I swear... sometimes you find them in the weirdest places!
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I swear... sometimes you find them in the weirdest places!
So I went to help a buddy of mine put his car to storage at the local airport (he has a garage there). Next to his building there is this guy working on his PLANE engine, all I could see was about 2 feet of nose w/ the propeller...
Having huge interest in engines in general I went to check what a plane engine might look like. Then my heart stopped! Guys... that dude was swapping his old "LS1" engine for a new LS7 CRATE! so Im like Wtffff! Ive seen tons of interesting swaps with LS type engines... but a in plane!?
I talked with him a bit about the LS1, then he tells me that it came from an 00 Vette, and that he had about 30hours of flight with it. Worked perfect but wanted to extra HP from the LS7. Anyways, long story short, I bought it and will use it for my Camaro.
The vette pan was tricked to fit in the small and cluttered plane engine bay. Throttle was modified too. All the rest is oem I believe. Altho it might not be cause he said that, for a "non-conventionnal" engine to be installed into a plane, it needs to pass numerous safety tests, and then said that it had been dynoed @ 400hp.
Hmm now that I think of... Vette of those here were 345rwhp stock. so I guess that 400hp @ the propeller is about right. Look at the silly colors the engine was painted too (He had to paint it that color). I started the tear down today, and stripping all the paint from it to get it back to its all aluminum glory. LS6 valley cover and intake will be added before going in the car, same for the cam and valvetrain. Not sure what Im going with tho atm.
Look at the weird front timing cover? sup with that? Notice the pan too, I was talking earlier, and the custom throttle body. I can send more pics if needed. Anyone know whats going on there?
Having huge interest in engines in general I went to check what a plane engine might look like. Then my heart stopped! Guys... that dude was swapping his old "LS1" engine for a new LS7 CRATE! so Im like Wtffff! Ive seen tons of interesting swaps with LS type engines... but a in plane!?
I talked with him a bit about the LS1, then he tells me that it came from an 00 Vette, and that he had about 30hours of flight with it. Worked perfect but wanted to extra HP from the LS7. Anyways, long story short, I bought it and will use it for my Camaro.
The vette pan was tricked to fit in the small and cluttered plane engine bay. Throttle was modified too. All the rest is oem I believe. Altho it might not be cause he said that, for a "non-conventionnal" engine to be installed into a plane, it needs to pass numerous safety tests, and then said that it had been dynoed @ 400hp.
Hmm now that I think of... Vette of those here were 345rwhp stock. so I guess that 400hp @ the propeller is about right. Look at the silly colors the engine was painted too (He had to paint it that color). I started the tear down today, and stripping all the paint from it to get it back to its all aluminum glory. LS6 valley cover and intake will be added before going in the car, same for the cam and valvetrain. Not sure what Im going with tho atm.
Look at the weird front timing cover? sup with that? Notice the pan too, I was talking earlier, and the custom throttle body. I can send more pics if needed. Anyone know whats going on there?
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Originally Posted by LS1Formulation
That is absurd! Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought airplane engines had to have 2 plugs per cylinder in case one fouled out, with a redundant ignition system.
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Maplered: Paid 2k for it w/computer and the crappy plane harness... They are VERY rare up here in quebec. When there is one up for sale, people are usually asking 3.5-4k for engine only.
Powershift: The paint had started to crack and chip, and an all aluminum engine looks better in its original glory imo.
Stolelt, LS1Formulation: Here is a link showing you something similar to the guy I bought it from. Im in no way an expert @ plane stuff. But it had an LS1 sitting in front. lol (now LS7)
---> http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?...=post&id=20143
Powershift: The paint had started to crack and chip, and an all aluminum engine looks better in its original glory imo.
Stolelt, LS1Formulation: Here is a link showing you something similar to the guy I bought it from. Im in no way an expert @ plane stuff. But it had an LS1 sitting in front. lol (now LS7)
---> http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?...=post&id=20143
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I'm guessing the huge turbo would be to supply the engine with dense air at higher altitudes, which in turn would keep it from stalling out. The air up there is a lot colder as well, hence the lack of an intercooler. Not to mention it's going to have about 175 MPH of ram air forced into the inlet bell of the turbo, depending on the induction setup.
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Originally Posted by LS1Formulation
I'm guessing the huge turbo would be to supply the engine with dense air at higher altitudes, which in turn would keep it from stalling out. The air up there is a lot colder as well, hence the lack of an intercooler. Not to mention it's going to have about 175 MPH of ram air forced into the inlet bell of the turbo, depending on the induction setup.
The cam in the motor is probably like a boat motors cam, in that its designed to produce a flat power/torque curve over the engines rpm range.
What is interesting (havent looked at pics yet) is how they made one of these engines survive inverted and vertical flight, where the oil would not be naturally falling back to the sump for pickup by the oil pump. These motors where designed to be run oil pan facing the ground at all times.
The modded pan and timing cover mentioned probably has something to do with the airplane owners remedy to such a design problem.
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looked at the pics, looks like the oil pan was just modded for clearance... But they had to of done something with the oil system to keep it lubricated when climbing or flying inverted???
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Fire67: Im planning to remove the oil pan this weekend. The truth lies probably there. Maybe a dry sump system was installed in the plane? I have to go near the airport tomorrow, if I didnt find anything, Ill stop by and ask the guy that sold it to me.
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The plane had to be an experimental type. Here in the states the experimental has to be placed so any passenger can clearly see what they are getting into. A turbo is not required at altitudes below 10K. We can drive our cars throught the mountians. Above that the pilot / passengers will become unconcious from lack of oxygen. For an aircraft to fly inverted it has to be rated for acrobatic flight, and for that matter steep dives and climbing manuevers also, which I'm sure this one was not.
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There is a websight which sells ls-1's for airplanes somewhere. This was gone over a couple years ago. Evidently there are a lot of small planes with ls-1's in them due to them being light, powerful, and reliable.
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Originally Posted by Fire67
looked at the pics, looks like the oil pan was just modded for clearance... But they had to of done something with the oil system to keep it lubricated when climbing or flying inverted???
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Here are some more plane pics. Shows the dry sump system also.
http://members.iquest.net/~aca/photos.htm
http://members.iquest.net/~aca/photos.htm
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slightly off topic but you are able to go above 10k feet without going unconscious. depending on how high you go and how long you are there it can take hours before you get any symptons from lack of oxygen. Of course if you have supplemental oxygen that is not an issue. just a fun fact of the day
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Thats it, when I get my own house with a shop, I am getting my pilots license for the sole reason of building this plane and flying it. http://members.iquest.net/~aca/photos.htm
They better still be sell the kit when I have the means.
They better still be sell the kit when I have the means.