Street Racing & Kill Stories - ls1's vs. srt4's

i killed a bunch in my old grand national, none yet in the t/a. I've got some kid though that dumped like 6 grand into one talking shit on the t/a and ls1's in general. i told him id race from a dig and that he has the cutest chick car ive ever seen.

anyway, whats your experiences with these cars?

I've only ran a few. They were all stage 1 with wastegate, exhaust, intake, bov...

I beat them easily. But 6k into an srt is a lot. It can be a very sick car. You better watch out!!

I've riden in a Stage 2 and it was pretty damn quick. Like BayAreaSS said, 6k is a lot into an srt4 so yeah watch out.

i worded that wrong im sorry, he blew it up and spent like 6k on a rebuild, my bad. im pretty sure its still the stage 2 turbo.

i worded that wrong im sorry, he blew it up and spent like 6k on a rebuild, my bad. im pretty sure its still the stage 2 turbo.


stage 1 2 and 3 all use the factory turbo...and if he spent 6k on a rebuild...he put something in that engine other then factory parts...and it IS enough that IF he knows the right people, hes gotta a nasty turbo on there too for around 6,000 with the engine rebuild included.. id be careful with this kid, if what he says is true...its no joke. 6k into a rebuild can get you a LOT....

I actually raced him 3 times with the grand national before he blew it up, but the old GN i had went 11.5's in kill mode, so i was a huge shit talker when i drove that thing. even on a street tune.

funny thing is he blew the damn thing up trying to run to much boost so he could beat the GN(wasn't gonna happen). So he really has it out for me and my car. Now ive got the ls1 and i can't let him win...if i apply enough pressure before the race he'll miss a shift, hehe

you have a good chance from a dig, as long as he is on street tires. He will not hook for crap with street tires. I see them all the time at the track, even stock spinning like a mofo off of the line.

he's says he's got some bfg DR's on some steelies, but he didn't sound convincing

Well one way to find out for sure.

line em up!

Well one way to find out for sure.

line em up!


+1, line em up!

i don't know what the question is,

but the answer is nitrous :judge:

My friend has $4500 in his SRT4 if you count the money he made back from selling his stock parts.

11.8@122 on a DR.

i don't know what the question is,

but the answer is nitrous :judge:
:jest:

I wouldn't get too cocky with just an intake, exhaust and DRs Fbody LS1 against a modded SRT-4. You are smart to go from a dig...

Not related, but I have raced out at MAR in wentzville a few times before they closed it.

stage 1 2 and 3 all use the factory turbo...and if he spent 6k on a rebuild...he put something in that engine other then factory parts...and it IS enough that IF he knows the right people, hes gotta a nasty turbo on there too for around 6,000 with the engine rebuild included.. id be careful with this kid, if what he says is true...its no joke. 6k into a rebuild can get you a LOT....

That is incorrect. Stage 3 is an upgraded turbo. Its small but upgraded nonetheless. They can be very quick with Stage 3. If you go from a dig you should be OK, but be careful from a roll.

I've raced a couple modded SRT's (not sure what was all done but they both said they weren't stock) And it was pretty even from a dig to about 70 mph and i started to creep away. If i launched hard i killed them from a dig through 1st and they pull a little to about my back bumper and at the upper speed's i start to pull again. Fast little cars for 4 cylinders:) i just hate most of the owners.~Cole~

if he was smart he would pass on the stage 3 and get a 50 trim dbb......my buddy has one and he can give me a good run eith me on spray......on motor I get walked like a dog

Damn I hate most SRT4 owners, I take my Cobra to the dealership to get a free car wash, well the a salesman has to drive the car threw the wash. I give this guy the keys. Me "Be carful going threw the wash because the car is on DR and can get squirel fast." He replys "it's ok I own a performance car", Me "what is it?" "Oh a SRT4." Me, "Your SRT4 doesn't have 800rwtq"
He comes back and says "Damn you weren't joking" :gtfo:

my buddy has an srt4 that runs low 11's at the track on slicks, but on street tires it is totally worthless. so it just depends on the situation i guess.

i worded that wrong im sorry, he blew it up and spent like 6k on a rebuild, my bad. im pretty sure its still the stage 2 turbo.

$6,000.00 in mods is a lot for any car, I dont care what it is. I could buy forged internals and a Procharger for that much, and still have money left over.

sounds like its gonna come down to the driver, im prolly gonna wait till i get a tune for my car. would a cut-out help?

Not related, but I have raced out at MAR in wentzville a few times before they closed it.


MAR was great, i live about 3 minutes away from it used to be. now i gotta go to the ghetto to run (gateway).

A buddy of mine at work has one and its not slow. He keeps right up with me from a roll. With race gas, its a really fast car. There is another one around here that goes to the local car show that runs 11.79 with stage 3 setup and slipping clutch. 3rd gear in those cars is really strong, they're very dangerous from a roll if they have more than stage 1. Even with just stage 1, still very respectable cars.

MAR was great, i live about 3 minutes away from it used to be. now i gotta go to the ghetto to run (gateway).

Yeah me and all my friends used to cruise out there if we wanted good traction. I was sorry to hear they closed it down.

Im a lil disappointed with the stock versions. raced one from bout an 60 mph roll and destroyed it but eh maybe he wasnt tryin couldnt hear his engine over mine anyway his girlfriend was laughin though. but as for modded ones they are quick as hell know a guy with an 11 sec one

i know of at least 4 11 second ones that run around my area, with a LOT of the others being in the 12s. Still a neon, but still impressive for a neon i suppose.

they are little monsters from a roll.

stage 3 is actually a 50trim turbo from mopar. if he has a GT30 or GT35r im gonna have to say thats a lose for you. last week a C/H c6 ran a GT30r srt4 from a stop and only pulled 2cars on the srt4 @ 120mph. so they can shit and get.

i say drop a 100 to 125shot on the t/a and go rape face.

they are little monsters from a roll.

stage 3 is actually a 50trim turbo from mopar. if he has a GT30 or GT35r im gonna have to say thats a lose for you. last week a C/H c6 ran a GT30r srt4 from a stop and only pulled 2cars on the srt4 @ 120mph. so they can shit and get.

i say drop a 100 to 125shot on the t/a and go rape face.

The S3 from Mopar is not a 50trim, it is smaller.

I lost to an SRT-4 once. He was only pushing 20LBS of boost :D

My friend has an srt4 with factory mopar stage 2 and only runs 14.0 at the quickest maybe 13.7s with a better driver.

on their boards stage three is usually mid 12's with a decent driver. high elevens professionally driven (emphasis on professional)

neons are slow, you'll kill him...

He has no hope, talk much shit and then rub it in...

Haha! Listen to this guy^^^^ he knows what he's talking about.

636 hp and 596 tq....thats fucking amazing. Care to enlighten us on some of the mods? I really would like to know how built that engine is. The fastest one in my town has a lil over 400.

636 hp and 596 tq....thats fucking amazing. Care to enlighten us on some of the mods? I really would like to know how built that engine is. The fastest one in my town has a lil over 400.


Car has 8:8:1 .020 Weisco forged Pistons/Eagle Rods
Fully ported/polished big valve race head
Darrell Cox Racing studs/head gasket
GT35R Dual Ball Bearing Turbocharger with custom cast iron turbo manifold/Turbonetics wastegate vented to atmosphere
AGP Large Frount Mounted Intercooler/AGP Intake
Ragetek ported intake manifold
Zapp throttlebody
1000cc/96lb injectors controlled via Emanage
Stage 2 Mopar PCM/Tip/Map sensors
MpX 3inch Turbo back
Custom fuel setup/return/Walbro's/billet rising regulator
AGP Hardpipes
TurboXLS dual stage boost controller
Stock coil/Mopar performance wires/NGK Iridiums
Stage 4 disc/lieghtweight flywheel

Tuned for street/strip - Low Boost/High boost 35+ psi setting

To name a few....

i dunno... 6 grand in even a rebuilt motor seems like a lot. i wouldn't take him lightly. those MT ET streets will definitely help u out tho. good luck and remember to post the results on here!

Stock vs. stock, you can bust their ass! If your LS1 is any bit modified then you'll shove his ass up his mouth. But don't get me wrong...I have encountered a few that have been Stage 2 and 3'd and they can be potentially dangerous. But it takes a mad amount of goodies to make an SRT 4 walk an LS1.

And preach on brother LS1 owners...lol

i saw him the other day and asked when we're gonna "dance." and he said as soon as his motor is broken-in.

he's got like 1000 more miles or so.

Car has 8:8:1 .020 Weisco forged Pistons/Eagle Rods
Fully ported/polished big valve race head
Darrell Cox Racing studs/head gasket
GT35R Dual Ball Bearing Turbocharger with custom cast iron turbo manifold/Turbonetics wastegate vented to atmosphere
AGP Large Frount Mounted Intercooler/AGP Intake
Ragetek ported intake manifold
Zapp throttlebody
1000cc/96lb injectors controlled via Emanage
Stage 2 Mopar PCM/Tip/Map sensors
MpX 3inch Turbo back
Custom fuel setup/return/Walbro's/billet rising regulator
AGP Hardpipes
TurboXLS dual stage boost controller
Stock coil/Mopar performance wires/NGK Iridiums
Stage 4 disc/lieghtweight flywheel

Tuned for street/strip - Low Boost/High boost 35+ psi setting

To name a few....

Holy christ...that is insane. How much did you spend all together on a fully built engine like that? And what kind of suspension upgrades did you do.

Car has 8:8:1 .020 Weisco forged Pistons/Eagle Rods
Fully ported/polished big valve race head
Darrell Cox Racing studs/head gasket
GT35R Dual Ball Bearing Turbocharger with custom cast iron turbo manifold/Turbonetics wastegate vented to atmosphere
AGP Large Frount Mounted Intercooler/AGP Intake
Ragetek ported intake manifold
Zapp throttlebody
1000cc/96lb injectors controlled via Emanage
Stage 2 Mopar PCM/Tip/Map sensors
MpX 3inch Turbo back
Custom fuel setup/return/Walbro's/billet rising regulator
AGP Hardpipes
TurboXLS dual stage boost controller
Stock coil/Mopar performance wires/NGK Iridiums
Stage 4 disc/lieghtweight flywheel

Tuned for street/strip - Low Boost/High boost 35+ psi setting

To name a few....


See guys...now that's a mad amount of mods right there! Kudos my friend on a well built powerhouse Skittle car.

636 hp and 596 tq....thats fucking amazing. Care to enlighten us on some of the mods? I really would like to know how built that engine is. The fastest one in my town has a lil over 400.

What color is that car? I live in Sierra Vista also.

in his sig he has a red one...

in his sig he has a red one...

I was talking about AznMuscle's reference to one in his town being just over 400hp. I live in the same small BFE town as him.

I wasn't talking about LittleMT's. Her's is red indeed.

Sorry for the off topic.

Wes

i smell ya, i shoulda read the quote before i typed

Damn I hate most SRT4 owners, I take my Cobra to the dealership to get a free car wash, well the a salesman has to drive the car threw the wash. I give this guy the keys. Me "Be carful going threw the wash because the car is on DR and can get squirel fast." He replys "it's ok I own a performance car", Me "what is it?" "Oh a SRT4." Me, "Your SRT4 doesn't have 800rwtq"
He comes back and says "Damn you weren't joking" :gtfo:

:funny: Damn, that's just priceless there. You know you wanted to :bash: that moron. :jest:

Those SRT-4s remind me of those old turbo dodge omnis.....my grandma had two of them...but the non-turbo...i'm personally not impressed with either

I said it before, I'll say it again, SRT4 neons are pieces of shit like all neons

I said it before, I'll say it again, SRT4 neons are pieces of shit like all neons

:offtopic:

I said it before, I'll say it again, SRT4 neons are pieces of shit like all neons

Tell that to LittleMT who makes ALOT of power.

Damn I hate most SRT4 owners, I take my Cobra to the dealership to get a free car wash, well the a salesman has to drive the car threw the wash. I give this guy the keys. Me "Be carful going threw the wash because the car is on DR and can get squirel fast." He replys "it's ok I own a performance car", Me "what is it?" "Oh a SRT4." Me, "Your SRT4 doesn't have 800rwtq"
He comes back and says "Damn you weren't joking" :gtfo:

:jest:

That's some funny shit. 802rwtq! :eek2: :eek2: Nasty!

The owners do seem to be a little on the cocky, arrogant, and uninformed side.

They tend to only know what their cars will do.

i dont worry about the skittles with the owners who are cocky, i worry about the ones who are quiet and have DRs up front...then...i know there possibly a problem.

Tell that to LittleMT who makes ALOT of power.
I don't care, you can make a lot of power in a CRX and it's still a CRX in the end. Neons suck, sorry if anyone likes those ugly, turd, econoboxes, but they are junk. They were designed for the arrogant teenage ricer and if they can even go fast at all its in a straight line. A Cobalt SS is a MUCH better car all around because bolt-alls make it quick, and it handles on par, if not better than BMWs. And it looks better, cause, well, it doesn't look like a crappy neon. Then again SRT4s don't think they own neons...

I don't care, you can make a lot of power in a CRX and it's still a CRX in the end. Neons suck, sorry if anyone likes those ugly, turd, econoboxes, but they are junk. They were designed for the arrogant teenage ricer and if they can even go fast at all its in a straight line. A Cobalt SS is a MUCH better car all around because bolt-alls make it quick, and it handles on par, if not better than BMWs. And it looks better, cause, well, it doesn't look like a crappy neon. Then again SRT4s don't think they own neons...

You sir, are sounding more and more like the arrogant, ignorant tools you so disdain...

:corn:

What color is that car? I live in Sierra Vista also.

The black one with all orange decals. I hear it's 401 or something to the wheels. What do you drive? And did you graduate Buena, or still in it?

I don't care, you can make a lot of power in a CRX and it's still a CRX in the end. Neons suck, sorry if anyone likes those ugly, turd, econoboxes, but they are junk. They were designed for the arrogant teenage ricer and if they can even go fast at all its in a straight line. A Cobalt SS is a MUCH better car all around because bolt-alls make it quick, and it handles on par, if not better than BMWs. And it looks better, cause, well, it doesn't look like a crappy neon. Then again SRT4s don't think they own neons...

You may not like SRT-4's, thats fine. Everyone has their own views, likes/dislikes, thats ok. Look at the amount of power he is making, in case you havent checked, its ALOT. :eek2: To not like a particular model of car is one thing, but if its a fast car, atleast give him his respect and admit he has a fast car. I am a die hard GM fan thru and thru, but if there is another car out there that is fast, atleast give it some respect.

well here is my only run in with a srt4
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/5e3a0206-303d-4526-90b5-98d900e62804.htm

I ran an srt 4 the other day...didn't really know much about em...he was pulling off the race track onto the highway...I was just cruising back home from a friends...I have three adults in my car and he shoots up on me with his girlfriend in the car...said he wanted to roll from 40...I was like sure....He gassed about a second before I noticed he did...So I punch it...and walked like six car lengths..and upon shifting kept pulling away then at about 110 I left off...he was at least 15 car lenghts behind if not more...and my car is so out of tune...running rich as hell...and burning like a quart of oil anytime I hold it over 4k rpm for a few minutes...I truely smoked him...with twin clouds of black smoke....lol

i dont worry about the skittles with the owners who are cocky, i worry about the ones who are quiet and have DRs up front...then...i know there possibly a problem.
damn aint that the truth....and thats w/ anybody....whenever i go to meets and see the guys who sit and listen and are quiet, are the ones that have me curious and usually have somthin that run ya into the ground