Blackbird

Supercharged V, car is pulling 4-6 degrees at WOT and I cant seem to find the reason why. not getting KR, car must just be being told somewhere for some reason to pull timing for the conditions its under.

if tuners cant do it how bout efilives scanner?

gametech

iTrader: (1)

Are you monitoring burst knock retard as well as regular KR? There are many parameters you can monitor besides just the default scanner settings.

5.7 ute

Efilive has up to 24 different spark pids to monitor to find out where your culprit is. I dont know how many HPtuners have.

foff667

iTrader: (2)

yeah all PID's are under either advance or retard...everything from burst knock, iat spark, tq mngt advance, etc. is all there.

Blackbird

I didn't try burst knock. Ok instead of assuming certain tables are not coming into play I will lock all knock / advance pids and see if it shows me anything.

foff667

iTrader: (2)

I would say also post your current .hpt file as well as an hpl file that shows where your loosing timing...alot of the time its pretty easy to see where your loosing it.

jimmyblue

iTrader: (11)

Definitely log every advance and retard adder you can
find in the PID list until you see which ones are nonzero.
Also log your Knock Learn Factor as this can "steal"
timing by pushing you toward the LO table from ping
history, otherwise unbeknownst.

WAHUSKER

iTrader: (4)

The IAT table was pulling 4* on mine over 120* (which doesn't matter now that I use Meth), but like they all said, there are MANY culprits.

Blackbird

ok folks it's burst knock.

is there a method to this table or since the car is supercharged should I just zero out and let the high/low timing tables take care of things? or is there a "proper" way to do this so it can do it's job even though car is FI now?

ringram

Many zero it out and get no real KR. Just drop the values down and monitor for knock logged and audible and go from there.
With forced induction you will be triggering the delta air values real easy. You can also bump up the triggers as an alternative. But Id say dropping the BKR retard values is your best bet. Just make sure you arnt going to create knock by doing so.