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Old 01-25-2003, 04:17 PM
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Went on the dyno today to see whats up.

I was pretty happy with the #'s, I gained 22rwhp and 18 torque from a lid and corsa catback. I finally got over 300 in my A4.

Besides that, I had a bunch of people telling me I have bad valve springs. This is where I need your help guys.

If I let this go for a while will this damage my car?
Should I go back to GM and have then replace them?

Or should I just buy better replacements? I was quoted about 600-650 to go with higher end valve springs, but I don't know much about this stuff.
Or I was even thinking while someone is ripping that apart, might as well throw an LS6 cam or something else very mild in there while I am doing the springs. <img border="0" alt="[burn out]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_burnout.gif" />

What do you guys think?
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Default Re: Damn GM valve springs

Cant find a better time to get a cam also. For what you are looking for i would look into the GM hot cam. It comes with the springs and retainers and the cam. Everything you need and more. And its like 400 bucks. SDPC --->
should have what you are looking for.
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Default Re: Damn GM valve springs

I'm curious what their rationale was behind recommending a valvespring change. How many miles are on the car? Are you getting valve float?

Will it damage your car? Could, but it's hard to give a likelihood without their reason for a swap.

I don't necessarily care for the Hotcam. But it would be wise to match your springs to your aftermarket cam at the same time unless you want to swap them again down the road. I'd buy both and install both at the same time if funds permit.

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Default Re: Damn GM valve springs

I have a dyno sheets that reflect that supposedly, also I was told by an unbiased person as my car was finishing its 1st run that I have faulty valve springs.

My car has almost 8000 miles on it.

I also have the video of the dyno as well as the sheet if anyone wants to see it

Thats my plan also, if I am going to change the springs, why not go with a cam too, shouldn't be too much more to go a little deeper
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What should I say to the dealer?

I was on the dyno and at about 5000 rpms we heard noises that would indicate a faulty valve spring?

I don't think they condone dyno testing?
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Also someone mentioned valve fluid, don't know what that is either. When it comes to inside the engine, I am retarded


And the symptom was the sound it made, sort of a cracking sound at high rpms, also they showed me my dyno sheets and that shows it too
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2002 Trans Am:
<strong> Also someone mentioned valve fluid, don't know what that is either. When it comes to inside the engine, I am retarded
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, there you go...they were pulling your leg. Valve fluid??? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> Yeah, its called engine oil. Post pics of your dyno sheet. It should show a very fast dip in hp at 5k or so rpm. Also, 5-600 bucks for valve springs??? GM LS6 springs are less than $100 and are more than adequate for the stock cam.
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I would delete this thread if I were you....or change your user name....... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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http://www.cardomain.com/member_page...=254692&page=4

Try page 4, it has my dyno sheet. If you want me to e-mail the large version on my computer thats cool
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Why should I delete this thread?
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a crackling sound at high rpms, like marbles in a can???

you probably have detonation, not valve float

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