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Old 12-29-2006, 08:37 AM
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Default Why can't I find any dished pistons for a 383?

Like the title says, I can't find anyone who sells dished pistons for a 3.903/5 bore / 4.00 stroke / 6.125 rod. All I can find is like -7cc, which is only good for a 9.9 compression ratio using 6.0L 72cc heads. I'm looking to get 9.0 ~ 9.5 compression with LQ9 heads; so I'm needing a dished piston somewhere in the -11 to -17 range. Can anyone point me in the right direction on where to find these?
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Call diamond I am sure they can make you some custom pistons.
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Yeah, they can custom make a set... for $250 MORE than the standard off the shelf stock

I did find these Lunati Pistons that have -10cc. They are for a 4" stroke / 6.125 rod / 3.899 bore- which would put me at 9.6:1 CR. But the only thing I don't understand is the bore of 3.899?? Isn't the standard bore 3.898? No way a machine shop could hone .001 could they??
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You are right in that most stroker shelf pistons are made for a CR of about 11:1 with a 60ish CC combustion chamber or about 8.75:1 with a 70ish CC combustion chamber. I am building a 408 N/A Stroker for my daily driver truck and I want to keep the static CR at 9.5:1 so that I can run 87 octane. Assuming that I use 72 CC combustion chamber heads, this results in a -18 CC dish on the pistons. I now have some -18 CC custom Wiseco pistons with a 1.105" compression height. You won't find the pistons you are looking for without going to a custom piston unless some company has recently started marketing them recently and I don't know about it.

Most folks want relatively high compression for normally aspirated applications with high octane fuel or relatively low compression for forced induction. There isn't much in between with shelf pistons.

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hey chad this chris with sdpc. i can get you a set mahle pistons with a 3.905 bore and a -6cc dish. if you think you might be interested i can get these in a piston ring combo. pm me if you want price or call..
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Thanks for the offer negen, but I need more of a dish as stated in my original post. I was however looking at your site and came across some lunati pistons that may work for me. look at the link in my second post in this thread. I'll send you a PM.
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well the mahle #ls1105905126 will work awesome, but it is a 3.905" piston, i would rather hone the block over, than buy a custom set myself. they are also a -26cc dish.
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-26cc is way too deep. That would put me at 8.3 CR with 72cc heads or 8.7 with 67cc heads. I want at least 9.0. I'd preffer something in the range of 9.2~9.5...
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Take a little more off the heads and/or maybe a thiner head gasket.
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Its looking like it may come down to that... I'd rather make up the extra cc's in the head, but doesn't look like its possible with whats on the market
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I know exactly what you are going through. Last year at this time I was thinking the same issues through. I wound up just getting a 408 short block and called it a day......good luck.
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Diamond 11574, 28cc, Diamond 11504, 7cc. Or pony up and get what you need. Me, that's what I'd do. Plenty more where that went.
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well, you can always get about 2cc more out of the chamber, bringing you to 74, thicken the gasket up, i personally wouldn't go over .060, gasket bore size, but that only helps a little. you would think buy now, most of these companys would have a shelf stock piston is that range.
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Originally Posted by JPH
well the mahle #ls1105905126 will work awesome, but it is a 3.905" piston, i would rather hone the block over, than buy a custom set myself. they are also a -26cc dish.
Where can I find those pistons? I did a search and can't find that particular model#...
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it's in the mahle catalog.
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I have some custom JE dished pistons for sale, were installed but never run, I will check the CC tomorrow. These were $900 new, I think $600 is current asking price. PM me if you are interested.
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Originally Posted by JPH
it's in the mahle catalog.
Do they have an online catalog? I can't find it on their website. Even when I type that number into their search, I get no results...

Brian- Sent PM. Please let me know the specs on those and why they were never run. Thanks
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Originally Posted by ChevyChad
Do they have an online catalog? I can't find it on their website. Even when I type that number into their search, I get no results...

Brian- Sent PM. Please let me know the specs on those and why they were never run. Thanks
MAHLE #LS1105905I26
BORE=3.905
STROKE=4.00
ROD LENGTH=6.125
PIN DIA.=.927
-26CC DISH
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Thanks JPH Is that the only dished piston they have for a 4" stroke and 3.898 thru 3.905 bore besides a -7cc?


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