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Old 11-08-2006, 10:03 AM
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Trying to figure out what all areas/places ARP bolts/studs are needed throughout the engine.

Of course, when you buy a set of connecting rods, they come with rod bolts and I plan on using Callies Compstar. So they'll come with the better ARP 2000 rod bolts.

Also, if head bolts/studs are needed, which ones do I need because they offer several different ones.
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Well, there are ARP head bolts and ARP head studs. The studs are the strongest option of the two and you also have the option of the 6-pt or 12-pt heads. I went with the 12-pt but it doesn't really matter, it's just personal preference. Additionally, I went with the studs over just bolts so I can pull my heads and not have to worry about cleaning out the damn bolt holes every time (studs stay in the holes and don't let the coolant back in like removing a bolt does).

As for other ARP bolts, some people use an ARP crank bolt (I would assume mostly for reusability), but the major places are the rod bolts and head studs.
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I have the crank pulley bolt.

What about main cap studs/bolts?
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You can if you want, I don't think those are as necessary as the rod bolts though. It's certainly added safety if you do, but I don't think that comes into play until you're making some decent hp (600+).
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I Suppose The Arp Main Bolt's Are Stronger Then Stock Correct?
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I would assume so, otherwise they've been making a killing.
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I'm really not following the last 2 posts.

I'm sure the ARP main cap studs/bolts are stronger than stock. I would guess all of the ARP studs/bolts are stronger than anything stock otherwise they wouldn't have a market.
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Originally Posted by Dragaholic
I'm really not following the last 2 posts.

I'm sure the ARP main cap studs/bolts are stronger than stock. I would guess all of the ARP studs/bolts are stronger than anything stock otherwise they wouldn't have a market.
That was my point. If they're not stronger than stock, then they've been making a killing on stock strength bolts for years.
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do rod bolts, head studs, and main studs. It's cheap insurance
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Head studs
Main studs
Rod bolts
Pressure plate bolts
Crank bolt

These are the most common. Many aftermarket connecting rods come with ARP bolts.
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Rod bolts are a given as connecting rods come with them.

I've got the crank pulley bolt already.

I guess I'll get studs for the heads for the reasons posted above.

Main studs I'll add to the list.

What are pressure plate bolts?
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Pressure Plate Bolts Are For Manual Trannys Not Auto's
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You've got an auto, doesn't pertain to you, it's for the pressure plate for clutches.
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I wasn't thinking. I know what a pressure plate is because my car originally was a 6 speed, I was just thinking that it was some type of plate/cover on the engine. I thought maybe they were referring to the cam retainer plate.

Speaking of the cam retainer plate, are ARP bolts needed here as they are offered for this as well?
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ARP bolts aren't needed for the cam retaining bolts. There is very little stress on these bolts.
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ARP pressure plate bolts work fine in Autos with aftermarket flexplates. I run them in my TCI SFI flexplate. (Converted M6) I had them and found them to work.
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I've got ARP rod bolts and head bolts in my motor now.

New build will be getting ARP head studs instead of the bolts, and ARP main studs. Keep in mind the main studs require getting the main journals line honed. Shops usually charge around $150 for this work from what I've called around here.

I might replace my crank bolt with an ARP too. I had actually ordered it, but they sent me the wrong one, and I didn't have time to exchange it. Aside from that, I'll probably get the pressure plate bolts too.

Next motor will be running a shot of nitrous coming through a firehose, so I very much want the ARP main studs. Good choice on the Callies Compstar rods, those are probably the ones I'll be going with.
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My car started out as a 6 speed as well. I reused the bolts for the pressure plate or flywheel for my TCI Flexplate. I wonder if I should replace them anyway. Its no longer a manual transmission, but it survived quite a few 5000 rpm transbrake launches and 1.3X 60 fts.
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Originally Posted by Dragaholic
Rod bolts are a given as connecting rods come with them.

I've got the crank pulley bolt already.

I guess I'll get studs for the heads for the reasons posted above.

Main studs I'll add to the list.

What are pressure plate bolts?
What year is the block you are building?

Ive got some head studs to let go of for the 2004-up blocks..lmk
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I'll be using the GM 6.2L L92 block that's patiently waiting in my garage.



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