Should I let a non-pro tear into MY rear???
11-20-2006, 11:19 PM
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Should I let a non-pro tear into MY rear??? Hey guys,
I'm looking at installing inner and outer tie rods, plus changing the rear end because I bent the housing when I hit one little curb~ I know my hubby knows how to put in rear ends and whatever, but I don't think he's ever worked on a newer car (00), so I don't know about newer cars and if it takes something special?
Found this place looking for parts for my car. I wrecked it a couple weeks ago...one rainy afternoon. It slashed 3 tires, busted 2 rims and whatever all underneath. No one got hurt but I slid through a line of election signs and a fence post crashed my right quarter. Oh, it's all so depressing!
I bought new tires, and will get my 2 rims soon (had older Z28 rims for now), thought I was gonna align it and be done until I replaced the quarter panel...I knew better. I obviously can feel the tie rod, but the rear end was a fear. I just thought it looked good for a momma to have her babies in cool cars. I dunno? Somebody tell me it's going to be ok already..
I'm looking at installing inner and outer tie rods, plus changing the rear end because I bent the housing when I hit one little curb~ I know my hubby knows how to put in rear ends and whatever, but I don't think he's ever worked on a newer car (00), so I don't know about newer cars and if it takes something special?
Found this place looking for parts for my car. I wrecked it a couple weeks ago...one rainy afternoon. It slashed 3 tires, busted 2 rims and whatever all underneath. No one got hurt but I slid through a line of election signs and a fence post crashed my right quarter. Oh, it's all so depressing!
I bought new tires, and will get my 2 rims soon (had older Z28 rims for now), thought I was gonna align it and be done until I replaced the quarter panel...I knew better. I obviously can feel the tie rod, but the rear end was a fear. I just thought it looked good for a momma to have her babies in cool cars. I dunno? Somebody tell me it's going to be ok already..
11-20-2006, 11:28 PM
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If he's changing the entire rear, it's only held on by like six bolts or something. Worst thing he could do aside from crush a finger would be maybe tear a brake line. Only other item of consideration might be what the gear ratio of the replacement rear is. If it's different ratio your speedo will be off a bit, shift points might need to be changed, etc.
But other than that, won't really be a big deal. No special tools needed; just some jack stands and I think a 15mm socket and a wrench.
But other than that, won't really be a big deal. No special tools needed; just some jack stands and I think a 15mm socket and a wrench.
11-20-2006, 11:40 PM
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So I do know how to get a guy to answer! Thanks~ Ok, that's what he said...but I was just making sure he wasn't lying to get his hands on my baby. Oh, thanks I am actually smiling again. I'm gonna get to fix my car!!!
Thanks for the quick help!
Btw, I've always been careful about the rear!
Thanks for the quick help!
Btw, I've always been careful about the rear!
I'm sure your husband will be happy that the wait is finally over to wrench your rear as well 
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11-21-2006, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by carwreck
He's happy...he's been locked up 6 months and talkin' about how he'll wash the dishes!?!
11-21-2006, 09:38 AM
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No, no, no...sorry. He's just hoping I'll still have a use for him 'round the house. He's even offered to wash the dishes. I am sure that he would rather work on the car. I was just saying he WILL be happy. No point, reason or logic involved.
You know I wonder what I could expect to spend on a used rear end in Missouri? I guess the 10 bolt is because of the lug nuts??? 5 on each side, who knows. But I do have the 3.42 gear ratio and posi. Since I bent the housing I will have to change the entire thing, but that would probably just be the easiest anyhow. But would there be any gain to switching my internal parts into a straight empty case? The dealership told me it was 1000 for an empty case, but I consider the source and go on~
You know I wonder what I could expect to spend on a used rear end in Missouri? I guess the 10 bolt is because of the lug nuts??? 5 on each side, who knows. But I do have the 3.42 gear ratio and posi. Since I bent the housing I will have to change the entire thing, but that would probably just be the easiest anyhow. But would there be any gain to switching my internal parts into a straight empty case? The dealership told me it was 1000 for an empty case, but I consider the source and go on~
11-21-2006, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by carwreck
The dealership told me it was 1000 for an empty case, but I consider the source and go on~
11-21-2006, 01:01 PM
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10 bolts affix the differntial cover onto the housing, on a bigger more robust rear they use 12 in some trucks the DANA's have 14, what the number of bolts in the cover do for preformance is obvioulsy nothing, its just a quick way of determining which rear in in your car, some third gen F-bodys had rear ends manufactured in Australia. The housing was exactly the same as the rears maunfactured here in the US (as far as i know) but they made them 9-bolts just so someone would know just by looking at it where it was manufactured.
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not trying to thread highjack but how do you change the shift points(does this apply to an automatic only?) and adjust the speedo? can this be done with a hypertech programmer?
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11-21-2006, 02:12 PM
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hypertech programmer will do it or sending your ECM (or PCM) out to have it programmed will too, SLP makes a harnes to calibrate the spedo but its pricy if I remember
11-21-2006, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by alamantia
10 bolts affix the differntial cover onto the housing, on a bigger more robust rear they use 12 in some trucks the DANA's have 14, what the number of bolts in the cover do for preformance is obvioulsy nothing, its just a quick way of determining which rear in in your car, some third gen F-bodys had rear ends manufactured in Australia. The housing was exactly the same as the rears maunfactured here in the US (as far as i know) but they made them 9-bolts just so someone would know just by looking at it where it was manufactured.
They are called "10 bolt" differentials because 10 bolts fasten the ring gear to the carrier.
11-21-2006, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by alamantia
That is a "10 bolt" diff there, with.....yep, 10 bolts holding the ring gear to the carrier. 12 bolt rears have....you guessed it, 12 bolts holding the ring gear on. Interesting factoid for ya, there are some older 12 bolt rears that don't have 12 bolts holding the diff cover on
11-21-2006, 03:25 PM
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so this says that a 10 bolt rear which has 10 bolts that affix the cover to the rear has 10 bolts which affix the ring gear to the diff
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the 12 bolt rear that has 12 bolts which affix the cover to the rear has 12 bolts which affix the ring gear to the diff
In other words, by looking at the outside of the rear you can determine a 10 bolt by the inspection cover having 10 bolts and a 12 bolt by the inspection cover having 12 bolts.
Im obviuosly wrong in my statement that a 10 bolt has 10 bolts around the diff cover for easy identification and the 12 has 12. I see the error of my way, im obviously an idiot, thank you for pointing this out, how can i make it right?
Bottom line
9 bolt rear has 9 bolts on the diff cover
10 bolt rear has 10 bolts on the rear cover
12 bolt rear has 12 bolts on the rear cover
14 bolt rear has 14 bolts on the rear cover
Heres a 14 bolt rear with a 12 bolt differential, explain that one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/10-5-...spagenameZWDVW
and
the 12 bolt rear that has 12 bolts which affix the cover to the rear has 12 bolts which affix the ring gear to the diff
In other words, by looking at the outside of the rear you can determine a 10 bolt by the inspection cover having 10 bolts and a 12 bolt by the inspection cover having 12 bolts.
Im obviuosly wrong in my statement that a 10 bolt has 10 bolts around the diff cover for easy identification and the 12 has 12. I see the error of my way, im obviously an idiot, thank you for pointing this out, how can i make it right?
Bottom line
9 bolt rear has 9 bolts on the diff cover
10 bolt rear has 10 bolts on the rear cover
12 bolt rear has 12 bolts on the rear cover
14 bolt rear has 14 bolts on the rear cover
Heres a 14 bolt rear with a 12 bolt differential, explain that one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/10-5-...spagenameZWDVW
Last edited by alamantia; 11-21-2006 at 04:27 PM.
11-21-2006, 06:07 PM
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HAHA! You're both wrong!
The 10 bolt, 12 bolt, 9 bolt etc refer to the number of bolts on the differential cover. Whether or not the ring gear has the same number of bolts is pure coincidence, and is not true for all rears. Here's a question for you if you still think I'm wrong: How many ring gear bolts are on a 9 bolt rear?
And alamantia, the Australian 9 bolt rear is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from any other rear. The difference is not just the amount of cover bolts.
The 10 bolt, 12 bolt, 9 bolt etc refer to the number of bolts on the differential cover. Whether or not the ring gear has the same number of bolts is pure coincidence, and is not true for all rears. Here's a question for you if you still think I'm wrong: How many ring gear bolts are on a 9 bolt rear?
And alamantia, the Australian 9 bolt rear is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from any other rear. The difference is not just the amount of cover bolts.