Street Racing & Kill Stories - 2000 WS6 vs. 99 Steeda

I just bought a 2000 M6 NBM WS6 Trans Am completely stock. I'm not a good driver at all but I raced my buddy with a 99 Steeda GT Mustang Full Patriot Head/Cam set up, LT headers, Ractive exhaust, intake, Saleen underdrive pulleys, and more... Thought I was gonna get my ass kicked but we raced 3 times and I won the 25 roll, 35 roll, and I spun them through 1st and 2nd on out dig launch so we just stopped. Anyways that's it, had the car for a week and a half and some dumbass hit me so I'm waiting to get the car back the whole left side had to be repainted and both right wheels refinished, sucks...

If he really had a good ported head/cams combo, he would have just as much power as you, if not more... And I don't think Ractive makes exhaust for Mustangs. But anyway, good kill, and tell him to practice some more :drive:

ahhh steeda the poor mans saleen

Thats pretty sad on the mustangs part......

Thats pretty sad on the mustang driver's part......
Fixed it for you ;)

If he really had a good ported head/cams combo, he would have just as much power as you, if not more... And I don't think Ractive makes exhaust for Mustangs. But anyway, good kill, and tell him to practice some more :drive:


He did, the car dynoed around 300-320 rwhp it was really close, probabaly 2-3 car lengths by the end, never said I killed him.. but hey cool coulda just said good job... :321:

Thanks for the congrats...? Wow not such a friendly forum... :confused:

Mustangs are fast compared to imports but to an LS1, unless the mustang is a cobra, your most likely going to lose.

He did, the car dynoed around 300-320 rwhp it was really close, probabaly 2-3 car lengths by the end, never said I killed him.. but hey cool coulda just said good job... :321:

Thanks for the congrats...? Wow not such a friendly forum... :confused:
I said good kill... just saying that I think with more practice, it'll be a MUCH closer race than that. Nothing to knock you or anything :drive: . And Killstories, a 5spd Mach 1 is a pretty much a driver's race with an F-body ;)

And Killstories, a 5spd Mach 1 is a pretty much a driver's race with an F-body ;) A Mach 1 will do a hell of a lot better than a normal mustang, but a LS1 fbody will still destroy it stock for stock.....for less money to.....and better looks.

Nice kill. The stock power of an LS1 is very good.

A Mach 1 will do a hell of a lot better than a normal mustang, but a LS1 fbody will still destroy it stock for stock.....for less money to.....and better looks.

:eyes: They're way more capable than you think. It is a driver's race stock for stock, period. There used to be a video on here of a stock internal Mach 1 running low 12s; the guy's name was BONESTOCK or something.

I said good kill... just saying that I think with more practice, it'll be a MUCH closer race than that. Nothing to knock you or anything :drive: . And Killstories, a 5spd Mach 1 is a pretty much a driver's race with an F-body ;)


I know I was just messing with you. I had riden in an LS1 Trans Am like the one I just got ONCE before I bought mine (where the guy actually got on it) I never knew how ridiculous they were. I have had so much fun already. I will get up pictures of this Mustang, I was just excited because I thought this thing would kill me, it's IMO the CLEANEST mustang I have seen of this body style. And it's SOOO loud (in a clean way) I just love his car all around. But in terms of driving, we were without a doubt evenly matched, I missed 3rd from each roll (finally catching it) but it was a good race here are some pics...
My friends Mustang...
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f366/Niclaz07/MINE2.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f366/Niclaz07/MINE.jpg

My WS6 before I got hit... :(
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f366/Niclaz07/nics.jpg

:eyes: They're way more capable than you think. It is a driver's race stock for stock, period. There used to be a video on here of a stock internal Mach 1 running low 12s; the guy's name was BONESTOCK or something.
That Killstories guy is nothing but a trolling moron. He does nothing but bash. :gtfo:

Edit: And to OP, nice Mustang, and nice Trans Am... I wanted a WS6 before I got my '01 GT.

That Killstories guy is nothing but a trolling moron. He does nothing but bash. :gtfo:

Edit: And to OP, nice Mustang, and nice Trans Am... I wanted a WS6 before I got my '01 GT.

and just about every time I see a post that you made its trying to find an excuse that a mustang got beat by an F-body. I'm not bashing, just mearly stating the facts.

You say "making an excuse" because you probably have a bias. I don't have any bias whatsoever, because I've owned just about everything, and can appreciate many different types of cars. If somebody beats somebody worse than they should, I tell them. If a race goes how it would with equal drivers, then I never have anything to say. Like when people say that an LS1 would "destroy" a Mach 1. That's not true, so of course I'm going to counter that claim.

