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nick_4.8sierra
01-31-2007, 07:42 PM
Has anyone used VHT Trackbite on the streets? If so, how does it work? I heard some people light it on fire, is this effective?


SiL3NtXWS6
01-31-2007, 08:05 PM
i have seen a lot of people use giant torches to heat and melt the big rubber patches the street. Never seen people light VHT on fire though.. I think it works well (only tried it once). It was sprayed directly on my tires, i did a little burnout and rolled out. Worked well, i hooked better than i ever have on 17in DRs.

nick_4.8sierra
01-31-2007, 08:15 PM
With your expirence using it, would you say it would work on an unprepped street? Also, would you recommend spraying it on my tires or on the street or both?


ninetres
01-31-2007, 08:33 PM
If used properly, it is 100% effective on the street.....any street. The boys out my way don't leave home without it ;)

nick_4.8sierra
01-31-2007, 08:41 PM
If used properly, it is 100% effective on the street.....any street. The boys out my way don't leave home without it ;)

Cool, so can someone give me some directions on using it on the street, with street tires? Do I spray it on the actual tires, or on the street about 20-30ft out, or both? Do I light it on fire or add anything to it? Should I do something to the street before I put the VHT down?

ninetres
01-31-2007, 08:56 PM
It is still hard to get a car with a lot of power to get a car to hook on street tires but:

If you use a torch, just heat the fuck out of the ground for as far as you have time/patience to prepare.

Then pour a small puddle of VHT for each tire to spin in. Do your burn out in it, and then spin out of it. Do this a couple few times. Then launch about a foot in front of the puddle. The ground should be warm and sticky. You can also use a pesticide spray bottle and put a light mist down for the first 40ft or so if you choose. Just be prepared to ruin the sprayer after each use! Sometimes if you do this, another friend of yours might still be torching the lane after soem wht has been sprayed....and it may catch fire a bit. No biggie, it will go out or else you go BACK TO THE FUTURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've never seen any of the older/faster guys spray it on their tires.

nick_4.8sierra
01-31-2007, 09:35 PM
Another thing, when the VHT is used without torching the road is it effective? Also, where can I pick up one of those torches that I can keep in my car? How long do they last?

Thanks!!

foggedz
01-31-2007, 10:14 PM
You dont have to torch the road for it to work. Plus it draws attention. You will have slightly better traction with a 90% chance the cops will get called.

If I was on a true street tire, not a drag radial, I would put down the VHT with a spray gun nice and thick for about 50 feet. Dont puddle it just a good thick coat. I true street tire normally gets oily if they get hot. If you do a burn out make it short and sweet, just enough to get the rocks off the tires. I would def do some practice attemps before hand to see what works the best.

If your on a drag radial, I would do a nice burn out in a puddle of the VHT, and put down a coat of VFT in the launch area. Just make sure its sticky before you lauch the car. It takes 20sec or so to get sticky depending on how thick its put down.

It was all the rage to prep the road for a race a few years ago in the area I live, but it has died out the last few years. Takes too long, and raises the risk of getting caught. For the most part both sides are looking to get in and out quickly, so its agreed before hand for neather side to do any prep.

lm7
02-01-2007, 01:54 AM
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=623017 VHT is part of every streetracers survival kit.

Matt D
02-01-2007, 03:45 PM
Never leave home without it :D

FormulaFire
02-01-2007, 11:16 PM
I put it before spare tire and jumper cables

ninetres
02-01-2007, 11:17 PM
I put it before spare tire and jumper cables
lol +1

9sec93
02-02-2007, 01:19 AM
you go prep the road 15 minutes before you take the cars there to make a pass so your not sitting there in the racecar/streetcar attracting attention. by the time you get there and its time to make a pass, it will be sticky. during test passes on a very secluded road in my neighborhood, which is also a very popular spot for street racing, i managed to dead hook using transbrake on a 300 shot. my car at the time was cutting low 1.3 60's. so yeah......it works!

V6 Bird
02-02-2007, 07:56 AM
Cool, so can someone give me some directions on using it on the street, with street tires? Do I spray it on the actual tires, or on the street about 20-30ft out, or both? Do I light it on fire or add anything to it? Should I do something to the street before I put the VHT down?

For the stuff you put on the street for a launch pad its cut down with MEK. You can get it at HD. If you get the mixture right its GLUE.

Do your burnout in a small patch of pure VHT and roll out into the prepped street. I have a 2 gallon sprayer with teflon seals with the mixed up VHT.

Pure VHT will not dry quickly when needed. It stays in goo form for quite some time.

I light the mixed stuff up to help it dry faster. Torching works great for this. :)

nick_4.8sierra
02-02-2007, 11:59 AM
For the stuff you put on the street for a launch pad its cut down with MEK. You can get it at HD. If you get the mixture right its GLUE.


Wait... What?

V6 Bird
02-02-2007, 12:30 PM
Wait... What?
Exactly what is says....cut it down if you want to prep the launching pad you will be using. Spray you some out and light it. Then proceed to continue spraying it where you will be using it. It dries faster this way and will have some heat for the tackyness.

Then do a burnout in the pure VHT you have in a little squirt bottle. :) I dont know what you didnt understand. using it pure will lose you the race.

trigger1
02-02-2007, 01:03 PM
MEK is Methyl Ethyl Ketone if thats what you were wondering.

lm7
02-02-2007, 01:46 PM
we dilute ours with alcohol to keep the sprayer tips clean, where can i get MEK?

nick_4.8sierra
02-02-2007, 02:00 PM
MEK is Methyl Ethyl Ketone if thats what you were wondering.

^^ Thanks, I didn't understand what MEK stood for.


Are you using 50/50 mixture of VHT and MEK? I was told that you can use straight VHT or (VHT and alcohol mix so you don't clog the sprayer) and let it sit for a minute and then u'll hook good, is that wrong? Also, we can't light the streets up here, the risk of getting caught is too high. Is it effective without fire? Will the mixture of MEK & VHT clog the sprayers?

What is the benefit of using MEK instead of alcohol for the mixture?

Thanks for all the info guys, I'm learning a lot!!

9sec93
02-02-2007, 02:03 PM
i work at a chemical company (paint plant) and we probably use around 1,000 gallons of MEK every day.

V6 Bird
02-02-2007, 02:07 PM
^^ Thanks, I didn't understand what MEK stood for.


Are you using 50/50 mixture of VHT and MEK? I was told that you can use straight VHT or (VHT and alcohol mix so you don't clog the sprayer) and let it sit for a minute and then u'll hook good, is that wrong? Also, we can't light the streets up here, the risk of getting caught is too high. Is it effective without fire? Will the mixture of MEK & VHT clog the sprayers?

What is the benefit of using MEK instead of alcohol for the mixture?

Thanks for all the info guys, I'm learning a lot!!Alcohol didnt evaporate as fast for us. ANd we light this shit everytime we use it, and do it for a reason. It keeps us warm, it dries faster. and its ready immediately.

MEK does kill rubber seals in the sprayers. Thats why we use teflon.

I dont use 50/50 unless its real cold out...

Matt D
02-02-2007, 02:08 PM
we dilute ours with alcohol to keep the sprayer tips clean, where can i get MEK?

Alcohol breaks down the VHT though. Yeah it might make it easier to spray but it won't be nearly as sticky. You want to use VP activator to thin it out.

ninetres
02-02-2007, 02:23 PM
using it pure will lose you the race.I hope you aren't saying VHT by itself will lose you the race.

lm7
02-02-2007, 04:47 PM
Alcohol breaks down the VHT though. Yeah it might make it easier to spray but it won't be nearly as sticky. You want to use VP activator to thin it out.
where can i buy some to try and whats the actual name of the product?

nick_4.8sierra
02-02-2007, 05:21 PM
Yea this is all new to me...

There should be a full write-up on this subject, because this is one of the most crucial part of street racing... No matter how much power you have, it's useless if you can't hook up.

Matt D
02-02-2007, 06:04 PM
where can i buy some to try and whats the actual name of the product?

It is called VP Activator. You can't buy it online due to Haz Mat restrictions, but you can find it through one of VP Racing's dealers. Here is a link to it:

http://www.vpracingfuels.com/vp_04_traction.html

lm7
02-02-2007, 07:01 PM
It is called VP Activator. You can't buy it online due to Haz Mat restrictions, but you can find it through one of VP Racing's dealers. Here is a link to it:

http://www.vpracingfuels.com/vp_04_traction.html
:hail: that link im calling my dealer tonight!

slick1851
02-02-2007, 08:14 PM
Poor it into a weed sprayer, the one with a mannul pump and prep the road


As your prepping it, light it on fire and spray it evenly heating it up nice. It will get super sticky when it is on fire, but this has to be done on a Very controled road, WITH NO TRAFFIC AT ALL!

Thats how you really prep a street

slick1851
02-02-2007, 08:16 PM
Also do a burnout in the vht....pour in under each tire a bit, and do a burnout on top of it and then keep the tires spinning coming out of the burnout...

slick1851
02-02-2007, 08:16 PM
It is still hard to get a car with a lot of power to get a car to hook on street tires but:

If you use a torch, just heat the fuck out of the ground for as far as you have time/patience to prepare.

Then pour a small puddle of VHT for each tire to spin in. Do your burn out in it, and then spin out of it. Do this a couple few times. Then launch about a foot in front of the puddle. The ground should be warm and sticky. You can also use a pesticide spray bottle and put a light mist down for the first 40ft or so if you choose. Just be prepared to ruin the sprayer after each use! Sometimes if you do this, another friend of yours might still be torching the lane after soem wht has been sprayed....and it may catch fire a bit. No biggie, it will go out or else you go BACK TO THE FUTURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've never seen any of the older/faster guys spray it on their tires.



Yup :drive:

Matt D
02-03-2007, 06:03 PM
:hail: that link im calling my dealer tonight!

Us Chitown guys know how to prep our roads. They hook better than the track :lol:

V6 Bird
02-03-2007, 08:25 PM
I hope you aren't saying VHT by itself will lose you the race.Yes I am. If its not hot enough outside to help it dry it damn sure will still be gooey and not sticky.

V6 Bird
02-03-2007, 08:27 PM
It is called VP Activator. You can't buy it online due to Haz Mat restrictions, but you can find it through one of VP Racing's dealers. Here is a link to it:

http://www.vpracingfuels.com/vp_04_traction.html

MEK is the closest thing as their activator btw and you can buy it at Home Depot or Lowes. Thats why I use it. ;)

I worked at drag strip and we used VP Lane Choice 5 and 6. 6 is the shit for humid or moist environments and to the feel it isnt tacky unless your rubber is hot.

We got tired of spending big bucks on the activator and analyzed what was in it. Thats why we started buying MEK to "activate" or cut it down with. :)

ninetres
02-03-2007, 11:37 PM
Yes I am. If its not hot enough outside to help it dry it damn sure will still be gooey and not sticky.
We have been using pure VHT out here this winter and it has been cold as hell. It does take some good prep though. A few good burnouts will do it. You can nearly lose a shoe if you walk over the tread after the race.

We also bring out the torch occasionally for the big $ races.

V6 Bird
02-04-2007, 01:19 AM
We have been using pure VHT out here this winter and it has been cold as hell. It does take some good prep though. A few good burnouts will do it. You can nearly lose a shoe if you walk over the tread after the race.

We also bring out the torch occasionally for the big $ races.Try cutting it down with MEK and watch your 3-4 burnouts stop and come down to one good one.

Hell cut it with just 30% MEK and youll see a huge difference. Just dont use the cut stuff to do a burnout in. Use the pure stuff to do that and far enough away from the starting line. Try it and report back. i already know what it will do :) Youd be surprised at how much rubber you can keep on your tires too :)

nick_4.8sierra
02-04-2007, 01:49 PM
Try cutting it down with MEK and watch your 3-4 burnouts stop and come down to one good one.

Hell cut it with just 30% MEK and youll see a huge difference. Just dont use the cut stuff to do a burnout in. Use the pure stuff to do that and far enough away from the starting line. Try it and report back. i already know what it will do :) Youd be surprised at how much rubber you can keep on your tires too :)

Ok I'll get the MEK from HP, but where is the cheapest place to get VHT? PM me if you'd like.

V6 Bird
02-04-2007, 05:07 PM
Ok I'll get the MEK from HP, but where is the cheapest place to get VHT? PM me if you'd like.We buy it from our local speed shops./

Happy Camper
02-04-2007, 07:50 PM
It was cold out mid 30's and I used it on the street and hooked REAL good.

nick_4.8sierra
02-04-2007, 10:36 PM
We buy it from our local speed shops./

We don't have any local speed shops besides NAPA, lol, so where else?

SScam68
02-04-2007, 11:42 PM
We don't have any local speed shops besides NAPA, lol, so where else?
summit or jegs, that's where I got mine

V6 Bird
02-05-2007, 07:26 AM
summit or jegs, that's where I got mineDidnt know there wasnt any speed shops..LOL

Yes Summit or Jegs sells it too.

NOTFAST
02-05-2007, 10:07 AM
I havent had luck with the straight trackbite....gotta try that MEK i guess

nick_4.8sierra
02-05-2007, 12:49 PM
Can someone provide a link to Trackbite on Summit please, I can't find it.

2000slpss
02-05-2007, 01:09 PM
heres the link to jegs couldn't find it on summit either http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product2_10001_10002_749307_-1

1990LSx
07-06-2011, 02:17 PM
It is called VP Activator. You can't buy it online due to Haz Mat restrictions, but you can find it through one of VP Racing's dealers. Here is a link to it:

http://www.vpracingfuels.com/vp_04_traction.html

I know that this is an old thread but how well does that stuff work on the streets?

Zmg00camaross
07-06-2011, 11:49 PM
I know that this is an old thread but how well does that stuff work on the streets?

Research PIMP JUICE on the web. If you can get it. Guy makes it in Oklahoma. Best stuff to use on the street. I have 2 gallons of it at the momment.

glhs422
10-10-2011, 01:07 PM
I know everyone uses this stuff on the street, but how about using it at the local track?

Is this something you could spray on your tires when you're at the front of the staging lanes, then do the regular burnout to really heat it up and get it sticky? The local tracks are not always well prepped for the 'street legal days' and the officials seem to be pretty strict about people walking into the burnout area... I doubt they'd let a friend pour some random liquid on the ground right in front of the burnout box...

bigantws6
10-10-2011, 09:40 PM
Ive done this a few times just that I takes a while for the fire to burn down just put it on the street and pull up to the tires are on both tires and spin them and then line right back on the burn out line u left I do it only when I juice at the street races have someone help u out

The Guy in MY 99TA
10-11-2011, 01:30 AM
We use a vht/alcohol mix in a sprayer, we lay down vht through the 60ft and light it, it works best to have 2 sprayers, and a big stream to get it out of the sprayer quickly when going that far, if not the methanol will dry up. We've hooked some cars in the low 1.5s to high 1.4 60s Nothing real fast but traction normally isnt an issue.

I think I'm about to build a sprayer to go in the bed of my duallie. I'm gunna take a 5 gallon tank to use as a chemical tank, and piggyback anothr 5 gallon tank for a pressure feeder tank and build some spray bars to go under the back bumper of the truck, so when we get some races up I can just run out there with my truck and lay some vht down and light it up and leave real quick.

fenton06
10-11-2011, 05:02 AM
Pimp Juice - nuff said

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu7zAfEnuEM

87silverbullet
10-11-2011, 08:27 AM
I've used VHT mixed with "denatured alcohol" the denatured alcohol has no water in it compared to rubbing alcohol. We have hooked cars that usually run mid to low 1.3's at the track.


We don't light it because thats asking for the cops to come out. We mix it according to the temperature outside. If its in the summertime and hot outside we mix it 70% VHT and 30% alcohol, if its cold outside we mix it 50/50. We pour it in front of the tires and do a slow burnout in it to coat the tires and count to ten, by then the VHT has dried up and then you nail it to bring it out 10-15 feet then back up in your tracks but not all the way to where you poured the puddle. Now its just a matter of hanging on.

We have been doing it this way for years without having to light it so we can stay:secret2:in the dark

BMR Tech2
10-11-2011, 10:08 AM
Haha, this just reminded me when we put VHT squirters on the rear tires of my friend's Vette while we drank beer. They worked REALLY well...once. then they were clogged. hahaha