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Old 11-27-2006, 09:50 AM
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yes i know another 224 thread.... but i searched and haven't found much on the stuff i was wondering...

well i have a 98 ls1 camaro A4 and it has richmond 373, LT and LM exhust, Slp Ultra Z hood and front breather....brand new tranny with all billet parts inside and have a 2300 stall in it.... and going to change to the LS6 intake with P/P TB soon....

but i was wondering would i be able to run the TR244 with upgrading the stall?? also what can i expect for a HP gain with the cam.... and how much more hp will i gain with after market heads over worked stock heads? also any one have sometimes with the cam and has an auto in their car... ive seen people with high hp with the sticks but not really anyone with autos....


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Old 11-27-2006, 10:08 AM
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Is your TR cam the one with higher lift(.581)? if so i can tell you my experience cuz i have the same cam from comp. i have an 01 M6 car so i already have the LS6 intake, and when i did all the bolt ons, added the cam, and an excellent tune and i picked up 74 hp and 52 tq on a dyno jet. auto's usually lose more HP than the manuals but definitely do the bolt ons so you can take advantage of the cam. i'm unfamiliar with stalls in auto's so i'm clueless on that question of yours. and i'd definitely recomend tuning your car afterwards for better driveability and make sure your air fuel ratio is correct.

just my .02--hope it helps.
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i haven't bought one yet..... i was thinking about it and not sure.... don't feel like droping tons and tons of money into it right now thats why i was thinking this cam
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TR224- 224/224, .563/.563 112 or 114 LSA

The 114+4 will do nicely.
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I have a TR224 on a 114 lsa for sale. Bought it last year and bought a daily driver before I installed it, so I am going bigger. If you're interested, let me know. By the way, I spoke with Thunder when I was trying to decide on my cam and they said it would work great with the 2800 stall I purchased from them and that with an auto, it would be easier to tune on the 114 lsa. I believe some people on this board are running it with the stock stall though. I dont think you would have a problem with it because the power band is 1700-6600 for that cam and the 2300 stall should push you into the band and keep you there.
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have you ran ur car at the strip with the cam?? did u like how it was on hte streets and then when u got on the car how the power was?
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I have that cam, check out my sig. Love it, ran 11.9 on motor with heads and intake. That was bouncing off the limiter for ever do to line pressure issues.
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Can I run a 224 down the highway on a trip with out worrying about tearing something up?
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Originally Posted by jcolews6
Can I run a 224 down the highway on a trip with out worrying about tearing something up?
yeah i put about 30K+ miles on my car with my old TR224 112lsa cam, and never had any problems with it
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Originally Posted by 1slow98Z28
have you ran ur car at the strip with the cam?? did u like how it was on hte streets and then when u got on the car how the power was?
I had a 224 cam and ran 7.5's all day in the 1/8th thru 2.73 gears too. Great street manners also.
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Great street cam! With my 383 ls6 I get 21.3 mpg and 24.3 mpg on my last trip running 80 mph. Strong torque curve too!
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I have that cam in an a4(TCI 34-3800 stall) puts 350rwhp some people put about 360 some around 340 depending on how big your stall is,the numbers dont seem high,but when you floor it most peole **** a brick.dont get too caught up in numbers with an a4 unless its real low.The first time it was tuned it put down 315 and it stalled alot,then when to a diff. tuner and put down 350rwhp.I have a friend on here with the same mods same tci stall and put down 342rwhp,but runs looooow 12's.Sure if you had a stick shiht it would show more hp on the dyno,but does not mean it would be faster
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okay, what if you had a 224 cam lets say that put down 390/370 and then lets say u had a toruqer 2 that put down about the same hp and tq. which would win on the street? would it be close regardless of the hp numbers?
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Light to light on street tires, I vote for the 224.
The first one is a 224 (red) VS a 231/237 (yes the 224 is red, it is a typo on the graph)
And the second is 224 VS G5x2 VS FM13

look who owns who below the curve (below 5252rpm)
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thanks predator for the info like always.. yeah now i can see bigger isnt always better. but from a roll, how would they compare. i only picked the 224 and torquer just because they seem to be the popular cam size choices.
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how much difference would it be from the 224 on 112 LSA to the 114LSA if i use the 2300 stall??
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also do you think it would be good to port my heads or buy after market ones or just plain ls6 heads??
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Originally Posted by 1slow98Z28
how much difference would it be from the 224 on 112 LSA to the 114LSA if i use the 2300 stall??
Get rid of that 2300 stall and step up to a 3600-4000 and the 224 cam will be mean from a roll too.
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look who owns who below the curve (below 5252rpm)
Hopefully you won't be spending too much time under 5200 RPM's. Also, PREDATOR-Z would you say that the 224 cam in a car w/ a 3600 would pound on a car w/ a 224 and a 2300 in it?

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i don't have money for the stallits either to do the cam and port the heads or do more dress up stuff.... i have a brand new trans in the car and the guy threw it in for free and the trans is all built and shift kit and everything it was a brand new create tranny and i got it for 800 installed and everything brand new..... so im not changing the stall in it for alil time...thats why i was wondering if the 2300 would be ok withthe cam for a while... and also racing isn't from a roll its from a stop... thats all ill do with the car
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Originally Posted by 1slow98Z28
but from a roll, how would they compare.
Originally Posted by 1slow98Z28
and also racing isn't from a roll its from a stop... thats all ill do with the car.
You asked the question, not me?

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