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Old 11-07-2006, 12:12 PM
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Hi, I am new to this forum. i was wondering what need to be done to a stock 98-01 Ls1 to get it to pump out 400RWHP?will bolts ons do it or ill need to get internals as well?
Old 11-07-2006, 12:16 PM
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im pretty sure bolt ons will do it...but im new myself
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haha no bolts on will def. do it.....depends on your definition of bolt on though....you can bolt on a turbo or supercharger...
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haha no bolts on will def. do it.....depends on your definition of bolt on though....you can bolt on a turbo or supercharger...
more lke Cams/bigger TB,headers, and some dyno tuning.
Let say i want to keep the $$$ as low as i can.
the common mod ive seen people talk about on this board is the LS6 intake. how much hp does that give and is it direct bolt on?
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Headers..Y pipe...Catback...lid...nitrous(50-75shot)

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Headers..Y pipe...catback..lid..Cam(230/230+)

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Catback...nitrous(100-150shot)
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Yes, all bolts ons and a nice cam like the MS3 or T-rex will get you to 400rwhp. But a nice set of heads to go along with those cams can be evil, pure evil
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Originally Posted by LS1E30
more lke Cams/bigger TB,headers, and some dyno tuning.
Let say i want to keep the $$$ as low as i can.
the common mod ive seen people talk about on this board is the LS6 intake. how much hp does that give and is it direct bolt on?
only one cam
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Cheapest way to 400rwhp is headers, lid, and a big-*** cam w/dyno tune.
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Originally Posted by WhiteKnightZ28
Cheapest way to 400rwhp is headers, lid, and a big-*** cam w/dyno tune.
+1, get pacesetter coated LT's, ory, cutout, ls6 intake manifold, ported TB, 25% underdrive pulley, and a pretty big cam with dual valvesprings, titanium retainers, and hardened pushrods and you will be making close to if not more than 400 rwhp. Cam I would go with for that power would be a g5x3 or ms3.
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Originally Posted by WhiteKnightZ28
Cheapest way to 400rwhp is headers, lid, and a big-*** cam w/dyno tune.
wat is a lid?

Forgot that only had a cam.
will i need to change anything when installin a cam? or it jst a drop in.
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I would say that you will need a lid, intake, TB, headers, exhaust, a good cam and a tune. How will be looking at some money for all of these so I hope you got deep pockets if you plan on doing this all at once. Now dont quote me on this but for about 2400 to 3000 you can probably do all the above. Please correct me if im wrong. I would just get the best right now so you dont have to worry about upgrading later. Talk to some speed shops as well. that might help. Sponsor forum
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Im not really experienced in the cam department but the lid is the cover that goes over your air filter and runs to the throttle body. Its usually the first thing that is replaced b/c it allows better air flow the engine.
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As has been said, bolt ons and a cam. A cam is not usually considered a bolton part. Valve springs and pushrods are needed along with the cam. Also, you are going to need a good tune after the cam install to get everything working smoothly, with a healthy cam and a good tune, 400RWHP is possible, but its going to take a good sized cam to do so.
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cheapest way is just nitrous....plain and simple...500-800$ for a 100-150 kit..and your looking at 375-425 rwhp...

add a catback for 300-600 for tone and a bit more hp..385-435rwhp..
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Originally Posted by LS1E30
more lke Cams/bigger TB,headers, and some dyno tuning.
Let say i want to keep the $$$ as low as i can.
the common mod ive seen people talk about on this board is the LS6 intake. how much hp does that give and is it direct bolt on?
yea its a direct bolt on.....you can port it to and get more out of it
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If you run nitrous I would recommend a tune so you do not hurt anything depending on how often you would use it.
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i really dont recomend doing with nitrous ....bolt ons is the best way to start off ...headers, exhaust, lid (more less though as a intake ),ls6 intake manifold, and ported throttle body ..then maybe a tune ...thats the best way to get a good start......and then if you want to spend some money heads and cam .......my motor which was in my buddies car before i bought...it got 438 rwhp with kooks headers, texas speed heads and cam set,ls6 intake w/the bbk throttle body , and slp lid ...it was also tuned by one of our good friends on the street not on the dyno.......yes nitrous is the cheapest and easy way out there ...but it can cause long term damage if not used correctly ....nitrous can be very safe but also can be very dangerous for your motor .....i suggest if you go with nitrous really check into first...trust me i had nitrous on a few cars and i'm going to put it on my new motor but if your new to this try to stay away from nitrous

but thats just my feelings on the subject other may think different ...it all in how much you want to spend and what you want

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Originally Posted by LS1E30
wat is a lid?

Forgot that only had a cam.
will i need to change anything when installin a cam? or it jst a drop in.
Read my post above, you will need at a minimum comp 918's, but if you go with a bigger cam with a lot of lift then id suggest dual valve springs. In addition you will need hardened pushrods and id suggest getting some titanium retainers. Other than that you will need a good dynotune after the install to make the car idle properly and make the most power possible. A lid is a piece of plastic that replaces the stock facory air box cover. All lids are equal in performance as well so you dont need to buy the most expensive one out there, pretty much any one will do.
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_ If you have no experience with nitrous, or don't know someone who does....I wouldn't without a doubt in my mind recommend it, very very easy to mess up with it. As they say "you spray, you pay"

_ Bolt ons and Cam/tune route is a much safer way imo. Except if you are looking for daily drivability, you can kiss your gas mileage goodbye!!!

_ However, if you are looking for a 400hp daily driver....you might want to look into perhaps getting a turbo, but you will need fuel upgrades and a tune. Alot of people using turbos seem to retain their stock gas mileage and stock drivibility when they >>>>>>DON'T HIT THE GAS<<<<<<< from my experience.


hope this helps!!
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I saw 422 RWHP with just a few things:

-MTI lid
-Pacesetter Headers
-True Duals
-and a G5X3 cam with a tune

Obviously you dont have to go with True Duals on the exhaust, and if you are going to put in a cam, you will have to change out the Springs. But the price on those vary depending on what kind of cam you go with.

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