TT402LS1

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Any turbo guys have any trouble with ceramic coating burning or flacking off? The reason I asking is I seen some dyno pulls on Nelson Racing web site, and the headers were glowing (321 stainless) right before the turbo. Can ceramic handle this kind of heat???

Thanks - Ron

1INSANEGTO

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Yeah depending on coating. Check out jethots site. Different coatings for different temps

02SSLE

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but jethot doesn't recomend the cerimic coating. I am currently going threw this.

black98ws6ta

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Ceramic silver coating will not hold up, most of the coatings rated for the turbo temperatures are black, red and blue. Unless there is soemthing new I'm not aware of.

TT402LS1

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What kind of pipe temps are we talking about with a turbo setup?

Wnts2Go10O

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1000+ i believe

black98ws6ta

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The coatings I mentioned earlier are 2000 degree coatings, it is not unusual to see 1500 going into the turbo.

ZL1Killa

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i have easily seen 1000 to 1100 getting on it (measuring before cat with pyrometer) and around idle i see typically 700+ to 800 driving around town, after a while it goes to 600 at idle

black98ws6ta

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In the downpipe right?

Boo"SS"t

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From what i was told, silver coatings are rated up to around 1200'ish degrees, and black around 1400'ish? but turbo manifolds/headers gets up to 1700??...... so, you would be better off w/ the black coating. I personally have a silver hi-temp coating on my 321 stainless logstyle headers and some areas are now starting to flake-off after only 4-5k miles , i should have gone with the black. Oh, well!

1INSANEGTO

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I have the Black 2000 degree coating on the exhust housing of my new turbo.

02SSLE

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Jet hot offers three colors in 2000 degree coating Red Gray and Black I am going with Gray.

FastKat

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I am going to try Swaintech... from what I could find out they have the most hearty coating around. The coating is called White Lightning, check it out:

http://www.swaintech.com/store.asp?pid=10969

-Dave

ninetres

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I used a local company that has a national reputation. They have a patented "Cerma-krome" that is VERY nice, but not quite enough heat durability. They also have a "high-heat" coating that handles in the neighbor hood of 1600-2000*. It comes in black and a dark grey color.

http://www.capsbhc.com/index.htm

I used it in my crossover and it is flawless after ~2000 miles:

DeltaT

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Here's the dark grey, hi heat coating on the 3 sections of the pressure side of the A2A intercooled Vortech setup I built:

Before:




After:



It was coated at Spray Technologies, Santa Clara, CA, and they said the black and grey were rated to 1800' and the silver about 11-1200.

There's 2 sections you can't see, one before the FMIC and one after. The 3 together cost $100 to get coated, which included a final blasting, acid dip and coat. It's pretty tough stuff. resists scratches, and cleans off well. The inside looks the same as the outside.

Jim

My Site: http://home.mindspring.com/~jim_fisk/id1.html

TT402LS1

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Thanks fro the imput guys! I was looking to use the Jet Hot 1400* ceramic inside and out. Does the coating do a good job reducing heat? Or can it still burn wires? My headers are going to be in a tight area, close to the wires. What about the inside of the pipe? Will the coating most likly flake off and go thew the tubos (exhaust)? How much better is the black 2000* coatings as far as flaking and heat control? Anyone use them both, and can tell me the differance?

Thanks - Ron

Whistler

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You can run the chrome ceramic finish on turbo pipes depending on your tune and EGTs. For an agressive more race oriented engine that still needs bling appeal I have applied chrome over top of the turbo black and it's held on for two years on a TSO Grand National making 200 RWHP per cylinder.
Aside from the satin blacks and blues, I have a red coating now that I've had up to 1750 EGT that still retained it's gloss after coolong off.

TT402LS1

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I was also wondering about that. (chrome over black coating) I would like a nice show finish! But when it comes down to it, I would chose what ever was need on a performance stand point. I will be pushing my motor hard on the dyno (engine) to see what the max tune is on pump gas. Im looking to run somewhere in the 14-16 psi range, maybe more. So, I do need a good coating that will not only look good, but it needs to perform as well. (keep the heat in & not flake or crack)

Thanks - Ron

Whistler

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The turbo black coating that I and others in the industry will apply will take whatever heat your engine will produce and not peel or crack. The chrome coating over top would provide an additional insulating layer, drop your engine compartment temps a little more, but be mostly cosmetic.

TT402LS1

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