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Old 02-28-2007, 10:24 AM
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Old 02-28-2007, 11:08 AM
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i wonder if this converter was made before or after the storm?
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Stirrin the Pot eh?. LOL
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which series do you have? HPStreet? and is it Pre or Post **** Storm?
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I really question the quality of Fuddle converters.
When I recieved my Fuddle HP/street it had helicoils (sp?) in all 3 of the mounting holes. A brand new converter with a billet front cover with repaired mounting holes. Anyone else's fuddle show up like that? When I questioned it I was told it was a non issue because they had that same converter behind 1500hp motors in dragsters. Long story short, the fuddle never made into my car and now I have a Yank.
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I'm going to leave this open to give John a chance to respond. Don't turn this into a flame fest or name calling.
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Originally Posted by NEVR2ND
I am just trying to figure out why a 3400 stall is slipping 15-20% at WOT.
Same syndrome with my 3400
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15-20% is excessive and soemthing we have not seen. Have you checked all other factors? What stall speed are you getting out of it now? We would be happy to restall and can move to a more efficient stator setup for you.

As to the brazed fins, we do hand braze our turbine fins; you aren't seeing the whole picture with the outside row. That is the area that takes the abuse, hence Yank's double wall and our metallic backbone.
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You have to look at what slip %, in the context of
where. Especially on a low-STR converter you will
see a long transitional region where you have the
torque multiplication declining toward 1:1 and the
slip RPM staying relatively constant or declining as
well. Some of the slip is not inefficiency, but fluid
torque multiplication.

Yank's tech pages have a good illustration of this
characteristic.

Raw slip numbers can only show you a minimum,
not necessarily true delivered efficiency because
power out the back is TQ*RPM and any residual
torque multiplication is a bonus, one that's not
observable with scan tools unfortunately.

By 6000RPM my 3500/2.0 is slipping only 5%. But
lower down it slips much more, as does every other
converter I've been able to acquire scan data for.

If you post a log or Excel file I can put yours up
against the others for comparison. Noting the mods
or HP/TQ numbers would be helpful for context, that
stretches the slip RPM.
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We will put this tread to rest for now.
Jimmyblue I will PM you some #.
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Moderators we can deleate this tread. I am trying to work this out with Fuddle and figure out what is going on.
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Another key to analyzing slip is to know when the converter is designed to couple up. A converter designed for 7000 rpm shifts may show a lot of slip at 5500 rpm and doing its job perfectly.
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