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lt197formula
12-28-2006, 06:18 PM
Haven't heard or seen much more than these links and a couple others but if Dodge follows through with it props to them. Looks better and will have more power but then of course GM will up the ante with the ZOsick or whatever is going to happen with the bluedevil??? Either way in the future the cars are just going to keep getting unbelievably sicker :devil:

http://www.fquick.com/articles/2008_Dodge_Viper_SRT-10

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1447881 (this information is copied and pasted below)

Fourth Generation Dodge Viper and Chrysler Firepower Rumors:

Late next summer the last 2006 Viper will roll off the lines. When the employees return to work the following January, a little over 14 months from now, they will be building the refreshed 2008 "ZB" models. The 2007 model year is going to be skipped.”

From a source who would probably prefer to remain nameless: “The 2008 Dodge Viper is solid - much faster and sleeker, while still keeping the twin hump in top (on coupe models) but with a whole new front end that’s sharper and more menacing.”

Given the recent showing of a McLaren Viper, and rumors about the current V10 being “made over” by an external firm, it seems almost certain that the 2008 Dodge Viper will use a McLaren-massaged V10 engine, probably the one shown at SEMA in the ASC Diamondback Viper. That engine was rated at 615 hp, a fat 110 hp more than the current version; that Viper could do 0-60 in 3.5 seconds, a few tenths better than the current model in a genre where a few tenths are a big difference. The ASC model cut weight using expensive carbon fiber, but then, McLaren might not have been showing all their engine could do; we’ve been told to expect 700 hp but we suspect 650 is more realistic, and, indeed, we have been told by a reliable source that 600-650 hp is what we should really expect. Keep in mind, though, that the Viper V-10 is not a typical "peaky" engine and that it has tire-melting power right off idle.

Other rumors were not particularly credible - using the Mercedes V12 (not Viper-like), a V10 Hemi (expensive to create, poor emissions), a turbocharged V10 (not desired by current owners), and an even bigger Hemi V8 (again, not Viper-like). The current Viper engine, based on the LA V8 family introduced decades ago, most likely has untapped potential which could be awakened by expert tuners.

A Chrysler version of the Viper is almost certainly in the works. The Firepower may be a look at what's to come - it's a Hemi-powered, Viper-chassis Chrysler that would be cheaper to make, and would add to the volume of the Viper chassis, helping to spur profitability. By using a standard-production drivetrain, it's no doubt much cheaper to make - and performance is still respectable with a Corvette-like 0-60 in 4.5 seconds. (Keep in mind it's an automatic.) The Firepower is said to have definitely been approved.

2008 Dodge Viper rumor roundup summary:Predicted debut: 6:30pm-8:30pm Monday September 25th, 2006, VOI9 Las Vegas

Start of production (Job 1): January 8th, 2007

End of production: July 2008 (for the 2008 model)

Series: ZB


Models: SRT10 coupe and SRT convertible (+ Special edition models)


New features:

Exterior refresh
8.4L SFI V10 engine replaces 8.3L V10 (600-650 hp estimate)
High performance alternator
New SRT-10 satin silver badging
+?

Key carryover features from 2006:

6-speed T56 manual transmission (revised?)
3.07 axle ratio
12-inch clutch
18.5-gallon fuel tank
18x10 and 19x13 wheels
275/35ZR18 and 345/30ZR19 Michelin tires
310-watt amp w/7 speakers and subwoofer
Anti-lock 4-Wheel-disc brakes
Dual side exhaust
HID headlamps
Keyless Entry
Leather wrapped Steering Wheel
Power adjustable pedals
Power windows (1-touch up)
Preferred suede seats w/leather trim
Radio RBQ AM/FM radio w/in-dash 6-disc CD
Sirius satellite radio
Sport Suspension
Tilt steering column

Colors: Viper...black, blue, red, yellow, slate crystal?, more?


unit213
12-28-2006, 07:14 PM
Doesn't this car come equipped with a TR-6060 instead of the T-56?

lt197formula
12-28-2006, 07:18 PM
I always thought they were just heavier duty t-56's hopefully somone with more viper knowledge will chime in.


Hydramatic
12-29-2006, 11:17 AM
Yeah, they were beefed up T56 units. Just go to the sponsor link that does t56 rebuilds and they have an entire section on it. :)

Billy the Great
12-29-2006, 12:08 PM
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/12/28/2008-dodge-viper-srt-10-breaks-cover-ahead-of-schedule/

lt197formula
12-29-2006, 12:25 PM
Doesn't this car come equipped with a TR-6060 instead of the T-56?

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/12/28/2008-dodge-viper-srt-10-breaks-cover-ahead-of-schedule/

In this link ^^^ it states that the new beefed up T-56 is know as the TR-6060.

WILWAXU
12-30-2006, 07:34 AM
I like it, not sure I like it more than a ZO6 though ;)

Hydramatic
12-30-2006, 11:19 AM
Anyway, I've always loved vipers, so this one still looks pretty damn good to me. Something about having a race car for the street is badass.... :drive:

seabirdak
01-11-2007, 04:14 PM
600 hp to keep up with a 500 hp car hehe good stuff. More power still may not make it much faster. It comes down to power to weight, gearing and aero. Maybe the Viper has some of those... I Still like the Z06 better and praise the viper for creating the Z06. (Plan on buying a C5Z) From what I've heard the Viper is brutal in more that one sense and good for a weekend cruiser and thats about it. :judge:

Tainted
01-11-2007, 04:25 PM
lol the viper is all about you and the car. its very simple and straightforward. not many luxuries except for the thrill of the driving experience

seabirdak
01-11-2007, 04:34 PM
So your saying you've driven one? How was it? ;)

Tainted
01-11-2007, 04:48 PM
So your saying you've driven one? How was it? ;)


hmm sort of

im only 16 but me and gramps go to a salvage sale and elts just say me and my insurance buddy have taken some of the exotics around the lot. The viper was pretty mean but it also had a emssed up wheel so it was strictly under 45 but it felt rather mean. now the repaired ferrari 360 was a nasty lil fucker. hopefully not this week week but the week after ill get to go for a run in the ford gt

BAD2000TA
01-12-2007, 12:24 PM
lol the viper is all about you and the car. its very simple and straightforward. not many luxuries except for the thrill of the driving experienceAnd that's the EXACT reason why it was built!!! When it first debuted, it didn't have air conditioning, roll-up windows, anti-lock brakes, etc. Pure driving machine. They still are, but just softened-up a bit. I love 'em! But, definitely not a daily driver in the sense that you could use a Z06 daily.

burnzilla
01-12-2007, 01:15 PM
I guessed about 6 months ago Dodge would up the ante on the Viper.
After all, it is supposed to be faster in a straight line then the Corvette.
And it should be. Its a Viper.

DSIM
01-12-2007, 02:36 PM
Ive driven a few in my day, and I loved them. They are bad ass cars, I just dont prefer the looks of the new one. Give me a 96 blue/white GTS and I will be in heaven... I dont care how much power the new ones have.

Pretyflywiteguy
01-12-2007, 02:37 PM
I guessed about 6 months ago Dodge would up the ante on the Viper.
After all, it is supposed to be faster in a straight line then the Corvette.
And it should be. Its a Viper.

It really comes down to the driver on the two cars. One will never blow t he other away stock for stock and same model year with adaquit (sp?) driver's. In a road race with some turns the viper pwns.

DSIM
01-12-2007, 02:39 PM
It really comes down to the driver on the two cars. One will never blow t he other away stock for stock and same model year with adaquit (sp?) driver's. In a road race with some turns the viper pwns.


Ive seen Neons turn better times than Vipers at Texas World Speedway....

Tainted
01-12-2007, 07:34 PM
Ive seen Neons turn better times than Vipers at Texas World Speedway....


vipers need a good driver to keep it on the road. the car is meant to be a drivers car and nothing more. most cars ahve tcs and all kinds of computer aided shit to help you stay on the road. the viper wants the driver to do all that for themselves

DSIM
01-12-2007, 08:15 PM
vipers need a good driver to keep it on the road. the car is meant to be a drivers car and nothing more. most cars ahve tcs and all kinds of computer aided shit to help you stay on the road. the viper wants the driver to do all that for themselves


I know that. I have seen Neons with good drivers, and Vipers with good drivers... and I have seen those Neons turn faster lap times than the Vipers

Hydramatic
01-14-2007, 01:57 PM
Yeah, but I haven't seen neons outrun any vipers on the street or at the track, so i'm pretty sure it's not the same caliber car.

I know the Neons have always done well at SCCA though...

DSIM
01-14-2007, 02:06 PM
Yeah, but I haven't seen neons outrun any vipers on the street or at the track, so i'm pretty sure it's not the same caliber car.

I know the Neons have always done well at SCCA though...


I am sure they are out there, but of course not stock for stock. I was just saying...

Genesis_26317
02-17-2007, 04:43 PM
Ive seen Neons turn better times than Vipers at Texas World Speedway....


Yeah but your still in a Neon and the other guy ahs a freakin' Viper.

They are seriously mean looking car in person. Pics can't do them justice.

Pretyflywiteguy
02-17-2007, 08:00 PM
i want a viper... :(