Well thanks for the compliments on my TA I will pass the ones for the stang onto my friend. Anyways it was a fun race and I can't wait to get the car back and start modding! :headbang:

I agree with the last sentence you posted there. But you defend GT's an awful lot and try to justify a reason for the loss when the simple fact is that they are much weaker than any LS1 and will be killed with full bolt'ons and a poor driver in the LS1 equipped vehicle.

Full bolt-on GT can run mid 13s with the right driver... I see quite a few LS1s at the track running 14s. They SHOULD be faster, but with bolt-ons, a 99-04 GT has a fighting chance from a stop, till about 70-80mph. And if the GT has 3.73s or 4.10s, it becomes even closer. I don't solely try to "defend Mustangs," I just try to correct misinformation. It just happens that alot of the threads here involve Mustangs, lol.

Awesome kill for the thread starter. I've been wanting to run into a cammed or H/C 99-04 GT too.

But I'm siding with Irunelevens overall.

A (well built) H/C 99 GT with good tires and a stall if auto should easily beat a stock LS1. A manual Mach 1 should run dead heat with any stock LS1 F-body, although the automatic Mach 1s sucked. And a full-bolt on GT with good tires and gears and possibly stall, can put down about 270rwhp and with traction, from a dig should hang with a stock LS1. A full bolt-on GT will lose it's edge to an LS1 F-body from a roll to very high speeds (especially with stock gears), I've beaten one very badly from 50-130.

For the most part this forum is biased toward GM (suprise!), and I can see that Irunelevens is posting unbiased and respectful numbers, as most Mustang owners on this site tend to.

Thank you :drive:

Nice kill. I just hope that your are fortunate enough to have all the body lines match up again after the wreck.

Nice kill, and that Stang looks bad, as does your TA. I agree with IRUNELEVENS, that a H/C GT in most cases should take a stock LS1 without much trouble, but hey it's a street race and drivers are different. And his posts dont seem like he's defending Mustangs at all, some of you could say the same about me, but there are some on here that really just take the phrase "mustangs are slow and suck" and run with it. So like IRUNELEVENS said if I see something that doesn't seem right, I speak up.

Nice kill. I just hope that your are fortunate enough to have all the body lines match up again after the wreck.


??? It was just paint damage...

Silverstang, IRUNELEVENS, and mpe488 - :thumb:


Like I have said before.........there is alot of mis information being thrown around in here....and I simply like to inform people.

ElEx - Nice runs. We can all say the stang should have one...but that day..he didn't. Congrats, and I hope you get your car back shortly.

Killstories....WOW, just WOW.

Silverstang, IRUNELEVENS, and mpe488 - :thumb:


Like I have said before.........there is alot of mis information being thrown around in here....and I simply like to inform people.

ElEx - Nice runs. We can all say the stang should have one...but that day..he didn't. Congrats, and I hope you get your car back shortly.

Killstories....WOW, just WOW.


O ok, well I'm gonna go ahead and disagree, because our driving was definetly evenly matched if not him at the advantage. So really not to much to decide... the car with more power won. period. Now... is that mustang tuned to it's full potential? Mostly likely not, so could this mustang beat me in the future? Sure, quite possible.
But hey thanks for the nice runs part. :bash:

??? It was just paint damage...

Oh, misinterpreted what you wrote.

O ok, well I'm gonna go ahead and disagree, because our driving was definetly evenly matched if not him at the advantage. So really not to much to decide... the car with more power won. period. Now... is that mustang tuned to it's full potential? Mostly likely not, so could this mustang beat me in the future? Sure, quite possible.
But hey thanks for the nice runs part. :bash:


Maybe you misunderstood me...I was not trying to be a dick. I was simply saying people can post it shoudl have won...but it didn't. I was not being a smartass. :confused:

Mustangs are fast compared to imports but to an LS1, unless the mustang is a cobra, your most likely going to lose.

Go and race a stock LS1 f-body (any tranny) versus a stock '03/04 Mach 1 M5 and tell us how the race went. You will find that it was prolly dead even. People don't understand that Cobras aren't the only Mustangs with the 4v mod motor. :)

Go and race a stock LS1 f-body (any tranny) versus a stock '03/04 Mach 1 M5 and tell us how the race went. You will find that it was prolly dead even. People don't understand that Cobras aren't the only Mustangs with the 4v mod motor. :)

Finally..some F'ing respect. That seems to be wearing thin around here in regards to 4V new edge stangs. :thumb: