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Old 12-23-2006, 12:15 PM
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for my holiday gift to myself i think im going to get porter cable buffer and some zaino products...

i dono which porter cable to get..or which zaino products.. so could someone please help?

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Old 12-23-2006, 12:31 PM
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there is a big kit you can buy for zaino... comes with z7, z2, z5, some pads, tire shine, and some other stuff too its great. as for the porter cable... get the 7424 or the 7336, only difference in them is the 7336 has more counter weight. youll also need pads and a backing plate for the porter cable. BUT... i would not suggest using the porter cable with zaino products, zaino is meant for applying by hand not by buffer. zaino pretty much doesnt cut the paint at all so using a porter cable with zaino really doesnt make since.
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I just eamiled Sal Zaino similar questions, here is the reply email. Sorry it's Long



Thank You for your interest in Zaino Show Car Polish Products....

Bare minumum to purchase is ZFX, Z-5 and if you wash the car yourself
also get Z-7...

But for the Ultimate in paint protection and an incredible Show Car
finish on your above scenario.
I recommend purchasing the Zaino Bros' Total Protection Show Car Kit..

Code# ZKIT-1


Enclosed is a more detailed version of my Application Tips & Tricks.
Please read thoroughly. It contains some really great info.....


ZAINO APPLICATION
TIPS


1. Because Zaino Show Car Polish is optically perfect (99.9%) The
optimum results are achieved by using over wax free paint.

2. If you are looking for the ultimate paint surface preparation. Use
Zaino Z-18 ClayBar first or skip to Step 3.

Zaino Z-18 ClayBay was designed to remove airborne contaminants,
paint overspray, water spots, rail dust, industrial fallout, diesel
fuel
& catalytic converter residue and any other bonded surface
contaminants
from paint. All cars even brand new factory paint has airborne
contaminants... Here's the deal. The non-abrasive Z-18 ClayBar will
remove
any surface contaminants from the paint finish and not hurt the
clear-coat. The ClayBar will get that paint finish smooth as glass.
Now
remember waterspots, bird droppings and bug guts if left on the
paint finish for any length of time. Will etch into the paint finish.
The ClayBar will also remove any store bought waxes....

I recommend you use my car wash (Z-7) as a lubricant for the ClayBar.
Just make sure to keep the surface area lubricated while using the
ClayBar.
Use 1/2 capful of Z-7 Car Wash to 12 ounces of water. I use a spray
bottle
for the mix. Shake it up and spray the area to be Clayed. Just make
sure
to keep the surface area lubricated while using the ClayBar.

3. I would definitely recommend you remove the wax buildup on your
paint. Just use Liquid Dawn(hand dishwashing liquid) as a car wash. It

has a high alkaline content which cuts right thru carnauba wax,
paraffin, silicone oils, etc. This will get your paint finish squeeky
clean and wax free.

I don't advise making a habit of washing your car with Dawn. But for
this scenario it's fine. High alkaline products like Dawn are tough on

polishes. It will never harm the paint finish though. A car wash is
made
specifically to clean without removing durable polishes. ALSO, Make
sure
you remove any water spots, before you apply my products. Because
Zaino
has no abrasives or harsh solvents it will not remove water spots or
stains. Z-18 ClayBar is great for removing any paint surface
contaminants.
Re-wash the entire vehicle with Z-7 Car Wash immediately after the
ClayBar
Cleaning Process.

4. The basic products you will need are Z-1 or the new ZFX, Z-2,
Z-5(optional,
but highly
recommended for swirls and especially on darker colors), Z-6 and Z-7.
If you are going to use the NEW ZFX flash cure system, then skip step
5 and read
the ZFX
instructions below..

5. Start with Z-1 Polish Lok as per directions. Z-1 does not need to
dry. Remember do not wipe off the Z-1 Polish Lok. Apply Z-5 or Z-2
directly over the Z-1. Z-5 is the Hot ticket for a swirl free,
flawless
paint finish. Usually one to three coats will accomplish that.

6. Let Z-5 or Z-2 polish dry at least one hour. Please NOTE: Zaino
Show
Car Polish works best at 60 degrees or higher. However, it can be
applied down to temperatures of 45 degrees. It just will take much,
much
longer to dry. As much as two to three hours drying time is required
if
the temperature is 50 degrees or below. Also, If the humidity is high.

Longer drying time is necessary. Humidity is a killer on the drying
time
of Z-2 or Z-5. The moisture in the air hinders drying
time up to four times longer than normal. Sorry, but I can't help
this.
When you try to remove Z-2 or Z-5 when it is still wet. All you're
accomplishing is moving it around. Kinda like reapplying it. Also you
need to use a LARGE White 100% Bath size towel (please refer to my
Tips
& Tricks sheet on my web site for the proper towels to use) to remove
Z-2 or Z-5. Smaller towels will not work efficiently.

To test if Z-2 or Z-5 is dry and ready to be removed. Wipe your finger

on a hazed section. It should immediately come off and leave a crytal
clear finish. If it smears, it is still wet. You can leave Z-2 or Z-5
on
for hours or overnight if you desire. When it is not humid Z-2 will
take
anywhere from 30 to 60 minutes to dry. Depending on how heavy you
applied it. I have applied Z-2 in the Arizona sun and it dried in
approx. 3 to 5 minutes. I have also applied it in 38 degree
temperature
and it took about 2 to 3 hours to dry. Be patient. It's worth it.
Different situations affect drying times. Also, remember you have Z-1
and Z-5 both on the car. That is two products that have to dry at one
time. Takes longer. Z-2 or Z-5 does not contain any oils and once it's

dry will never ever look smeary or feel greasy. If you remove Z-2 or
Z-5
before it is thoroughly dry and get any smears. Just wipe down the car

with a damp cotton towel. This will remove any smears. Don't use Z-6
until you wipe the car down. If you'd like call me and I'll help you
out
with more info!

7. After removal of Zaino Z-2 or Z-5. You should wait 24 hours if the
outside temperature is under 70 degrees and 6 hours if over 70
degrees,
before applying the next coat of Z-5 or Z-2.

8. Use Z-6 "Gloss Enhancer" spray as per directions, between each and
every coat of Z-5 or Z-2. It really helps give a three dimensional
look.
It's antistatic properties will reduce dust and dirt pickup by 60%.
Z-6
can be used immediately after removing Z-2 or Z-5 or right before
applying the next coat of Z-2 or Z-5. Most of my customers prefer to
use
Z-6 both, before and after Z-2 or Z-5 for that extra gloss boost.

9. You can switch to Z-2 as soon as you are happy with the way the
paint
finish looks. Example, no more swirls, scratches etc. It's up to you.
Z-2 has higher optical properties than Z-5. You can go from Z-2 to Z-5

and then back to Z-2 as often as you want. Z-2 and Z-5 are 100%
compatible and interchangeable. You should always end with Z-2 as the
last coat because of its higher optics.

10. The number of coats of Z-2 or Z-5 is up to you. When you reach the

level of enhancement you like, normal maintenence with Z-7 Car Wash
and
Z-6 "Gloss Enhancer" spray is all that's necessary. Naturally apply a
coat of Z-2 or Z-5 whenever you feel it is required.

NOTE: One application of Zaino Z-2 or Z-5 will outlast anything in the

industry and is all you'll ever need for an average vehicle. However,
Multiple coats will achieve an even deeper, wetter-looking, ultra high

gloss. Plus higher paint protection. It's up to you....You be the
judge...

ALWAYS use only 100% Cotton towels. They must be Made in USA. Brand
name
(Cannon or Fieldcrest) large white bath size towels. See my web site,
for the real truth on cotton towels and which ones to use.


ZFX™ Instructions

When used as directed, Zaino Bros' ZFX™ Show Car Polish accelerator
enables Zaino Show Car Polish to cure instantly and increases
durability. This exclusive product allows you to create a “Show Car
Finish” in a day and gives your car months of lasting protection.

This kit contains a 2ml vial of ZFX™ Show Car Polish accelerator mix
and
four mixing bottles. The vial contains enough ZFX™ to prepare 16
ounces
of polish.

Pour one to two ounces of Show Car Polish (Z-2, Z-3 or Z-5) into a 2
ounce ZFX mixing bottle. For each ounce of polish, add 4 to 5 drops
of
ZFX™ (no more than 10 drops for two full ounces), screw the cap back
on,
and shake vigorously for 60 to 90 seconds.

ZFX™ enabled polish must be applied to a clean car. Follow these easy

steps:

1. Apply Zaino Show Car Polish enabled with ZFX™ with a 100% terry
cloth
applicator. Use the polish sparingly. A small amount goes a long
way,
and you will be applying multiple coats.
2. Squirt a dime size dab of polish on your applicator and rub it into

your paint using back and forth hand motions.
3. Allow the polish the haze (dry) for 30 minutes.
4. Buff off the Show Car Polish residue with a high quality, 100%
cotton
detailing towel.


You're now ready to apply your next coat of Zaino Show Car Polish
enabled with ZFX™. There's no need to wait. Simply follow steps 1
through 4 again. Use a fresh buffing towel with each coat. Apply no
more than three coats of Zaino Show Car Polish enabled with ZFX™ in a
24
hour period. fro optimum results use enable ZFX withing 6 hours of
mixing

When you are finished polishing, wash mixing bottle inside and out
with
a heavy concentration of liquid dishwashing detergen and rinse
thoroughlyt. The ZFX™ mixing bottles cannot be reused if the polish
remains in the bottle for more than 12 hours. After 12 hours, it is
not
possible to remove the ZFX™ accelerator from the mixing bottles.
Throw
the mixing bottle and any unused polish contents away after 12 hours.

Call me and I'll give you some more tips on your specific situation.

Happy Holidays,
Sal Zaino
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thanks alot guys...and i wasnt thinking of using zaino with the buffer...i was thinkin of getting a buffer with sum diff pads and compounds then finishing it off with zaino..
or should i just use zaino??
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I always recommend:

Porter Cable kit:
Polisher: http://www.properautocare.com/basporcab74p.html (I bought my 7336 from Lowes for about $100)
Backing plate: http://www.properautocare.com/6inhoandloba1.html
Polish and pads: http://www.properautocare.com/menpolandpad.html

*NOTE: Properautocare has recently started selling the new CCS pads (still made by Lake Country). I haven't tried them yet personally, but Lake Country and Properautocare have yet to disappoint me.

Zaino:
http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...ory_Code=Zaino


Here's why:
The polisher kit, with the Menzerna polishes, will help you REMOVE all but the deepest scratches and swirl marks. Once that's done, Zaino is a very durable sealant, and is an excellent finishing touch for a clean surface.

If you want to only use Zaino products, I would recommend the same Zaino kit above, but add:
Z-PC: http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...ory_Code=Zaino

And get this polisher kit instead:
http://www.properautocare.com/74uldema.html

And maybe one orange pad, for those stubborn areas:
http://www.properautocare.com/coprorpopa.html

I haven't used Z-PC personally, since Menzerna has ALWAYS worked for me. I've tried various sealants along the way, but Menzerna's polishes are tried and true, IMO.


-Mike



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