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I keep seeing these vids of ls1 TA's running 13.6-13.8?? Now my Bone Stock 2001 SS ran a 13.2 and im running my 2002 Ws6 this weekend. The only diffrence that i know is that the TA is 100lbs heavier...well woopty f*@$in doo!! it should not make that much of a diffrence. Should i excpect a high 13 or just assume that the drivers in the vids just sux

SIC FUQR

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probably the driver, you should be on the lower half of the 13's. are you a4 or m6?

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M6 with mods in sig + 4.10's DR's and custom tune by a good friend in dallas on Tuner C.A.T.S

SIC FUQR

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yea, you will run low 13s...and if your good enough, you might hit high 12s...but just expect the low 13's

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Yah thats what i thought. Also someone was telling me that some of the late f-bods came with 2.73 gears so that might be one of the issues also.

~JOSHUA

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Bone stock my '02 Firehawk (M6) did 13.3 @107.xx MPH

Captainofiron

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02 Firehawk

nice numbers,

I dont know about you, but I have a kind of low opinion of people who video themselves racing, seems kinda ricerish. but I guess you could say Im a purist.

So dont worry about what others do or accomplish on the internet, its all what you can do in real life. because can you really trust what Cobrajoe or SRT4Frank say they run in the 1/4 or at a course(no offense to anybody with those names, haha)

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Yes i agree its just wierd that all the people who usually video tape their runs are the ones that run horrible times...lol

DrEvyl

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My '99 ran a best of 13.509 @ 102.5 bone stock, is usually ran 13.6's... and that's with a good launch. That's not at all uncommon for a 98-00 car. The other factor is how well the driver can launch the car.

A '98-'00 Trans Am would be heavier, and have about 40 less horsepower than a '01-'02 Camaro SS.

I'd say don't be bagging on them until you really know the differences between them... not all LS1s are equal.

DrEvyl

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Yes, some A4 Formulas and Trans Ams came with 2.73 gears from the factory... and stock they would run 13.7-13.8 times pretty much.

SIC FUQR

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i thought it didnt matter what year it was, the 01-02 put down 5 more hp not 40. because the ram air didnt become functional to add the other 35hp until it was raming air? i was reading they all put down the same hp on the dyno, including C5's

EchoMirage

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traction is the main key. expeirance of course, when comparing a stick launch to an automatic. but traction is the #1 factor when considering bone stock number. my very first time ever at the track was a 13.8@108. my second run ever was 13.6@108. better launch, and more traction that day. if i ever get to the track again, hopefully ill get faster, especially with better tires, maybe DRs.

BANDITCAR

My first and only time at the track (wanted to see what my car would do stock) I got a 13.6 at 106. That is an A4 with stock Goodyears. When I say my car was stock...it was stock! Down to the AC Delco filters!

I was happy with it as that is what the auto's were supposed to be at.

DrEvyl

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Stock '98-99 non-WS6/Firehawk = 305 hp

A stock '02 Camaro SS could have as much as 345 hp.

Difference = 40 hp.

Ram air had nothing to do with it, and adds zero on a dyno. The LS6 intake was part of the change between the early cars and the '01-'02 models. You also have to consider that a Camaro SS, a WS6, or a Firehawk get an upgraded exhaust that was worth 20 hp, plus combined with the gains from the LS6 intake and other changes over the model years.

13.6's for a stock '98-'00 car is not horrible driving... that's simply about how fast they were with an A4.

SIC FUQR

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o cool..i wasnt even thinking about the ls6 and the exhaust...thanks for the reminder!

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Im not bagging on anything i was just saying that there shouldnt be a diffrence Between my 02 WS6 and my 01 SS I love them both equally except for the fact that my SS is totaled...

vader99

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All fbodies have about the same power, give or take a few. Regardless of the different specs, I have seen performance from all the years all over the place. I have seen bone stock 98 m6 trans ams beat bone stock m6 02 camaro ss's and vice versa on both the track and dyno. I have also seen factory freak 98 - 02 fbodies and factory slug fbodies in all the years.

So, going by the factory ratings means nothing to me.

DrEvyl

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For every rule there are exceptions, and those exceptions don't disprove the rule.. I'm just using the factory ratings as a general reference point to demonstrate differences between years. On the average, an '02 car will be considerably faster than a '98. Sure there are freaks and dogs out there, but the majority of the cars will be pretty close to their same-year counterparts.

NDFORSPD

what ever happened to an LS1 is an LS1 is an LS1? I think youll see dyno numbers between 295 to 315 avg across the board on an stock f-bod. the only down side to a 98 is tunability otherwise its close overall.

00badbird

sure you should have no problem. I went 12.9 at 108 when it was stock except a drag radial and that was it and mine isn't a ram air model.

Good luck, let us know how you do