Street Racing & Kill Stories - 01 zo6 vs 99 eclipse gsx

had a pretty good race last night. i didnt get it on video. the battery died earlier. i was on my way home when this guy pulls along side of me in his 99 eclipse. at first i didnt want to even waste my gas. but he was just begging to get smoked. his girlfriend was hanging out the window calling me a chicken and saying i didnt have a chance. so i gave in. we did a 30mph roll. 3 honks and we took off. i immediately jumped on him by about 2 lengths but he stayed right there till around 90. we pulled into a gas station after the race to talk and he told me my z06 had to be modded to stay ahead of him like that. he said he was putting down like 301hp and 270tq. i dont know about that but he said i was a liar and i just shook my head. i even showed hime my engine and everything. anyways, what is wrong with people nowadays? sore losers are everywhere.

:eek2: Holy shit he was puttin down 300HP!!!!! :eek2:
You are a liar u used nawwwsss didn't you!! LIAR!!!

HAHAHA! :jest: What the hell, you make that stock. Guess thats big numbers in the land of small engines. I used to drive an eclipse and 300hp IS NOT a big number for those engines.

when you talked to the guy, you should have thrown an empty water bottle at his girl.

that would have been classic.. cause when it hit her in the head it would make that funny sound and then you could call her an idiot.

:eek2: Holy shit he was puttin down 300HP!!!!! :eek2:
You are a liar u used nawwwsss didn't you!! LIAR!!!

HAHAHA! :jest: What the hell, you make that stock. Guess thats big numbers in the land of small engines. I used to drive an eclipse and 300hp IS NOT a big number for those engines.

i dont know exactly what they were stock. maybe 210-220hp. i just thought it was funny.

Yeah Im not sure why he said you were lying. Those year Eclipses were pretty heavy and being an AWD he had the dissadvantage. Sounds like a good kill to me.

Yeah Im not sure why he said you were lying. Those year Eclipses were pretty heavy and being an AWD he had the dissadvantage. Sounds like a good kill to me.

what did they weigh? it couldnt be more than 3000lbs right? its such a small car.

Pretty sure there right around 3000 or alittle more. The 1st gen were the lightest and they were still around 2800 I believe. My car is fairly small too and it weighs almost 3300.

yeah my bad.. I meant second. which was wrong too.

99' GSX (second gen)

Engine Type 16-valve dual overhead cam
turbocharged 4-cylinder
Engine Size 2.0 liters / 122 cu. in.
Horsepower 210 @ 6000 rpm
Torque (lb-ft) 214 @ 3000 rpm
Transmission 5-speed manual
Wheelbase / Length 98.8 in. / 172.4 in.
Curb Weight 3157 lbs.
Pounds Per Horsepower 15.0
Fuel Capacity 15.9 gal.
Fuel Requirement unleaded premium (91 octane)
Tires P215 / 50 VR17 Goodyear Eagle RS-A
Brakes, front/rear vented disc / disc, antilock standard
Suspension, front/rear independent multi-link with coil springs/
independent multi-link with coil springs
Drivetrain front engine, all-wheel drive

I wonder what the outcome would have been if you went from a dig?(Turbo lag is the enemy)Hey their good cars, and have a lot of street cred. I have a 97 GSX and its my daily driver. They do great in the snow.(Don't see too many F bodies or vettes during winter) But there's a fine line between a turbo 4 cyl and an modern chevy muscle car. They put down some serious power w/ a LSx motor. I respect the American classics and all the cars on this forum. :usa:
I look forward to picking up F body or C5 this summer! :D

we pulled into a gas station after the race to talk and he told me my z06 had to be modded to stay ahead of him like that. he said he was putting down like 301hp and 270tq. i dont know about that but he said i was a liar and i just shook my head. i even showed hime my engine and everything. anyways, what is wrong with people nowadays? sore losers are everywhere.

good kill. he thought you were lying, because he was in denial, that he put sooo much time and effort into his car, and still looses to a stock car... :jest:

btw if you would of kept racing past 90, you probably would of put more distance on him

nice kill

i agree....if you went up to the triple digits you would have ended up pulling 2 cars a second....just way better aerodynamics and his AWD will KILL him in the triple digits

good kill. he thought you were lying, because he was in denial, that he put sooo much time and effort into his car, and still looses to a stock car... :jest:

btw if you would of kept racing past 90, you probably would of put more distance on him
I really wouldn't take that much to make 300whp out of a 4G63... but yes, still modded. But to the OP, yeah, I think if you're gonna call someone out, you better make DAMN sure you know what you're talking about. I can't stand trash-talkers. :judge: Good kill :drive:

Who's girl hangs out windows provoking races

slap that ho

Any moron with some cash can get 270TQ out of a GSX. Thats crappy tune and a 16G territory. Hell, thats good tune and a 14B territory. Kid must really think he is the shit LOL.

He probably thought he was racing a base C5 and that he was lighter.

Which is not really true, I'd bet the weight between the two is about even. He may have even been heavier with his ho girl. 2Gs are kinda porky, like 3200+. My 1G Laser is about 3000-3100. Its definitely lighter than a GSX by a significant amount.

Nice kill, way to be classy about it.

good kill :drive:

I hate the Evo so much, why because I REALLY wish they put that kind of performance into the other sport Mitsu cars.

A GSX with Evo VIIMIILIIIX whatever performance would be so much fun.

I still wish that they made a 3000 GT VR4 that didn't have a transmission straight outa a 1991 Ford Ranger.

It wasn't the tranny, as much as the flimsy transfer cases

^mid 200s WHP is pretty damn easy for a DSM at least. The trick would be getting the chassis to beahve that well, and honestly I dont think you ever really could get a 1G or 2G to have quite the Evo has in terms of its grip mixed with a ability to controll it with the throttle as well.

I like the Evo a lot overall, but after doing a clutch job on a IX I can tell you that driveline work can be a PITA if you're not used to the car. You cant actually drop the T-case out of the car without either moving the engine a bit or dropping a crossmember which the front controll arms are attached to. My 1G is so easy to work on, especially in comparison to that thing.

Good kill! This a guy who has no idea about other cars other than his own. If your going to mod your car to street race you better be informed about the competion out there because there is plenty. Z06= bad ass!

Good kill. People need to realize that there are different classes when it comes to cars and the Eclipse is not in the same class as the Z06. I know there are exceptions to this, but the majority of Eclipses are not going to be able to hang with a Z06.

You've gotta love it when when people are in denial. You can just sit and smile because you know they have no idea and that they got beat by a stock car. Nice kill!!

Good kill, the guy sounded like an ass. I don't understand why people are saying " OMG OWNED BY A STOCK CAR !! " uhh your comparing a $20,000 corvette to a 4 banger that probly cost the kid no more than $8000 for the car and mods.

A GSX only has one really good thing going for it.

It holds a serious underdog status.

So if it can beat the Z06 he can seriously work it; if it can't than ehhh.

They are pretty neat what with the AWD and the turbo. To bad the gen afterwards was a complete chick car. Otherwise they are probably the coolest car in the "Tuner" type category.

A 19 year old in a GSX is pretty damn cool if he beats a Z06, a 36 year old in a GSX beating a Z06 has some problems that he needs to talk about with a shrink.

I mean he probably needs to talk about his relation with his mother that he still lives with.

A GSX only has one really good thing going for it.

It holds a serious underdog status.

So if it can beat the Z06 he can seriously work it; if it can't than ehhh.

They are pretty neat what with the AWD and the turbo. To bad the gen afterwards was a complete chick car. Otherwise they are probably the coolest car in the "Tuner" type category.

A 19 year old in a GSX is pretty damn cool if he beats a Z06, a 36 year old in a GSX beating a Z06 has some problems that he needs to talk about with a shrink.

I mean he probably needs to talk about his relation with his mother that he still lives with.
:jest:

I bet that GSX owner has alot of overnight parts from Japan under that hood!! Nah, I just wanted to quote Fast & the Furious!! :bang: Good kill man!! That guy's G/F sounds like a douchette

a 36 year old in a GSX beating a Z06 has some problems that he needs to talk about with a shrink.

I mean he probably needs to talk about his relation with his mother that he still lives with.
hahaha

I was on a Scion forum and they just on saying JDM JDM JDM like it freakin' meant something.

Oh yeah alse the same part made in America is so much crappier than one made in Japan.

put them both in their place, what morons...

put them both in their place, what morons...


There are some pretty bad ones. I mean when a ricer tells a ricer to quit being a ricer, than you know the guy is a serious ricer.

Good kill! This a guy who has no idea about other cars other than his own. If your going to mod your car to street race you better be informed about the competion out there because there is plenty. Z06= bad ass!

And this is why I have a subscription to Super Street and Import Tuner. But after you get a few issues of it you realize that the cars they feature have unlimited budgets and you would never see on the street. So I can't even get properly informed about the competition. :(

The 4g63 is a great motor.

If you like to constantly work on it after you start modding. Google the term "crank walk" with 4g63.

I think its been fixed recently though.

The 4g63 is a great motor.

If you like to constantly work on it after you start modding. Google the term "crank walk" with 4g63.

I think its been fixed recently though.

Oh geez.

Crankwalk is extremly overrated because people, like you unfortunatly, spout it off every time they here DSM or 4G63. What you will find with that Google search is a ton of people claiming crankwalk everytime they have a problem with a motor no matter what the true cause. You will also find that 99% of them NEVER checked the crank endplay to determine of it was crankwalk or not. Instead they just say "oh man my motor walked on me" and proceed to tell all there friends about.

It is also very hard to fix something like crankwalk when no one knows what causes it.

I will politely ask that if someone doesn't really know what they are talking about to refrain from posting it as "information".

Oh geez.

Crankwalk is extremly overrated because people, like you unfortunatly, spout it off every time they here DSM or 4G63. What you will find with that Google search is a ton of people claiming crankwalk everytime they have a problem with a motor no matter what the true cause. You will also find that 99% of them NEVER checked the crank endplay to determine of it was crankwalk or not. Instead they just say "oh man my motor walked on me" and proceed to tell all there friends about.

It is also very hard to fix something like crankwalk when no one knows what causes it.

I will politely ask that if someone doesn't really know what they are talking about to refrain from posting it as "information".


It makes a damn good excuse though.

Just like "I missed a 2nd" or "I couldn't get any boost."

Now you want to see a crap problem the SHO and having to weld its camshaft...

The 4g63 is the LS1 of 4 bangers

The GSX driver was thinking he had a larger weight advantage when he actually had very little. The GSX I just built for my Son puts down 350+ WHP on street tune @20 PSI and should do right at 500 WHP on C-16 @ 28 PSI. Not too shabby for 4K worth the mods on a 9K car. Those kinda numbers aren't regularly seen in the avg. Eclipse though. The average modded Eclipse puts down about what the irritated loser in this thread put down. Nice kill.

Good kill, the guy sounded like an ass. I don't understand why people are saying " OMG OWNED BY A STOCK CAR !! " uhh your comparing a $20,000 corvette to a 4 banger that probly cost the kid no more than $8000 for the car and mods.


if anyone has a z06 for $20,000 please let me know

Oh geez.

Crankwalk is extremly overrated because people, like you unfortunatly, spout it off every time they here DSM or 4G63. What you will find with that Google search is a ton of people claiming crankwalk everytime they have a problem with a motor no matter what the true cause. You will also find that 99% of them NEVER checked the crank endplay to determine of it was crankwalk or not. Instead they just say "oh man my motor walked on me" and proceed to tell all there friends about.

It is also very hard to fix something like crankwalk when no one knows what causes it.

I will politely ask that if someone doesn't really know what they are talking about to refrain from posting it as "information".


I just used that as the big example that everyone knows about.

I've had two friends with that motor. One a GSx and one a GS-T. Those two motors have been pulled apart I don't know how many times trying to work out gremlins and shit.

The more power you make the more unreliable the engine gets. It just starts early with the 4g63. Although they make crazy hp/tq numbers given the small size of the engine.

They however aren't near as bad as I've seen with the rotaries. Been what? Almost 30 years since they've came out and they still haven't found out a way for them not to drink oil. lol

if anyone has a z06 for $20,000 please let me know

Good God me too...

I just used that as the big example that everyone knows about.

I've had two friends with that motor. One a GSx and one a GS-T. Those two motors have been pulled apart I don't know how many times trying to work out gremlins and shit.

The more power you make the more unreliable the engine gets. It just starts early with the 4g63. Although they make crazy hp/tq numbers given the small size of the engine.

They however aren't near as bad as I've seen with the rotaries. Been what? Almost 30 years since they've came out and they still haven't found out a way for them not to drink oil. lol

Ummm no.

The 4G63 itself is easily one of the strongest motors out there. I know MANY people making big power with them and they don't have problems with the motor itself. I would have to say that just those quick to play crankwalk your friend are quick to play the motor for poor maching work, parts, assembly and so on.

I am putting about 375 to the wheels and drove my Talon daily for a year and have taken it to California twice without so much as an oil leak.

if anyone has a z06 for $20,000 please let me know
$25,000 close enough

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=214998815&dealer_id=59216553&car_year=2001&model=CORV&num_records=25&make2=&start_year=2001&keywordsfyc=__WjA2__&keywordsrep=090048054&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&search_type=both&distance=0&make=CHEV&color=&min_price=0&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=32966&advanced=y&end_year=2001&doors=&transmission=&max_price=25000&cardist=946


http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=215166980&dealer_id=59233623&car_year=2001&search_type=both&num_records=25&keywordsfyc=__WjA2__&make=CHEV&transmission=&model=CORV&distance=0&make2=&address=32966&default_sort=priceDESC&advanced=y&certified=&max_mileage=&max_price=25000&sort_type=priceDESC&min_price=0&body_code=0&end_year=2001&keywordsrep=090048054&color=&start_year=2001&drive=&engine=&fuel=&doors=&style_flag=1&cardist=904

The "fix" for crankwalk is to put in a 4g64 motor. Heh...

$25,000 close enough

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=214998815&dealer_id=59216553&car_year=2001&model=CORV&num_records=25&make2=&start_year=2001&keywordsfyc=__WjA2__&keywordsrep=090048054&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&search_type=both&distance=0&make=CHEV&color=&min_price=0&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=32966&advanced=y&end_year=2001&doors=&transmission=&max_price=25000&cardist=946


http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=215166980&dealer_id=59233623&car_year=2001&search_type=both&num_records=25&keywordsfyc=__WjA2__&make=CHEV&transmission=&model=CORV&distance=0&make2=&address=32966&default_sort=priceDESC&advanced=y&certified=&max_mileage=&max_price=25000&sort_type=priceDESC&min_price=0&body_code=0&end_year=2001&keywordsrep=090048054&color=&start_year=2001&drive=&engine=&fuel=&doors=&style_flag=1&cardist=904



There are a lot of bargin deals like that for Z06 private sales.

I guess guys trying not to take the trade-in #ss screw.

when you talked to the guy, you should have thrown an empty water bottle at his girl.

that would have been classic.. cause when it hit her in the head it would make that funny sound and then you could call her an idiot.

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LOL nice kill!