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mo0cow
02-11-2007, 11:11 PM
Today my friend and I were dining at the drive in of a KFC, when i spotted a giant rice patty (aka r33 skyline) with a rediculously large exhaust system. I noticed that on the back of the car it said Nissan skyine gtr, it was a pretty nice looking car like, pear white. As he was driving out of the drivethru I heard that loudass turbo spoolin and I noticed that the driver was on the right side of the car, so i assumed it was an authentic JDM skyline. As i followed him out of the KFC he started to do the famous ricer zig zag driving, in and out of cars. At the light i caught up to him and the driver looked over at me and downshifted, man those turbo's were loud. I happened to have just been testing out my nitrous, so my bottle was open and i pushed the button on my arming switch. On 3 honks i let him get the jump on me stomped on the gas and and quickly passed him when i shut down at around 110, I was about 6 cars ahead. The skyline driver gave me a thumbs up when I slowed down and we parted our ways. I was happy at the chance to see let alone race a nissan skyline.
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Finite1
02-11-2007, 11:12 PM
I saw one of the new ones pull out of school a couple months back. I was like "wtf", I couldn't get him to bite though.... nice looking car. they look basically like g35's IMO.

everyone on here said it would have HAD to been imported.

good kill.

kidcamaro98
02-11-2007, 11:25 PM
damn nice kill...6 cars! shit thats alot more then i would have expected to beat him by. I still havent seen one driving on the road to this day tho.


OKcruising
02-11-2007, 11:30 PM
Rare kill indeed, not many domestics get a chance to roll with one!
I've only seen two, and know one of those two.
When done up, they are rolling killing machines.

Vanilla_Gorilla
02-11-2007, 11:46 PM
Wow..nice kill man! I have never seen one driving only at car shows and what not. Here in Chicago I think there are 2, but I might be wrong ?!? BananaHead can maybe shine some light on this..I think his friend wanted to race a r34 gts (rwd turbo) with his full bolt on t/a and the skyline kept backing down!!

I don't think they can technically be titled here because of some technicality. I read at some other forum board.. saying something about how this one skyline owner (i believe he owns some import shop on the northside) had to trail his car everywhere and he couldn't get it titled. I believe he has a nissan sylvia s15 (240 here) that has the same problem..but I can be wrong.

BananaHead
02-12-2007, 12:25 AM
Wow..nice kill man! I have never seen one driving only at car shows and what not. Here in Chicago I think there are 2, but I might be wrong ?!? BananaHead can maybe shine some light on this..I think his friend wanted to race a r34 gts (rwd turbo) with his full bolt on t/a and the skyline kept backing down!!



Yeah. There is a local kid with a yellow R34 that was imported. This kid talks THE MOST SHIT of anyone I have ever heard of in my life. He told someone I know (direct quote) "I pretty much have the fastest car in the state". TOTAL ricer. And of course, all the ricers worship him. Well, apparently, the car isn't all that great. My other friend has seen it up close, and it's kind of shitty. A buddy of mine has a headers/catback/cutout A4 WS6, and the R34 wouldn't race him. Not even from a roll. He claims that "his car is setup for highway racing" but still won't go from a roll. My friend wanted to go from a dig, but R34 kid DEFINATELY didn't want any of that. So, he can talk the shit, but can't handle a call-out. He is a true "Fast and the Furious" level ricer... :barf:

z_speedfreak
02-12-2007, 06:46 AM
nice kill.
so how'd he navigate the drive up window?

necrocannibal
02-12-2007, 07:45 AM
damn nice kill...6 cars! shit thats alot more then i would have expected to beat him by. I still havent seen one driving on the road to this day tho.


Why? He was spraying and Skylines in stock form are barely 13 second cars and thats mostly due to AWD. They arent as fast as all of the fanbois make them out to be.

WRX-ERROR
02-12-2007, 08:19 AM
Why? He was spraying and Skylines in stock form are barely 13 second cars and thats mostly due to AWD. They arent as fast as all of the fanbois make them out to be.
Dude not all Skylines are AWD. :eyes:

But you are right the Skyline out of the box isn't all that. But like the Supra the potential of the car is amazing. Sadly most USA Skylines are modded because the owners like keeping them stock for the value. Since you can no longer import them, they are somewhat of a very rare car for the USA. It's like dropping a 427 in an original Boss 302. Sure it will make it faster but you will loose a lot of value. Plus most Ford fans will just kick the snot out of you. :devil:

dsmdoctor
02-12-2007, 08:21 AM
i dont think you needed to give him a jump at the beginning. hes got that awd and if he knows how to use would have raped you out the hole. but you wuold have reeled him in like you did anyways. sounds like he was prety stock though if you put 6 cars on him by 110. good kill though. a skyline, thats and awesome kill.

lilbuddy1587
02-12-2007, 08:53 AM
i dont think you needed to give him a jump at the beginning. hes got that awd and if he knows how to use would have raped you out the hole. but you wuold have reeled him in like you did anyways. sounds like he was prety stock though if you put 6 cars on him by 110. good kill though. a skyline, thats and awesome kill.

AWD doesn't always = RAPE out of the hole. I've seen plenty(along with myself) cars with DR's and a decent driver stay door and door with an AWD car and then continue to put the corn fields on the AWD car.

WRX-ERROR
02-12-2007, 09:05 AM
AWD doesn't always = RAPE out of the hole. I've seen plenty(along with myself) cars with DR's and a decent driver stay door and door with an AWD car and then continue to put the corn fields on the AWD car.
On the street or track? I have yet to see a rwd car with DR's launch as well as an AWD car driven well on the streets. Now on a well prepped track thats a different story.

NightWindDriftr
02-12-2007, 09:18 AM
On the street or track? I have yet to see a rwd car with DR's launch as well as an AWD car driven well on the streets. Now on a well prepped track thats a different story.

Agree. Unless an AWD manages to spin all four, it will almost ALWAYS outlaunch RWD.

Sparetire
02-12-2007, 09:35 AM
I saw one of the new ones pull out of school a couple months back. I was like "wtf", I couldn't get him to bite though.... nice looking car. they look basically like g35's IMO.

everyone on here said it would have HAD to been imported.

good kill.

The new Skylines are not out yet, but yeah they are very loosely based on G35s/350Zs. Should be out in '08.

If he had taken your bait you would have had the pleasure of racing a NA V6.

Sparetire
02-12-2007, 09:37 AM
Theres a lot to a hole shot and most of it is driver. Im not exactly John Force over here and I pull 1.9 60s in my DSM because I have not gotten the technique down and I have a slight clutch engagement issue. 1.9 is easly beatable with even a good street tire LS1.

B.W.
02-12-2007, 09:54 AM
Agree. Unless an AWD manages to spin all four, it will almost ALWAYS outlaunch RWD.
I don't think I've ever seen an AWD car launch better than 1.5 at the strip. There are plenty of RWD cars there that are annihilating them all night.

Finite1
02-12-2007, 10:00 AM
The new Skylines are not out yet, but yeah they are very loosely based on G35s/350Zs. Should be out in '08.

If he had taken your bait you would have had the pleasure of racing a NA V6.


yep I know!

it wasn't a GTR.. so it's not the 08 version.

it was exactly like a G35.. I've seen them closer at the Nissan engineering/testing facility out there DEEP in maricopa city. i worked there for a minute.

looked like this:

http://www.autodigest.org/wp-content/2005NissanSkyline.jpg

which is an 05'. so I'd guess it was definately imported.

necrocannibal
02-12-2007, 10:07 AM
Dude not all Skylines are AWD. :eyes:

But you are right the Skyline out of the box isn't all that. But like the Supra the potential of the car is amazing. Sadly most USA Skylines are modded because the owners like keeping them stock for the value. Since you can no longer import them, they are somewhat of a very rare car for the USA. It's like dropping a 427 in an original Boss 302. Sure it will make it faster but you will loose a lot of value. Plus most Ford fans will just kick the snot out of you. :devil:


Dude!!


I know that but he said it was a GTR which IS the AWD version of the car. :eyes:

hutch1999
02-12-2007, 10:28 AM
Skyline=ricer god, i hear all the time from my ricer buddies how the skyline is the greatest, fastest car ever, i get sick of it

CharlieCobra03
02-12-2007, 11:11 AM
We have three R33's and an R34 up by where I live. All are Motorex imports with right wheel drive. None are particularly fast. They do draw a crowd and hold up well at the Import shows. On the street? Nah, they just can't hang. Now if ya had a REAL R34 GTR, set up like the one most Ricers idolize, it'd be like a 1000 WHP Supra with AWD. Problem is, it'd break shit everytime it ran hard. I'll keep my American Muscle thank you very much.

BTW, nice kill. Most of 'em don't wanna run, just wanna show.

Vanilla_Gorilla
02-12-2007, 11:15 AM
I think with those cars there is an 'awe' or 'wow' factor to them since little is really known about them here in the U.S. and it's not a car you see everyday. They are impressive when built right but I don't know anyone that would have the money to mod it after paying to import it and license it. Plus modding those things are super super expensive.

1fastTransAm
02-12-2007, 11:22 AM
sweet kill bro... I have seen about 4 of them where I live

00slowredz
02-12-2007, 02:11 PM
i've never even seen one of them in person, i'd probably lose but i'd still like to run one

necrocannibal
02-12-2007, 02:45 PM
i've never even seen one of them in person, i'd probably lose but i'd still like to run one


You would not lose, unless it was modded. Stock for stock an LS1 is faster and you are kind of modded so you would win.

BTNH
02-12-2007, 03:18 PM
You would not lose, unless it was modded. Stock for stock an LS1 is faster and you are kind of modded so you would win.
LS1 cant lose.........ever

jds99camaross
02-12-2007, 03:29 PM
good kill.

necrocannibal
02-12-2007, 03:49 PM
LS1 cant lose.........ever


I wouldnt go that far but not to a stock Skyline.

jds99camaross
02-12-2007, 03:53 PM
Anyone with money can be quick/fast.

CharlieCobra03
02-12-2007, 06:46 PM
To a point that's correct. Every car has a point of diminishing returns though. Ya reach a point where more money just doesn't return a worthwhile increase in performance. For instance, a 700 WHP Civic Hatch is possible but utterly useless. No way in hell to hook that power at any speed so what good is it. The lighter the car, the quicker that point is reached, especially from a dig.

ScottysZ
02-12-2007, 07:01 PM
Ive never seen an R34 but there are a LOTof R32s running around up here.

Not sure how your import laws work, but once overseas cars are 15 years old you can bring them across to canada with no taxes or any of that other shit, so theres a ton of the early 90s fairlady Z's (300ZXs) up here too. Its getting pretty disgusting at the track, 16 or 17sec R32 GTS Skylines (havent seen a GTR there yet), high 15 second Zs, and too many sweet ass RHD civics to count.

slick1851
02-12-2007, 10:45 PM
Stock there nothing crazy, R34s on the other are pretty quick stock.......


R32 and R33 are just low 13sec cars stock....

lilbuddy1587
02-13-2007, 12:21 AM
On the street or track? I have yet to see a rwd car with DR's launch as well as an AWD car driven well on the streets. Now on a well prepped track thats a different story.

On the street. When I was cam only I could launch my car and stay door and door with many EVO's I raced up until it was time for me to start pulling :drive: Most people dont know how to launch their cars(RWD) You gotta slip the clutch a little (just like you do with AWD cars) as well as progressively lay into the throttle(quickly LOL)

WRX-ERROR
02-13-2007, 08:13 AM
I don't think I've ever seen an AWD car launch better than 1.5 at the strip. There are plenty of RWD cars there that are annihilating them all night.
I can show you a WRX that did a 1.3 60'

On the street. When I was cam only I could launch my car and stay door and door with many EVO's I raced up until it was time for me to start pulling :drive: Most people dont know how to launch their cars(RWD) You gotta slip the clutch a little (just like you do with AWD cars) as well as progressively lay into the throttle(quickly LOL)
Again thats not a driver who knows how to launch a car. I ran a 79 Mustang with a 351w, auto with 4:10 and DR's on the street and managed 1 1/2 cars on the launch. Clearly at the track that Mustang would have had a better chance, in fact he might even have out launched me. I believe he said he was cutting 1.7 at the track.

I've done a 1.6 60' in my WRX on the same tires that I run everyday, granted I never want to launch my car that hard again. I just wanted to see what it could do. Street or strip, most of the time I'll get the same launch (depending if I have to run through the water box or not).

Video of a R32 GTR. NOT STOCK. :drive:
http://freon.shackspace.com/vids/WRSMALL2.wmv

jds99camaross
02-13-2007, 09:50 AM
I can show you a WRX that did a 1.3 60'

I've done a 1.6 60' in my WRX on the same tires that I run everyday, granted I never want to launch my car that hard again. I just wanted to see what it could do. Street or strip, most of the time I'll get the same launch (depending if I have to run through the water box or not)

WIll your car break if you launch that hard??

SuperSS27
02-13-2007, 09:52 AM
The new Skylines are not out yet, but yeah they are very loosely based on G35s/350Zs. Should be out in '08.

If he had taken your bait you would have had the pleasure of racing a NA V6.
The new Skylines are out, I saw 1 about a month ago. I was right behind it at a stop light. I was trying to race him in my trailblazer, but he wouldn't go for it.

SuperSS27
02-13-2007, 09:54 AM
Yeah. There is a local kid with a yellow R34 that was imported. This kid talks THE MOST SHIT of anyone I have ever heard of in my life. He told someone I know (direct quote) "I pretty much have the fastest car in the state". TOTAL ricer. And of course, all the ricers worship him. Well, apparently, the car isn't all that great. My other friend has seen it up close, and it's kind of shitty. A buddy of mine has a headers/catback/cutout A4 WS6, and the R34 wouldn't race him. Not even from a roll. He claims that "his car is setup for highway racing" but still won't go from a roll. My friend wanted to go from a dig, but R34 kid DEFINATELY didn't want any of that. So, he can talk the shit, but can't handle a call-out. He is a true "Fast and the Furious" level ricer... :barf:
Yeah, I know who you are talking about. That guy is a douche bag, and apparently he cant drive it for shit.

jds99camaross
02-13-2007, 10:02 AM
The new Skylines are out, I saw 1 about a month ago. I was right behind it at a stop light. I was trying to race him in my trailblazer, but he wouldn't go for it.

I seen a guy at the US StreetNationals @Bradenton Motorsports Park, w/ a skyline that looked like a g35 Im guessing that was a new skyline. The guy was a moron thinking he could run with the heavy street class. The slowest of the heavystreet class ran like a 9.- . This guy ran a 12.8 with nitrous on a turbo v-6. It was a joke people were laughing at him.

Irunelevens
02-13-2007, 10:08 AM
The current Skyline IS a G35. The new G35 is out. Therefore, all you would need are "Skyline 350GT" badges, and you have a JDM-looking Skyline. But no, the new GT-R is not out yet.

95N20FORMULA
02-13-2007, 10:17 AM
Im not a fan of the skyline but i dont hate them, i just think theres just to much hype on them i know alot of kids around here that are rich and say there getting the skyline imported over heard with the Rb26dett engine that they say pushes 500whp stock, i just hate when people dont know what there talking about...

BananaHead
02-13-2007, 10:58 AM
Yeah, I know who you are talking about. That guy is a douche bag, and apparently he cant drive it for shit.

A few guys I know know him and I hear the same thing you just said. What a tool! :barf:

GMfan
02-13-2007, 01:09 PM
Why? He was spraying and Skylines in stock form are barely 13 second cars and thats mostly due to AWD. They arent as fast as all of the fanbois make them out to be.

Exactly. For some reason though ricers worship these cars like they are some kind of miracle, when in reality they are nothing special. Its a rather unattractive coupe with only 276HP - what is so great about that?? Nothing. Yet these morons spend thousands of dollars to try and import them to NA so they can pretend they are in F&F. Very pathetic.

slick1851
02-13-2007, 01:14 PM
Exactly. For some reason though ricers worship these cars like they are some kind of miracle, when in reality they are nothing special. Its a rather unattractive coupe with only 276HP - what is so great about that?? Nothing. Yet these morons spend thousands of dollars to try and import them to NA so they can pretend they are in F&F. Very pathetic.


They are under rated at 276hp, there quit a bit more....

Think of what GM did with the Fbody under rated it

GMfan
02-13-2007, 01:20 PM
They are under rated at 276hp, there quit a bit more....

Think of what GM did with the Fbody under rated it

I know, but they still aren't pushing anywhere near the stock power of an LS1.

Irunelevens
02-13-2007, 08:53 PM
Yeah, but intake/exhaust and upped boost will make over 400rwhp. And you never have to do any internal engine work. Just provide more air/fuel. There are stock-internals Skylines with 1,000hp :drive:

GMfan
02-13-2007, 09:05 PM
Yeah, but intake/exhaust and upped boost will make over 400rwhp. And you never have to do any internal engine work. Just provide more air/fuel. There are stock-internals Skylines with 1,000hp :drive:

Well no kidding there buddy, you can up the boost on any turbo car and make more power. Thats a given. Its not something thats unique or special about the skyline that justifies why all the ricer cream their pants over them.

Hell I bet 25PSI gets off just thinking about skylines. Then he can give his dog a break for a minute.

FoxNotch
02-13-2007, 09:39 PM
so how'd he navigate the drive up window?
good Q.

Irunelevens
02-13-2007, 09:54 PM
Well no kidding there buddy, you can up the boost on any turbo car and make more power. Thats a given. Its not something thats unique or special about the skyline that justifies why all the ricer cream their pants over them.

Hell I bet 25PSI gets off just thinking about skylines. Then he can give his dog a break for a minute.
Maybe you didn't see where I talked about not having to change internals to get to 800-900whp :eyes:

FoxNotch
02-13-2007, 10:45 PM
whats the big deal? Like it takes weeks and millions of dollars to change out internals.

GMfan
02-13-2007, 10:49 PM
Maybe you didn't see where I talked about not having to change internals to get to 800-900whp :eyes:

Yea, like its going to be a real reliable motor pushing 800-900WHP on stock internals. Only a matter of time before it grenades all over the road, who are you trying to fool?? So what if it can hold up for a while, its not a long term solution, its not going to last.

SS4Luck
02-14-2007, 01:38 AM
i got to race an R34 Vspec II Nur (for those of you that dont know skylines its basically the equivelent to a new Zo6 with 350 horse, my best friend owns a subaru dealership and loves them so he brags about them to me)anyways, at the track and i wasnt impressed at all. He wen 8.98 to my 8.52 (in the 8th) He was AWD and launch hard and still didnt come out hard, infact i think my 60' was even better... but there were at least 100 people crowded around that car in the staging lanes

Irunelevens
02-14-2007, 12:54 PM
Yea, like its going to be a real reliable motor pushing 800-900WHP on stock internals. Only a matter of time before it grenades all over the road, who are you trying to fool?? So what if it can hold up for a while, its not a long term solution, its not going to last.
I wish they would just ban your IP and be done with it :gtfo: . And no, it doesn't take millions of dollars and alot of time to change internals. But it does save several thousand dollars, and quite a bit of time.

Sparetire
02-14-2007, 01:13 PM
The new Skylines are out, I saw 1 about a month ago. I was right behind it at a stop light. I was trying to race him in my trailblazer, but he wouldn't go for it.


Thats a G35. I guess one could call it a Skyline, but its not. In Japan they call them Skylines, which is lame. The next GTR is running a 3.8L TT at about 450HP with AWD. If those are out now I am way way behind the curve.


Edit: What a lot of people are calling "Skylines" are G35s. They are heavy NA V6s and while the VQ is a neat motor, its nothing in a, what, 3500lb car intended for luxury. They dont come turboed stock. The GTR is the first "Skyline" to come to the US and its not here yet. Should be nice competition for the LS2 Camaro actually. Probably pricier by quite a bit though.

gsrhunter
02-14-2007, 03:44 PM
For those non believers. the 2j is a very stout motor and can definitely handle 800whp w/ stock internals. Real GTR's are just like any other car. They are dogs when stock... but oh when they are modded....... Yes I'm about to cream myself. I have never seen a car squat and go like that. From 80 mph it made a supra with 125whp more look like it was standing still at the punch. The supra had 950rwhp the GTR had 825awhp. Just once in my life I want to feel the acceleration of a 1000awhp GTR from 80mph. But if there was a way I could ride in John Force's car I'd definitely rather do that!!! LOL

slick1851
02-14-2007, 03:51 PM
Yea, like its going to be a real reliable motor pushing 800-900WHP on stock internals. Only a matter of time before it grenades all over the road, who are you trying to fool?? So what if it can hold up for a while, its not a long term solution, its not going to last.


Maybe becasue it will last longer than other motors? Thats why they are highly talked about, and even BUILT MOTORS BLOW UP.

But for a factory motor that can with stand alot of boost and for a good period of time, its soild...

04 cobra motors also make HUGE power...

mo0cow
02-14-2007, 07:16 PM
nice kill.
so how'd he navigate the drive up window?
He had his gf take the order, which made me angry at first because i thought she was driving the car, ha ha ha, i felt bad for walking that guy so bad I don't think he got any that night....

mo0cow
02-14-2007, 07:20 PM
Thats a G35. I guess one could call it a Skyline, but its not. In Japan they call them Skylines, which is lame. The next GTR is running a 3.8L TT at about 450HP with AWD. If those are out now I am way way behind the curve.


Edit: What a lot of people are calling "Skylines" are G35s. They are heavy NA V6s and while the VQ is a neat motor, its nothing in a, what, 3500lb car intended for luxury. They dont come turboed stock. The GTR is the first "Skyline" to come to the US and its not here yet. Should be nice competition for the LS2 Camaro actually. Probably pricier by quite a bit though.

Taken from the nissan website
The dream of every red-blooded automotive enthusiast is coming true. On April 12, Nissan Motor Co., Ltd. President and CEO Carlos Ghosn gave the wake up call; the Nissan GT-R is go. The production version will make its world debut at the 2007 Tokyo Motor Show. It will go on sale in Japan in Fall 2007. U.S. and Canada will follow in Spring 2008.

GMfan
02-14-2007, 07:42 PM
Taken from the nissan website
The dream of every red-blooded automotive enthusiast is coming true. On April 12, Nissan Motor Co., Ltd. President and CEO Carlos Ghosn gave the wake up call; the Nissan GT-R is go. The production version will make its world debut at the 2007 Tokyo Motor Show. It will go on sale in Japan in Fall 2007. U.S. and Canada will follow in Spring 2008.

Thats a very bold statement to assume that everyone like the Skyline. Personally I would never buy one of those riceburners, my money would be going towards a nice car, like an '08 Camaro, Corvette, or GT500. Something that doesn't sound like a weedwacker when you rev it, and is not coming from Japan.

GMfan
02-14-2007, 07:48 PM
Double.

Zer0 7
02-14-2007, 09:54 PM
Don't lie you're still saving for that TA chasis because thats all you can afford.

FoxNotch
02-14-2007, 10:41 PM
And no, it doesn't take millions of dollars and alot of time to change internals. But it does save several thousand dollars, and quite a bit of time.
really though, unless you're racing to finish the car, what difference does an extra week make? Sure, its awesome to have a bulletproof engine from the factory, but if I was buying a car to make upper hundred horses, I wouldn't base my purchase on what the stock internals could handle.

SS4Luck
02-14-2007, 11:16 PM
For those non believers. the 2j is a very stout motor
are you talking about a skyline motor? cuz skylines have RB series, supras have 2Js

01CamaroZ28
02-14-2007, 11:27 PM
Thats a G35. I guess one could call it a Skyline, but its not. In Japan they call them Skylines, which is lame. The next GTR is running a 3.8L TT at about 450HP with AWD. If those are out now I am way way behind the curve.


Edit: What a lot of people are calling "Skylines" are G35s. They are heavy NA V6s and while the VQ is a neat motor, its nothing in a, what, 3500lb car intended for luxury. They dont come turboed stock. The GTR is the first "Skyline" to come to the US and its not here yet. Should be nice competition for the LS2 Camaro actually. Probably pricier by quite a bit though.

You're talking about g35's as he said. All the skylines have AWD and g35's/350z's are rwd. R32, R33, R34 are all awd. g35/350z are N/A. While the r32,33,34 are all twin turbo i beleive. R34's being the most recent. Stopped making them in '02 if i remember correctly. They are pretty quick as they were underrated by nissan and the r34 is detuned. There is something with the vin that its not 13 chars. so it cant be registered or something. So they have to modify it by putting a bunch of zeros or something. Ill try to get the article. I was reading it on Edmunds.com.

slick1851
02-14-2007, 11:50 PM
Just to let some people know, the CURRENT SKYLINE in japan is OUR U.S. G35


G35 people in the U.S. like to put on the OEM skyline badges, NISSAN IS NOT YET SELLING SKY LINES THEMSELFS HERE< AND THE NEW SKYLINE ISNT HERE YET!

Only the older imported models in very limited numbers that people bring over are here.

SS4Luck
02-15-2007, 12:00 AM
G35 people in the U.S. like to put on the OEM skyline badges,
one of my friends did that :rice:

diambo4life
02-15-2007, 05:05 AM
Lets be clear that all Japanese cars are/were rated to a max of 276HP due to a Govt policy "gentleman's agreement" towards automakers that was recently eased. EVOs, Supras, RX7's, GTOs/3000GT VR4s' etc were all labelled "276HP" to make the Govt. happy. It (the GTR) was intentionally restricted/detuned to make less power stock ie. plugged wastegate lines etc.

Not all Skylines are AWD as already mentioned. ONLY the GTR models were, and yes, the Skyline is one of the greatest cars ever made since it was built with one purpose - to dominate on a racetrack, and that's exactly what it did in the 90's. After the latest R32 chassis came out it was taken to the "Ring" and proceeded to break the lap time record that was being held by a Porsche.

A GTR is pretty much a Supra (HP potential wise,) that rev's higher and is AWD, well, a special AWD system. What's not to like about that? Looks are subjective, so it makes no sense arguing about it. I think it has the best sounding straight 6 although I wish they made them a little more compact. It's a shame they never imported them here as it sure would have kept the Supra in check due to the more R&D by HP-hungry people in the U.S.A. Japanese guys are not really that interested in making peak power but rather, improving responsiveness of a vehicle on a racetrack.

Nice kill btw. :hijack:

slick1851
02-15-2007, 11:17 AM
Lets be clear that all Japanese cars are/were rated to a max of 276HP due to a Govt policy "gentleman's agreement" towards automakers that was recently eased. EVOs, Supras, RX7's, GTOs/3000GT VR4s' etc were all labelled "276HP" to make the Govt. happy. It (the GTR) was intentionally restricted/detuned to make less power stock ie. plugged wastegate lines etc.

Not all Skylines are AWD as already mentioned. ONLY the GTR models were, and yes, the Skyline is one of the greatest cars ever made since it was built with one purpose - to dominate on a racetrack, and that's exactly what it did in the 90's. After the latest R32 chassis came out it was taken to the "Ring" and proceeded to break the lap time record that was being held by a Porsche.

A GTR is pretty much a Supra (HP potential wise,) that rev's higher and is AWD, well, a special AWD system. What's not to like about that? Looks are subjective, so it makes no sense arguing about it. I think it has the best sounding straight 6 although I wish they made them a little more compact. It's a shame they never imported them here as it sure would have kept the Supra in check due to the more R&D by HP-hungry people in the U.S.A. Japanese guys are not really that interested in making peak power but rather, improving responsiveness of a vehicle on a racetrack.

Nice kill btw. :hijack:



Hit the nail on the head :judge:

necrocannibal
02-15-2007, 11:29 AM
Lets be clear that all Japanese cars are/were rated to a max of 276HP due to a Govt policy "gentleman's agreement" towards automakers that was recently eased. EVOs, Supras, RX7's, GTOs/3000GT VR4s' etc were all labelled "276HP" to make the Govt. happy. It (the GTR) was intentionally restricted/detuned to make less power stock ie. plugged wastegate lines etc.

Not all Skylines are AWD as already mentioned. ONLY the GTR models were, and yes, the Skyline is one of the greatest cars ever made since it was built with one purpose - to dominate on a racetrack, and that's exactly what it did in the 90's. After the latest R32 chassis came out it was taken to the "Ring" and proceeded to break the lap time record that was being held by a Porsche.

A GTR is pretty much a Supra (HP potential wise,) that rev's higher and is AWD, well, a special AWD system. What's not to like about that? Looks are subjective, so it makes no sense arguing about it. I think it has the best sounding straight 6 although I wish they made them a little more compact. It's a shame they never imported them here as it sure would have kept the Supra in check due to the more R&D by HP-hungry people in the U.S.A. Japanese guys are not really that interested in making peak power but rather, improving responsiveness of a vehicle on a racetrack.

Nice kill btw. :hijack:



And all of this still means that a STOCK Skyline wold lose to a STOCK f body in straightline acceleration, which is what the original poster was talking about. WGAF about the Ring and its dominance over Jap only cars in their little circuit when the post was about a drag race.

slick1851
02-15-2007, 11:35 AM
And all of this still means that a STOCK Skyline wold lose to a STOCK f body in straightline acceleration, which is what the original poster was talking about. WGAF about the Ring and its dominance over Jap only cars in their little circuit when the post was about a drag race.



GTRs and LS1s I would say are about a drivers race.....


R34s come with a big price tag, but it comes with much more than just a 1/4 mile time.

diambo4life
02-15-2007, 12:53 PM
And all of this still means that a STOCK Skyline wold lose to a STOCK f body in straightline acceleration, which is what the original poster was talking about. WGAF about the Ring and its dominance over Jap only cars in their little circuit when the post was about a drag race.

No. It depends on what model GTR. The R34 is high 12 sec car bone stock. Street tire to street tire, the GTR will actually win. I would put my money on it EVERY time. With an R33, it could be a drivers race granted since I have seen LS1 f-bodies run anywhere from 12.9 to 14 flat at my local track.


BTW, the Ring is NOT in Japan and not only "Jap" cars race on it. :search: The C6 ZO6 has gone there to prove it's worthiness as well, and it performed GREAT! Just giving an unbiased OPINION. WGAF what YOU think about it?

necrocannibal
02-15-2007, 01:12 PM
No. It depends on what model GTR. The R34 is high 12 sec car bone stock. Street tire to street tire, the GTR will actually win. I would put my money on it EVERY time. With an R33, it could be a drivers race granted since I have seen LS1 f-bodies run anywhere from 12.9 to 14 flat at my local track.


BTW, the Ring is NOT in Japan and not only "Jap" cars race on it. :search: The C6 ZO6 has gone there to prove it's worthiness as well, and it performed GREAT! Just giving an unbiased OPINION. WGAF what YOU think about it?



You are an idiot if you think Skylines are 12 second cars stock.

I know the Ring is in Germany and I stated AFTER that that Skylines were winning races in their own little circuit in Japan against only Japanese cars and once again noone here gives a fuck.


And you dont give a fuck about what I think then why are you here defending a car that NOONE HERE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT?

CharlieCobra03
02-15-2007, 01:12 PM
:jest: pwned :jest:

GMfan
02-15-2007, 01:17 PM
You are an idiot if you think Skylines are 12 second cars stock.

I know the Ring is in Germany and I stated AFTER that that Skylines were winning races in their own little circuit in Japan against only Japanese cars and once again noone here gives a fuck.


And you dont give a fuck about what I think then why are you here defending a car that NOONE HERE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT?

Couldn't have said it better myself.

"One of the greatest cars in the world"?? Haha yea okay, look at the car in his sig, he obviously has shitty taste in cars to begin with, who's going to value his opinion?? What a joke.

necrocannibal
02-15-2007, 01:21 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself.

"One of the greatest cars in the world"?? Haha yea okay, look at the car in his sig, he obviously has shitty taste in cars to begin with, who's going to value his opinion?? What a joke.


How come everytime a Japenese car loses to an American car in a Drag Race, especially the Almighty, Unbeatable, World Domintating Skyline, someone has to come on here and talk about the Japanese cars ability to go a around a track that noone here will ever lay eyes on.

GMfan
02-15-2007, 01:26 PM
How come everytime a Japenese car loses to an American car in a Drag Race, especially the Almighty, Unbeatable, World Domintating Skyline, someone has to come on here and talk about the Japanese cars ability to go a around a track that noone here will ever lay eyes on.

Because they are pathetic and have no other defense??

Just a guess lol.

jds99camaross
02-15-2007, 01:53 PM
No. It depends on what model GTR. The R34 is high 12 sec car bone stock. Street tire to street tire, the GTR will actually win. I would put my money on it EVERY time. With an R33, it could be a drivers race granted since I have seen LS1 f-bodies run anywhere from 12.9 to 14 flat at my local track.


BTW, the Ring is NOT in Japan and not only "Jap" cars race on it. :search: The C6 ZO6 has gone there to prove it's worthiness as well, and it performed GREAT! Just giving an unbiased OPINION. WGAF what YOU think about it?



What planet do you live on???:loco: Go get a GTR and well race. lol

necrocannibal
02-15-2007, 02:18 PM
From a magazine test on the car. Would you like to tell me what the 1/4 time and mph was? And if Im not mistaken it pulled the EXACT same lateral Gs an f body does.


The R34 GT-R was introduced in January 1999 and bettered its predecessor’s performance in almost every department. Basically, the new car is built upon the improved technology of its predecessors. Since Nissan’s market research had found out that most people preferred the smaller R32’s nimbleness to the larger R33’s handling, the R34’s length was reduced by 7.5cm to decrease its dimensions and bring its handling... read more







Proceed to the Road Test of the R34 GT-R









facts & figures





Model R34 GT-R V-Spec


General Information



Layout Front-engine / AWD see left
Drag Coefficient [cd] NA
Curb Weight [lb (kg)] 3395 (1540) 2440 (1560)
Trunk Space [cu ft. (L)] NA

Overall Length [in. (mm)] 181.1 (4600)
Overall Width [in. (mm)] 70.3 (1785)
Overall Height [in. (mm)] 53.5 (1360)
Wheelbase [in. (mm)] 104.9 (2665)
Track Front [in. (mm)] 58.3 (1480)
Track Rear [in. (mm)] 58.7 (1490)

Steering Rack & Pinion; Speed Sensitive Power Ass.
Turning Radius [ft. (m)] 18 (5.6)
Tires front 245/40 ZR18
Tires rear 245/40 ZR18


Engine



Type RB26DETT - Inline-6; Twin-Turbo Charged
Valvetrain dohc 4-valve/cyl
Displacement [cc] 2568
Bore & Stroke [mm] 86.0 x 73.7
Compression Ratio 8.5:1
Redline [rpm] 8000

Max. Power [Bhp at rpm] 280 at 6800 (official) 327 at 6800 (real)
Max. Torque [lb-ft (Nm) at rpm] 293 (400) at 4400
Bhp/Liter 109 127.3


Gear Ratios



1st 3.827
2nd 2.360
3rd 1.685
4th 1.312
5th 1.000
6th 0.793
Final drive 3.545


Suspension



Front MacPherson struts with an additional link, Lower A-Arms, Coil Springs
Rear Mulitlink Setup with Coil Springs, Tube Shocks, Anti-Roll Bar


Braking



Front - Brakes 300mm ventilated discs with 4-piston calipers
Rear - Brakes 280mm discs with 2-piston calipers
70 - 0 mph [ft (m)] 148 (46)
60 - 0 mph [ft (m)] 120 (36.6)


Performance*



0 - 60 mph [secs] 4.9
0 - 100 mph [secs] 12.3
1/4 mile [secs at mph] 13.7 at 103.5

Top Speed [mph] 155
Lateral acceleration [g] 0.88

dailydriver
02-15-2007, 02:31 PM
No. It depends on what model GTR. The R34 is high 12 sec car bone stock. Street tire to street tire, the GTR will actually win.

I've seen "bone stock/stock tired" LS1 f bodies go 12.7 in perfect conditions, being driven as if they were trying to break it. So I guess ALL of our cars are also "high 12 sec cars bone stock", huh??

BTW; I knew he was talking about the Nippon's "All Japan GT Championship" series (or whatever the hell they call it now). I just wish GM would back some C6Rs to go over there and invade/dominate their series, the way they came here to try and take over NASCAR. :usa:

jds99camaross
02-15-2007, 03:04 PM
I've seen "bone stock/stock tired" LS1 f bodies go 12.7 in perfect conditions, being driven as if they were trying to break it. So I guess ALL of our cars are also "high 12 sec cars bone stock", huh??

BTW; I knew he was talking about the Nippon's "All Japan GT Championship" series (or whatever the hell they call it now). I just wish GM would back some C6Rs to go over there and invade/dominate their series, the way they came here to try and take over NASCAR. :usa:

+1 :drive:

diambo4life
02-16-2007, 01:50 PM
I've seen "bone stock/stock tired" LS1 f bodies go 12.7 in perfect conditions, being driven as if they were trying to break it. So I guess ALL of our cars are also "high 12 sec cars bone stock", huh??

BTW; I knew he was talking about the Nippon's "All Japan GT Championship" series (or whatever the hell they call it now). I just wish GM would back some C6Rs to go over there and invade/dominate their series, the way they came here to try and take over NASCAR. :usa:

I don't refute that. I have personally seen 12.9 at the local track and we are not exactly at sea level. That was just from my own personal observations. I don't think 12.7 is out of reach in perfect conditions. ;)

The reason why I stated the GTR will consistently ET better is due to it's drivetrain layout. I used to bitch slap stock LS1 f-bodies every time at the track with the bone stock turbo on my car and I never trapped over 104mph on it. It was so bad that they re-wrote the rules for the 13.5 SS index class (basically NA) at the local track so I and a few guys here wouldn't run them. Actually, the f-body guys complained IIRC. :jest: :rolleyes:

I didn't expect my OPINION to be popular. :jest:

That's GM's problem I suppose, not mine. A well prepped C6R can be an animal on the track. Unlike most here, I am not prejudiced by brand.

How come everytime a Japenese car loses to an American car in a Drag Race, especially the Almighty, Unbeatable, World Domintating Skyline, someone has to come on here and talk about the Japanese cars ability to go a around a track that noone here will ever lay eyes on.

Who did? I gave the guy PROPS. Are you literate? Re-read my post. I was just expounding on why the GTR is a great car and not some overhyped piece like most people here were alluding to. Of course, most of you guys here get butt hurt thinking that a non-LSI or non-Domestic car cannot be worthy - and I am the idiot? Pick up the mirror.

Because they are pathetic and have no other defense??

Just a guess lol.

"GM Fan" is your handle. Case closed.




And you dont give a fuck about what I think then why are you here defending a car that NOONE HERE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT?

You don't give a fuck? Why are you retorting to these "stupid" posts then? Sharpest tool in the shed I see.

I got owned hardcore :eyes: , and FWIW, some of us have actually seen vehicles compete in actual world events outside the U.S. Don't make assumptions you don't know anything about. :judge: :drive:

FoxNotch
02-16-2007, 01:55 PM
The reason why I stated the GTR will consistently ET better is due to it's drivetrain layout.
yea because everyone knows how to launch a 3300lb awd car perfectly, everytime. I used to think you were a real level headed import driver that made good posts, but it turns out you're just another skyline/supra :swing:

diambo4life
02-16-2007, 01:57 PM
I really love C6 ZO6s, 03 Cobras and Buick GNXs too though. :devil: Include those on the nut-hugging list. ;)

FoxNotch
02-16-2007, 01:59 PM
alright then, we'll call it a draw.

:burn:

necrocannibal
02-16-2007, 03:44 PM
I still have no idea why we are discussing how well CAR A will perform on a closed circuit track and when fully modded when the OP told a story of him beating one in a drag race where he was definately not fully modded. People like are the ones who get butthurt about your favorite car losing.


Let me tell you something that might blow your mind. I drive a 2006 GTO right now and if I had the money and the ability I would trade it for a GTR R34 V SPEC without ANY hesitation RIGHT NOW!! I just know what they are, what they are capable of stock and modded and know they arent anything special when it all comes down to everything.