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Old 11-14-2006, 07:55 PM
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Default Limit of aluminum vs iron block for turbocharging

Whats the max hp you can safely make with either an aluminum or iron LSx style block? Billet main caps, ARP hardware and a good set of ET heads....
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I'm not sure what power level it would be at, but i think the limiting factor(considering a good rotating assembly) would be when you reach enough compression/boost and you start to pull the head bolts out of the aluminum block.
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
Whats the max hp you can safely make with either an aluminum or iron LSx style block? Billet main caps, ARP hardware and a good set of ET heads....
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From what i have been told. Competent Engine builder who build some very Fast Ls1's.Think low 8's high 7's. If you are a daily driver whos gonna smack the load pedal Alot. Cut it off on the ls1 block at about 650hp. If its the ls6 block 700hp and if its the truck iron 6.0 800hp. Now if its a drag only car that see's service between every season of use 350 or less passes a year figre respectively 1000 1100 and 1200. But those are limited service engines. thats just what i hear.I can;t guarentee or tell you with 100% certianty that any block will ever take this much power. Sonic checking would be mandatory.
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blocks are fine, its the internals you need to worry about.
i use an aluminum block, its sleeved for larger pistons but its aluminum.
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The heads lifting is the only thing I would worry about with an aluminum block, and I'm pretty sure that, that problem can be eliminated in all but the most extreme situations by better design from the factory. I dont think you'll see any heads lifting on the aluminum warhawk block.

I would imagine that an LS1 with a forged internals will take 1000+ hp and if your really worried about I would think that with some darton sleeves the LS1 would be damn near unstoppable.
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I'd almost think...
Iron Block
1/2" head studs
.800" Deck
Won't lift....
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Whats the purpose of 1/2 the windage tray???

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Harlan has pushed his AL block and stock crank (I think stock crank) pretty damn hard. If I was to say what block was stronger out out the LS1 and LS6 block it would be the LS1.
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lifting isnt an issue anymore if done correctly, and it would be an issue even on an iron block.

I am not quite sure i understand the question about the windage tray , are you refering to the spacing or the use of?
The only thing odd about it , is the fact i have it coated. that was done for drainage and foaming.
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Originally Posted by KHShapiro
lifting isnt an issue anymore if done correctly, and it would be an issue even on an iron block.

I am not quite sure i understand the question about the windage tray , are you refering to the spacing or the use of?
The only thing odd about it , is the fact i have it coated. that was done for drainage and foaming.
Every windage tray I saw went from end to end. This one is like 3/4 the normal length.
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I suspect the windage tray only goes that far due to the minimal distance from the crank to the bottom of the pan in that area. It stands to reason that you won't see a great deal of windage in an area that's too shallow for a large amount of oil to pool up. Just my .02
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The windage tray is different length in f car than Corvette/truck. Its to clear the pan. Full length is better if it fits.

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