New thread about my LS1 mustang... NEED HELP!
11-11-2006, 08:14 PM
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New thread about my LS1 mustang... NEED HELP! Ok so I finally got an LS1 to put in my mustang... I am going to put what the setup will be and then some opinions on a few things.
5.3 heads decked .015 and ported/bigger valves etc.
244/248 .6xx/.6xx lift cam
Stock bottom end with Mahle forged pistons (I need to know which ones will clear PVC?)
Now I want to stay with stock rods and do ARP rod bolts. Plan on sprayin a dual stage 200 shot... Will I be safe with forged pistons and stock rods with the ARP bolts?
Also I am going with the edelbrock carb'd setup.
Should I
A) go with a 4L60e and a stall and buy the module (I can get the tranny and stall for $300)
B) go with a t56 and wait (do I need anything special to run this if I'm carb'd)
C) go with a th350 or th400
Those are my main ?'s for now. I am sure I will think of more though.
If anyone knows what all I am gonna have to do as far as wiring for a carbuerated motor could they post a list. I am sure I am forgetting things.
5.3 heads decked .015 and ported/bigger valves etc.
244/248 .6xx/.6xx lift cam
Stock bottom end with Mahle forged pistons (I need to know which ones will clear PVC?)
Now I want to stay with stock rods and do ARP rod bolts. Plan on sprayin a dual stage 200 shot... Will I be safe with forged pistons and stock rods with the ARP bolts?
Also I am going with the edelbrock carb'd setup.
Should I
A) go with a 4L60e and a stall and buy the module (I can get the tranny and stall for $300)
B) go with a t56 and wait (do I need anything special to run this if I'm carb'd)
C) go with a th350 or th400
Those are my main ?'s for now. I am sure I will think of more though.
If anyone knows what all I am gonna have to do as far as wiring for a carbuerated motor could they post a list. I am sure I am forgetting things.
11-11-2006, 09:24 PM
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Saw your ???'s and thought I would give a little input. (not that I'm an expert, cause I ain't)
I don't know about the rods, but I think if you are going with a 200 shot, I would definately get some stronger rods just to be safe, but that's just me. As for the tranny, I have a T-56 and I think it is the bomb! Plus, I don't think you would need anything special to run it if you are carb'd, but seeing that you can get your tranny and stall for only $300 I would go for that one! That is if you think IT will run just fine with the carb'd engine, because I know that the 4L60e is electronically controled by the PCM for shift points and such, but I don't know much else about them.
Good hunting!
Luke
I don't know about the rods, but I think if you are going with a 200 shot, I would definately get some stronger rods just to be safe, but that's just me. As for the tranny, I have a T-56 and I think it is the bomb! Plus, I don't think you would need anything special to run it if you are carb'd, but seeing that you can get your tranny and stall for only $300 I would go for that one! That is if you think IT will run just fine with the carb'd engine, because I know that the 4L60e is electronically controled by the PCM for shift points and such, but I don't know much else about them.
Good hunting!
Luke
11-11-2006, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Domesticated Euro
Saw your ???'s and thought I would give a little input. (not that I'm an expert, cause I ain't)
I don't know about the rods, but I think if you are going with a 200 shot, I would definately get some stronger rods just to be safe, but that's just me. As for the tranny, I have a T-56 and I think it is the bomb! Plus, I don't think you would need anything special to run it if you are carb'd, but seeing that you can get your tranny and stall for only $300 I would go for that one! That is if you think IT will run just fine with the carb'd engine, because I know that the 4L60e is electronically controled by the PCM for shift points and such, but I don't know much else about them.
Good hunting!
Luke
I don't know about the rods, but I think if you are going with a 200 shot, I would definately get some stronger rods just to be safe, but that's just me. As for the tranny, I have a T-56 and I think it is the bomb! Plus, I don't think you would need anything special to run it if you are carb'd, but seeing that you can get your tranny and stall for only $300 I would go for that one! That is if you think IT will run just fine with the carb'd engine, because I know that the 4L60e is electronically controled by the PCM for shift points and such, but I don't know much else about them.
Good hunting!
Luke
And u have a SICK *** CAR man... I thought about doing an LS1 swap into an 8 series but they are expensive. Would get an RX7 if I was gonna spend that much.
11-11-2006, 09:51 PM
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Also can I get away with the -4cc valve relief type pistons? Or will I need more for those milled heads and the size of that cam. I may have to call someone on that.
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1) buy said 4L60E for $300 and resell for $500.
2) purchase 4L80E and forget about buying any othe transmission, ever.
3) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/H-BEA...mZ250002798900
take a look at that for rods/pistons. I was a little skeptical, mainly because of the price, but everyone who has purchased from that company has said they work. I haven't purchased a set so I don't have much say but its up to you. they gotta be stronger than stock rods.
2) purchase 4L80E and forget about buying any othe transmission, ever.
3) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/H-BEA...mZ250002798900
take a look at that for rods/pistons. I was a little skeptical, mainly because of the price, but everyone who has purchased from that company has said they work. I haven't purchased a set so I don't have much say but its up to you. they gotta be stronger than stock rods.
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3) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/H-BEA...mZ250002798900
take a look at that for rods/pistons. I was a little skeptical, mainly because of the price, but everyone who has purchased from that company has said they work. I haven't purchased a set so I don't have much say but its up to you. they gotta be stronger than stock rods.[/QUOTE]
These are the pistons I am looking into. I just need to know what dish I need to go with to clear PVC with my heads/cam setup. Also would the 4l80 require anything special with going carb'd? Such as that box to make it shift. I don't even know who makes that. I had thought about the 4l80 already as well. Dunno if that sucker will fit though.
take a look at that for rods/pistons. I was a little skeptical, mainly because of the price, but everyone who has purchased from that company has said they work. I haven't purchased a set so I don't have much say but its up to you. they gotta be stronger than stock rods.[/QUOTE]
These are the pistons I am looking into. I just need to know what dish I need to go with to clear PVC with my heads/cam setup. Also would the 4l80 require anything special with going carb'd? Such as that box to make it shift. I don't even know who makes that. I had thought about the 4l80 already as well. Dunno if that sucker will fit though.
11-12-2006, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JMBLOWNWS6
Get that junk together so I can whip that ***! And Im call BS untill you show pics of this! 
11-12-2006, 09:01 PM
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The 4L60E will hold just fine if built properly, there is a WS6 here going 9.77 on a 200 shot with a Stage V 4L60E and its been doing so all season. If your getting a th350/400 its going to suck to drive w/out lock-up. T-56 will hold but need to be built equally as strong. However, if you have the option of a 4L80E do that.
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Originally Posted by JMBLOWNWS6
Dont get a 4l60. Get a turbo 400 or a 4l80. Dont be a puss!
11-12-2006, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by I8URLS1
K... I'll be by your house this week to get yours. haha... dude the stalls for the 4l80's are SOOOOOO expensive... Do I need that box to make it shift as well?
4L80E CONVERTERS
3000 stall 9.5 inch with lockup--------------$625.00---------
3500 stall 9.5 inch with lockup--------------$645.00---------
4000 stall 9.5 inch with lockup--------------$675.00---------
2800-3000 full size converter---------------$400.00---------
Stock converter heavy duty-----------------$225.00---------
4L80E OEM FULL SIZE CONVERTERS
REQUIRE CORE IF AVAILABLE
3000 stall 9.5 inch with lockup--------------$625.00---------
3500 stall 9.5 inch with lockup--------------$645.00---------
4000 stall 9.5 inch with lockup--------------$675.00---------
2800-3000 full size converter---------------$400.00---------
Stock converter heavy duty-----------------$225.00---------
4L80E OEM FULL SIZE CONVERTERS
REQUIRE CORE IF AVAILABLE
think of it this way. take the money from the purchase of the built 4L60E and by the 2nd rebuild of a 4L60E you'd have already bought a 4L80E. I picked up a low mileage 4L80E out of a 2004 chevy van for $1200 from a board member. all Im gonna do is install a shift kit, stall, and trans cooler and go racin'
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Originally Posted by zigroid
http://www.performabuiltautomatics.com/converters.html
those are the cheapest 4L80E stalls I have come across. It looks like I'll be going there when it comes time to purchase my stall. that 4000 rpm stall looks very tempting!
think of it this way. take the money from the purchase of the built 4L60E and by the 2nd rebuild of a 4L60E you'd have already bought a 4L80E. I picked up a low mileage 4L80E out of a 2004 chevy van for $1200 from a board member. all Im gonna do is install a shift kit, stall, and trans cooler and go racin'
those are the cheapest 4L80E stalls I have come across. It looks like I'll be going there when it comes time to purchase my stall. that 4000 rpm stall looks very tempting!
think of it this way. take the money from the purchase of the built 4L60E and by the 2nd rebuild of a 4L60E you'd have already bought a 4L80E. I picked up a low mileage 4L80E out of a 2004 chevy van for $1200 from a board member. all Im gonna do is install a shift kit, stall, and trans cooler and go racin'
Yeah... JMblown knows my nickname so he knows I'll find one for a steal... hahaha