FastKat

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Sorry to be that guy, but I wanted some different opinions...

I really like what I see with the Incon kits but I don't want to pay the big bucks for Garret GT series turbos. I think something between the GT28 and GT35 is what I am looking for... maybe closer to the GT35. What are some cheaper alternatives??? Internal or external gate is okay. I expect to land in the 600-700rwhp area. After a long break it's time to start packaging into the engine bay so I need the turbos.

I have an 346ci HPE forged 8.5:1 shortblock,317 heads, stock cam, valvetrain, iron manifolds, etc. Heavy street car, good driveability and tire smoking torque is a must. Don't want to go over 6k RPMs because of my stock 4L80E and probably want to stick to a 2 bar setup if I can.

Thanks in advance! -Dave

cablebandit

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something like a gt3076...except non ball bearing should do the trick

FastKat

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Yes, something like that except at a lower cost, probably a conventional bearing. Any suggestions?

~JOSHUA

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Even though I own an Incon kit I don't know everything about turbos, but I do know one thing about life... most of the time you get what you pay for.

Cutting the cost on the cartridges is like putting a band-aid on a car wreck.... you really can't effect a final goal if the understanding isn't firm at the start. You have to plan on spending whatever it takes, why not get a nice, long lasting ball bearing turbo set-up as opposed to the cheapest possible?

From experience I can tell you that with Forced Induction, you just need to keep feeding $money$ into that bottomless pit until the car is burning rubber in 4th gear.

FastKat

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Haha yea I see what you are saying but you have to draw the line somewhere, right? I sprung for the HPE shortblock with fogred Diamond pistons but used a lower grade forged I-beam rod and a brand spankin new GM cast crank... why? Because that's all I really needed for this project. If I was building a 1,200rwhp 8,000rpm drag car I would have spent the extra cash.

I'm not really looking for the cheapest out there... I'm looking for the most bang for the buck. I would love a set of ball bearing turbos, but I'll be happy with quality piece that will do the job 90% as well for half the price. Plus I'm about to put a few turbo's on my girlfriend's finger.... agh it's always something!!!

joffa

http://www.otomoto.com.au/kkrturbo.htm <--- Prices are in $AU

DrTurbo

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I know we had some units that were around 499 each and would support around 450+ hp each.

chuntington101

well i still love the GT35R's on a LS1. but they are costly. i think T60 or 61 should see you into the 1000bhp area and should be cheaper than GT35s. im i right or miles off?????

thanks Chris.

PS. there might be a few Ex STS turbos knocking about you could use!!!

FastKat

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Cool... is the KKR turbo the old KKK brand turbo?

joffa

Dunno man all I know is there used on one of the LS1 turbo kits from down here and I haven't heard anybody say anything bad about them.

FastKat

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Nice, what model and brand? Specs? I would also prefer a water-cooled center section if possible.

DrTurbo

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No, KKR's are just some generic brand. KKK is now owner by Borg Warner, which some of the KKK parts are now being used on some of the S-series units. KKK stuff though is the most $$$ in the market. They have some of the big compressor wheels that go for over 1500 just for the wheel!!!!!!!

psifreak

i would do twin pt61s or pt66.. the pt66 is 1075 a piece....

psifreak

on twin pt66s you can make 650-750 on pump

FastKat

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Would a T04 or a T04E get me where I want to be... which is about 800hp at the crank? It seems that's a less expensive variety. Something on the phsyically small size would be nice too because my engine bay is filling up fast!

SonofaBish

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I'm very intersted in this as well.... hopefully we can get some good responses. I have been doing some reasearch, and i'm looking to make very similar power numbers as you, on a budget TT system (possibly a single of twins are too $$). I want a 99% street monster as well, thus wanting two small turbos so they will spool quicky. I think chuntington101 was right about a T60 or T61, for i've found that these would be a good choice... I would like to know why the turbos on ebay are so darn cheap. Brand new turbos from the website of a company that put a lot on ebay are in the area of $400, which is nowhere near the cost of a true GT35, etc., so what's teh deal with these turbos and what are you risking with them?

Willem @ Fuel Injection Concepts

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just get some p trim turbos, about the same as GT35

joffa

The KKR turbo's are water cooled aswell.

AVB

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Would these work for ya? The replacements are due in any day and I've got these off and ready for shipment.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...&highlight=t44

onfire

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A To4B with a 53mm inducer a 71mm exducer and a 0.86AR turbine housing with a 54mm inducer is about the smallest you can go for a twin set-up for 800 crank. A To4E will take the power on up.