good kill none the less....Altezzas....hehehehe, rice boy. :jest:

1999 SS
10-29-2006, 10:55 PM
altezza's on an f-body :wrist: sad

burnzilla
10-29-2006, 11:37 PM
I don't think its necessarily a matter of them being slow stock, but rather that most LT1s these days unfortunately are tired, ragged out, or just not running in top condition. jest:
That has to be one of the most un-intelligent things about an LT1 I have ever read.

My LT1 when it was stock ran high 13's, and it had over 100K.
Its not the car, its the people who drive and take care of it.

LT1's are strong engines that usually hit 150,000+ miles with minimal maintenence. Many have cleared 200-250K... and I mean many.
If your mid 14 second car beat an LT1, I would be happy too.
And put some better rubber on that Saturn!
______
Good Kill.

Iron Sights
10-29-2006, 11:45 PM
Have you guys seen his trap speed? That would put him well into the 13s with traction, and is more than enough to drag a stock LT1.

camzaro28
10-30-2006, 01:21 AM
yeah 105 trap. i am going to have to keep a close eye on these cars. impressive

MillaTK
10-30-2006, 08:05 AM
That has to be one of the most un-intelligent things about an LT1 I have ever read.



... ... ... :jest: I'd read your post over again.

burnzilla
10-30-2006, 08:30 AM
... ... ... :jest: I'd read your post over again.
My statement was in response to the longetivity of the engine.
As far as the race, that trap speed is enough to hand it to many LT1's/LS1's.

BRIAN98Z28
10-30-2006, 09:08 AM
Burnzilla.......you may want to RE-READ my post. My statement was in no way a reflection of the longevity or lifespan of the motor, but rather if you do not take care of a car, especially an older car with higher miles, the performance of the vehicle WILL suffer. That is a FACT. I built and raced LT1s for MANY years, I know what they are, and what they are NOT. Yes, they are strong engines.....I knew plenty of people spraying 150 shots on them at 150,000 miles, and mine had 145,000 on it when I sold it and ran like a CHAMP. The simple FACT remains though, that if you do not take care of the car, and keep up with the maintenance....it is NOT going to perform in top condition...I don't care WHAT motor it is.

"Most ridiculous thing you've ever read".........I think not my friend. :eyes:

LS1 Eddie
10-30-2006, 02:39 PM
I don't think its necessarily a matter of them being slow stock, but rather that most LT1s these days unfortunately are tired, ragged out, or just not running in top condition.

Not mine. :devil:

qwikz28
10-30-2006, 02:46 PM
times of my saturn in sig:lol:

nice kill man

burnzilla
10-30-2006, 02:47 PM
I know what they are, and what they are NOT. Yes, they are strong engines
I agree.

but rather that most LT1s these days unfortunately are tired, ragged out, or just not running in top condition

You said most of them . I think you meant to say, "most of the poorly taken care of LT1's."
But for the most part you are correct... most of them are beat pretty good because they are easy to afford and their market attraction is younger males.

Sorry for the mixup...

MillaTK
10-30-2006, 03:29 PM
I agree.



You said most of them . I think you meant to say, "most of the poorly taken care of LT1's."
But for the most part you are correct... most of them are beat pretty good because they are easy to afford and their market attraction is younger males.

Sorry for the mixup...

I think he meant to say exactly what he meant to say. Most LT1's these days do seem to be tired, ragged out, etc, which is due to being poorly taken care of. Either way it doesn't really matter, it seems everyone is in agreeance now.


Nice kill to the OP :cheers:

BRIAN98Z28
10-30-2006, 03:48 PM
Yup to both of you, I don't see too many LT1s around these days....and the ones I do see are generally a sight for sore eyes. I can now understand why I see kill stories of lesser cars beating up on basically stock LT1s. :( Makes me sad....that is the first car I really had as my own growing up and got into modding and building. They just aren't getting any younger, and not a lot of people give them the good care/maintenance that they deserve. I hate to see them getting a bad wrap as these "slow" "turds" because they certainly AREN'T if taken care of. :drive:

~Brian

DietCoke
10-30-2006, 06:10 PM
My 14.4 pass was with some serious clutch and traction issues. I had a 2.66 60'.

Sad, but true. It's a highway monster for now until i can afford some axles, a clutch and some tires.

sdm1234
10-30-2006, 07:18 PM
LT1s are getting to be quite a rarity these days. i get many compliments whenever i bring my LT1 places, whether it be the mall, or people's houses, or parties, or whatever... it feels good that the ol' LT1s are still accepted into the racer society. they're not THAT slow from the factory. they lack slightly, but nothing a little TLC can't fix...

06cobaltSS
10-30-2006, 08:19 PM
LT1s are getting to be quite a rarity these days. i get many compliments whenever i bring my LT1 places, whether it be the mall, or people's houses, or parties, or whatever... it feels good that the ol' LT1s are still accepted into the racer society. they're not THAT slow from the factory. they lack slightly, but nothing a little TLC can't fix...

or a supercharger

JimboManJones
10-30-2006, 08:27 PM
I trapped 103.8 with a 2.2 60' with just a CAI exhaust and electric water pump, no way would 2 mph equal 5-7 car lengths, unless your talking matchbox car lengths...

Good kill though

DietCoke
10-30-2006, 09:01 PM
I trapped 103.8 with a 2.2 60' with just a CAI exhaust and electric water pump, no way would 2 mph equal 5-7 car lengths, unless your talking matchbox car lengths...

Good kill though

It is what it is. Street racing isnt scientific. MY car trapped 78 in the 1/8 and 105 in the 1/4. Thats a 27 mph gain, you figure out what traction does for me. :)

ls1wannabe
10-30-2006, 09:34 PM
i trapped 85 in the 1/8th in my slobalt with a 2.6 60ft but only 105 in the 1/4 clutch was slipping as well.

93Zdriver
11-01-2006, 11:51 AM
Raced a stock (well, exhaust if that counts) LT1 in the saturn tonight from a slow (35) roll. Man, I cant believe how slow those things are stock. I put at least 5-7 cars on him to 100. Miss my LT1... almost running again. Almost. Anyway, he deserved to lose. He had altezzas.

9s@145 or bust!
you just raced a ragged lt1, mine has over 140,000 miles with just an just minor boltons and i laid about 2 busses on an 06 cobalt ss s/c by 75 mph from a 10 roll. Now my results arnt common results, but neither are yours. My buddy with a stock 96 3.8 camaro raced a redline on the interstate from a 40 roll, and the ion won by 1 1/2 carlengths at about 110 mph. The ion had suspension and exhaust. So :engarde: im not that impressed by those cars.

ls1wannabe
11-01-2006, 01:30 PM
what do you consider minor bolt ons?

erskine
11-01-2006, 02:44 PM
good kill, atleast everone isnt knocken ur car unlike mine. some good parts to buy stuff for the ion is at zzperformance.com

look at this kill
http://videos.mistreetscene.org/search/erskine/0/6ace4e51-72d8-4fb1-99cd-7285c0f71249.htm

Dragframe
11-01-2006, 03:15 PM
you just raced a ragged lt1, mine has over 140,000 miles with just an just minor boltons and i laid about 2 busses on an 06 cobalt ss s/c by 75 mph from a 10 roll. Now my results arnt common results, but neither are yours. My buddy with a stock 96 3.8 camaro raced a redline on the interstate from a 40 roll, and the ion won by 1 1/2 carlengths at about 110 mph. The ion had suspension and exhaust. So :engarde: im not that impressed by those cars.

i did that to a 06 Cobalt SS/Sc with lsd when i was STOCK

the lt1 aint that slow!

Automaticfastic
11-01-2006, 03:16 PM
I dount have sound on my comp, but that was not even a race from a stop.

DietCoke
11-02-2006, 04:16 PM
you just raced a ragged lt1, mine has over 140,000 miles with just an just minor boltons and i laid about 2 busses on an 06 cobalt ss s/c by 75 mph from a 10 roll. Now my results arnt common results, but neither are yours. My buddy with a stock 96 3.8 camaro raced a redline on the interstate from a 40 roll, and the ion won by 1 1/2 carlengths at about 110 mph. The ion had suspension and exhaust. So :engarde: im not that impressed by those cars.

Uncommon results? A 105+mph car beating a sub 100 mph car is uncommon?


Kay. :drive:


He would have had a chance from a stop. Bad business from a roll.

JimboManJones
11-02-2006, 04:23 PM
Roll racing is for ricers anyway, races are supposed to go from a dead stop

DietCoke
11-02-2006, 04:55 PM
Roll racing is for ricers anyway, races are supposed to go from a dead stop

Explain roll racing is for ricers :jest:

93Zdriver
11-03-2006, 11:31 AM
what do you consider minor bolt ons?
intake, flowmaster muffler, airfoil, tbbypass

93Zdriver
11-03-2006, 11:33 AM
Uncommon results? A 105+mph car beating a sub 100 mph car is uncommon?


Kay. :drive:


He would have had a chance from a stop. Bad business from a roll.
no 2 buslengths probably isnt typical. his best chances would be from a roll compared to a stop

DietCoke
11-03-2006, 04:57 PM
no 2 buslengths probably isnt typical. his best chances would be from a roll compared to a stop

How do you figure that? I'm not going to spin from a roll, and he will spin a whole lot less then I would from a stop. Roll race is car and driver. Stop race is car and driver and suspension/traction. I know he's got me on the last two :) Keep in mind I was talking about me in my last post, not you. No way your car is going to trap 105 with those mods, even in texas :jest: