Drag Racing Results - New Cam only bests with my G5X4

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This all happened at a track rental today here in MD. Race weight is 3600 lbs. All in all I am happy the car has come this far and hopefully with a little weight reduction it should run 10.9*'s. There were some passes where I went 7.15 in the 1/8th at 96 mph and these definitely would've been 11.1* passes but because my stick was loose I missed 4th and went into 6th. :judge:

Congrats again!! Damn LS1s :drive: :judge: :bang: :chug:

--Alan

Awsome times there Larry!!! She is sure pulling hard for a 3600lb tank!!

Congratulations! Great numbers especially for your race weight.

John

you did that at 3600 lbs? thats nuts. your 60' isnt that great for that sort of et (when you think of the weight of the car). it must move out in the midrange.

larry, congrats man! you have worked hard as shit at that car for forever and now it starts to pay off. even though your hardheaded im glad for your new best especially since its cam only at your weight :hail:

larry, congrats man! you have worked hard as shit at that car for forever and now it starts to pay off. even though your hardheaded im glad for your new best especially since its cam only at your weight :hail:
:cheers: Thats a very nice compliment. You are right though Choppin, he is hard headed. :lol:

you did that at 3600 lbs? thats nuts. your 60' isnt that great for that sort of et (when you think of the weight of the car). it must move out in the midrange.


Thanks shes is picking up 26-27 mph after the 8th. I seen some 96.00 mph yesterday but blew the pass by missing 4th

larry, congrats man! you have worked hard as shit at that car for forever and now it starts to pay off. even though your hardheaded im glad for your new best especially since its cam only at your weight :hail:


Thanks man you definitely know how long Ive been fighting with this thing I am just finally happy to see it all come together

congrats on the new best. thats smoking for a 3600 car. what headers & exhaust are running?

Old style QTP HVM headers and y pipe with a bastardized Loud mouth

Thanks shes is picking up 26-27 mph after the 8th. I seen some 96.00 mph yesterday but blew the pass by missing 4th


26-27 mph gain from the 1/8 to ¼ is outstanding for a NA car. What gear ratio and tire size are you running?

John

26-27 mph gain from the 1/8 to ¼ is outstanding for a NA car. What gear ratio and tire size are you running?

John


4.56 with a 28*10.5 stiff sidewall hooiser slick

Old style QTP HVM headers and y pipe with a bastardized Loud mouth

looks like its time for the GB true duals :judge:

That is hauling the mail, what are you shifting that thing at? Specs on the cam?

shifting at 6700 specs on the cam are undisclosed per LG. I just installed it striaght up and went about my business

Here is some videos

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=183804937355319310&pr=goog-sl

Congrats Larry, great driving too. :drive: :)

Bruce

Congrats Bro!! Glad to see things come together for you this year! :drive:

Very nice! I will be setting mine up alot like your.

I have mine picking up 25-26mph from 1/8-1/4. I plan to change my setup when the springtime (good weather) is about over. I will be swapping gears, tires and cam. I still haven't stepped up from the TR224 yet.
I also need more than a 4.10 gear and more tire. My best was 11.48@122.48 on a blown 1.69 60ft. Sure needed my normal 1.60. What sucked, I got one pass in before it started raining. Think I had a high 11.2-low 11.3 in it If I'd got another one. But there is lots of good weather racing coming up real soon!

fast fucker...

shifting at 6700 specs on the cam are undisclosed per LG. I just installed it striaght up and went about my business


6700???? have you tried shifting at higher rpms? it SHOULD help. try shifting at 7-7200. a cam that big should probably shifted around there.

jugger had his G5x3 and i believe he shifted at 7100. :drive:

I also have the G5X4 and I also get best results shifting at 6700~6800. I think the dot to dot installation could have something to do with it. Mine made peak power a solid 300 rpm lower than several others with this cam and I'm guessing HumpinSS also made peak power a little lower too. Dot to dot is probably ok 99% of the time but what about that slight chance the dot was off a tooth or two? :jest:

BTW, nice time and congrats! :hail:

weird... sweet times none the less!

Wow man. That thing is pretty nasty. I'm in the market for some 205s and a cam. Maybe I should call LG tomorrow and talk with them about this cam.
The one I took out was a x3 clone. I sure would like to see what the real thing does. LOL.
And Chad tunes my car.... I'm sure you could get him right up to speed on the tuning. Hmm.

And Chad tunes my car.... I'm sure you could get him right up to speed on the tuning. Hmm.

I don't know. It is a fairly big cam. We might have to take it to him to get every last HP and make her RUN... :jest:

Congrats Larry & nice tuning job Chad :cheers:

Btw did ya hit 7000rpm at finish line Larry or abit more ?!

peace

Congrats Larry & nice tuning job Chad :cheers:

Btw did ya hit 7000rpm at finish line Larry or abit more ?!

peace


She is turning about 6600 thru the traps and yes Chad is the bomb tuner but I doubt he had a cable long enough to go from Indiana to Maryland :jest: LOL

She is turning about 6600 thru the traps and yes Chad is the bomb tuner but I doubt he had a cable long enough to go from Indiana to Maryland :jest: LOL

Don't be upset. We all know I do mail order tunes. :lol:

She is turning about 6600 thru the traps and yes Chad is the bomb tuner but I doubt he had a cable long enough to go from Indiana to Maryland :jest: LOL

Oops i thought the car tuned by Chad anyway good job :)

peace

Nice times. What was the DA? What do you launch at? I can't seam to break 1.60 60's and my car is very similar. 3600lbs, cam only, M6, 4.56s, 28" tires...I was shifting my car at 6700 then brought it up to 7k and went slower. I have a T-Rex, but the same principal here. These big cams don't seam to make power as high as you would think. Next season I am trying 6500. It peaks at 6300. I am switching to 4.11s and 26" tires though. The 4.56s are just too much. I drive with 26" tall tires on the street most of the time anyhow.

Nice times. What was the DA?


-515


What do you launch at?

6200 off the 2 step

Missing gears sux on good runs. I feel ya.

Do you have the 90/90 yet?

yup 90/90 only thing i dont have are rockers and an EWP

Rockers?

EWP not worth it IMHO.

Rockers?

EWP not worth it IMHO.


yea... you can't have aftermarket rocker arms if you're claiming "cam-only"

i also have not heard many good things about the EWP. atleast not for the money you spend.

I seen one dyno article that showed the EWP making 4hp. But 4 here and 5 there help get it up to the 450+ range.


How streetable is this cam? Does it make good low end power as well or is it all top end?I talked to Anthony @ LG today.

4 hp for $600

Like I said not worth it.

Put 400 more to that and buy some PRC heads

$1000 = 40 hp or $600 for 4 hp :gtfo:

I seen one dyno article that showed the EWP making 4hp. But 4 here and 5 there help get it up to the 450+ range.


How streetable is this cam? Does it make good low end power as well or is it all top end?I talked to Anthony @ LG today.


Its making 350 ft/lbs@ 3000-3200 rpm its making enought bottom end LOL

Its making 350 ft/lbs@ 3000-3200 rpm its making enought bottom end LOL

Not bad. Do you plan on adding heads to it later?

yea... you can't have aftermarket rocker arms if you're claiming "cam-only"

i also have not heard many good things about the EWP. atleast not for the money you spend.

:jest: Aren't you the one saying stronger rod bolts should be allowed for the stock bottom end list? :jest:

For what it's worth, last winter I added a Mezzier H2O pump and an unported FAST 90/90 combo and picked up 23 rwhp on the same dyno. I'm guessing the H2O pump had something to do with that. So $1700/23rwhp = $73.91/hp. Pretty expensive but headers are about $60/hp. If you're crunched for money then I guess it's not a very good mod.

:jest: Aren't you the one saying stronger rod bolts should be allowed for the stock bottom end list? :jest:

For what it's worth, last winter I added a Mezzier H2O pump and an unported FAST 90/90 combo and picked up 23 rwhp on the same dyno. I'm guessing the H2O pump had something to do with that. So $1700/23rwhp = $73.91/hp. Pretty expensive but headers are about $60/hp. If you're crunched for money then I guess it's not a very good mod.


More like $1100 for 90/90 = 20 hp and $600 EWP = 3 hp

Just not worth it IMHO until you have bought EVERYTHING else.

Congrats again Larry. Always nice to have somebody to motivate me to go faster :bang: :jest:

The MPH makes me a little jealous. Now we need some cages to legally race :devil:

Nice times. What was the DA? What do you launch at? I can't seam to break 1.60 60's and my car is very similar. 3600lbs, cam only, M6, 4.56s, 28" tires...I was shifting my car at 6700 then brought it up to 7k and went slower. I have a T-Rex, but the same principal here. These big cams don't seam to make power as high as you would think. Next season I am trying 6500. It peaks at 6300. I am switching to 4.11s and 26" tires though. The 4.56s are just too much. I drive with 26" tall tires on the street most of the time anyhow.

Dont change the rear, its perfect for what you are doing. 4.56s, little M/T 275 drag radials, and seen a couple 1.4x 60 fts cam only here, with a small cam. Leaves off the limiter if the tires dont shake and the track is there.

Yes, everyone Im racing should buy an EWP ;)

Dont change the rear, its perfect for what you are doing. 4.56s, little M/T 275 drag radials, and seen a couple 1.4x 60 fts cam only here, with a small cam. Leaves off the limiter if the tires dont shake and the track is there.


Hmmm...I will take this to heart. How tall? The 60 or 50 series tires?

:jest: Aren't you the one saying stronger rod bolts should be allowed for the stock bottom end list? :jest: .


yea - rod bolts don't add power, and they're cheap insurance to keeping your rotating assembly together.

rocker arms will add power...
so i'd say that makes them an unfair advantage if one is claiming "cam-only" ... does that not make sense?

or do we need to make another poll, or maybe even another list altogether. :judge:

Well rods don't add power so would that be SI parts too? Come on...SI means factory parts internally. Meaning anything that touches oil is internal.

Well rods don't add power so would that be SI parts too? Come on...SI means factory parts internally. Meaning anything that touches oil is internal.

"any that touches oil" is for stock internal yes.

but we're talking about "cam-only."

there was never a "rule" against using aftermarket rod bolts for the cam-only guys.

to what matters in THIS thread is that the guy is claiming cam-only and saying he's getting rocker arms soon. i was just saying he couldn't still claim cam-only after adding rocker arms.

to what matters in THIS thread is that the guy is claiming cam-only and saying he's getting rocker arms soon. i was just saying he couldn't still claim cam-only after adding rocker arms.


No I said the only things I dont have were "rocker arms and EWP"


"yup 90/90 only thing i dont have are rockers and an EWP"

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6173957&postcount=34

Hmmm...I will take this to heart. How tall? The 60 or 50 series tires?

60 series. Ive only made 7 passes this year with it and havent driven a car in 2 or 3 years. Likely more left in it. With the right driveline setup you could do low 1.5xs for sure. Im sure you could see a trap speed in the same ballpark as with good front half of the track, decent air and everything sorted out.

What kind of power does the car put down? Mine only makes 410 thru the stock catback like I raced it, so Im sure yours is very capable of running very close if not at the 11.2-11.3 mark. HumpinSS car trapped 119 for the last year or two until he put it together on some good air and work on getting the car to leave, so you on the same pace

60 series. Ive only made 7 passes this year with it and havent driven a car in 2 or 3 years. Likely more left in it. With the right driveline setup you could do low 1.5xs for sure. Im sure you could see a trap speed in the same ballpark as with good front half of the track, decent air and everything sorted out.

My car hauls the back half. I found out one of the main caps in my rear was loose. And my TA mount on the trans was loose too. So maybe after those are fixed it will do better out of the hole. I also just picked up adj. LCAs and PHR to get the rear square. And I plan on getting some rear shocks. I am hoping for some 1.5Xs this year.

Wow! 3 years without racing?! I could not do that. Nice work then. Sure is more there then.

No I said the only things I dont have were "rocker arms and EWP"


"yup 90/90 only thing i dont have are rockers and an EWP"

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6173957&postcount=34


my bad man.
sweet runs

What kind of power does the car put down? Mine only makes 410 thru the stock catback like I raced it, so Im sure yours is very capable of running very close if not at the 11.2-11.3 mark. HumpinSS car trapped 119 for the last year or two until he put it together on some good air and work on getting the car to leave, so you on the same pace

It did 391/374 on a Mustang Dyno. I have put on a ported TB since then. And I think the rear was messed up then too so should be closer to 400 I think. I trapped 119 in +1000 DA. I am still learning the car. I have only made like 100 passes in my life so I am a novice. I also have great mid range. I really think I am shifting way too high. I was trapping the same in like 500ft shifting at 7k vs. 6700 at 1000ft. Do you run a 2-step?

3 years without racing because Ive been putting everyone elses car together :)

Dumb stuff like http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/choppin-suey/?action=view&current=PumpGasdrag2006.flv

http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/choppin-suey/?action=view&current=steve8second.flv

Tell me about working the back half, my 11.33 was 93.3 in the eigth and 122.7 in the quarter, even with a 1.50 60 ft. Rusty shifting! Larry sounds like you were driving it full out last times out, still want to compare the ghey shifting logs? I think your doign a much better job on that than me

Congrats! Doesn't look like the air was extremely exceptional either from the temps on the slips. Little weight reduction, some cold air and 10s are yours!

HumpinSS, Did you fly cut the pistons with that cam?

Nope sure didnt