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Old 02-06-2007, 03:02 PM
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Default SCR and DCR on 408/L92 setup

could someone figure out the SCR and DCR for my new setup for me...

Lunati 408 with -13cc dish pistons
L92 heads milled .030
cosmetic .040 gaskets 4.060

244/248 612/615 112+2

12 BTDC 52 ABDC
58 BBDC 10 ATDC

.006 INT 293 EXT 297

.3600 INT .3620 EXT

110 ICL

all specs off my cam card thta im stuck using for now
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10.85
7.87

by my calcs.
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ouch!!! thats low

let me guess the -13cc is hurting the SCR?
and that cam isnt helping either?
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Originally Posted by Quik
ouch!!! thats low

let me guess the -13cc is hurting the SCR?
and that cam isnt helping either?

It ain't helping... I'm running the same piston in my C5's 408. My chambers are 62cc giving me around 11.3 SCR.
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Originally Posted by 2c5s
It ain't helping... I'm running the same piston in my C5's 408. My chambers are 62cc giving me around 11.3 SCR.
well i think a L92 is what 70cc? .030 is what around 67cc? and .040 is now around 64cc? so yea i can see 10.9


what causing such low DCR then?
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Originally Posted by Quik
well i think a L92 is what 70cc? .030 is what around 67cc? and .040 is now around 64cc? so yea i can see 10.9


what causing such low DCR then?

I was going by a 65cc chamber and .008 OTH. At 67cc, you're at 10.6/7.7
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Originally Posted by 2c5s
I was going by a 65cc chamber and .008 OTH. At 67cc, you're at 10.6/7.7
i think your right. whats the CC off for every .010 off?

what is causing the DCR so low

could advancing the cam anymore help at all?

seems like with this cam this will be a total dog down low
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Originally Posted by Quik
i think your right. whats the CC off for every .010 off?

what is causing the DCR so low

could advancing the cam anymore help at all?

seems like with this cam this will be a total dog down low
Your DCR is low because you already have a low SCR to start with. Putting in a bigger cam makes it worse. Is this engine built and running? Yes it will bring it up.
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Why this cam? Just asking. Why not sell it to someone building a regular 408 and get a l92 spec cam?
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Originally Posted by 2c5s
Your DCR is low because you already have a low SCR to start with. Putting in a bigger cam makes it worse. Is this engine built and running? Yes it will bring it up.
not running yet..still need to assemble my other head and toss it on...waiting on valve seals

my first goal was 11.5 scr but since the -13cc they say i cant acheive that. i even went with the .040 gasket to help out

cam is in but i can pull it out and advance it some if needed to...what do you think +2*...what would that do for the power band and the RPM range along with the DCR
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Originally Posted by Stang's Bane
Why this cam? Just asking. Why not sell it to someone building a regular 408 and get a l92 spec cam?
i tried selling it...its brand new and no body was interested in it

if i could sell it, it would be gone tomorrow
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now im curious to my old motor with the Trex in it

its a 03 LQ9 with 243 heads stock MLS gasket
Trex cam

what is the DCR on that...i believe the SCR is 11.1
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Maybe change cam or advance it more, but I guess you will start messing with your overlap timing and evc etc. You should probably talk to someone who knows what they are talking about camwise
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while with those low numbers...i doubt ill make hte power im looking to get. i need as much lowend as possible...this needs to me a more effeicent setup

any ideas????? cam is expandable, heads im comitted to, i cant take more off and head gaskets are comiitted to...so only leaves the cam

since motor is comitted to also
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/630637-my-dcr-calculator-if-you-have-comp-grind-doesn-t-get-any-easier-than.html
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thanks buti dont have acceel
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Originally Posted by Quik
thanks buti dont have acceel
Sign up with "Google Docs & Spreadsheets" and they have Excel-like spreadsheets you can use and save online. I used it at work for the DCR . Here's a link to sign up -> https://www.google.com/accounts/Serv...tm_medium=more

The -13cc dished pistons really put a hurt on SCR and DCR.
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Originally Posted by Bink
Sign up with "Google Docs & Spreadsheets" and they have Excel-like spreadsheets you can use and save online. I used it at work for the DCR . Here's a link to sign up -> https://www.google.com/accounts/Serv...tm_medium=more

The -13cc dished pistons really put a hurt on SCR and DCR.
which that sucks cause there was only 2 options the -13cc which lunati claims with a 67cc head it will be at 10.6 scr and the other option was -38cc for boost





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with what they said.....i figured a L92 head has a 69.8cc and milling them .030 and then using a .040 gasket is .050 off a 69.8cc head...shouldnt that be around a 63cc then?

i spun this motor over by hand with just one head on and on the compression stroke it gets somewhat resistant compared to others motors i spun over... i spun over a 11.1 6.0 and it wasnt as resistant as this 408 is.....which makes me think i should be higher then 10.8

especially since a 67cc head which they claim is 10.6
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Originally Posted by Quik
which that sucks cause there was only 2 options the -13cc which lunati claims with a 67cc head it will be at 10.6 scr and the other option was -38cc for boost




It is 10.6 with a .04 gasket.


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