Bacardi151

So here is my deal. I have a bone stock 2000 Trans Am (Auto trans). My brother has a 71 Corvette. While I have no interest in drag racing, I would like to do some track events (road racing, lap days, HPDE, etc.) I have four main goals:
1) Compete evenly or have an edge with my brother in track events.
2) CA Smog Legal
3) Daily driver
4) I am a value guy. I don't buy cheap stuff. I dont buy the best you can buy. As an example if I am buying an AMD CPU right now...I would buy Opteron 2.4 Ghz for $900 ($375/Ghz). I would find it hard to justify $1,150 for a 2.6 Ghz ($250 for .2 Ghz more). There is NO WAY I am spending $1,600 for a 2.8 Ghz ($700 for .4 Ghz more). Its not that I cant afford it, I just can't justify it..

Information on my brother's car:
71 Corvette
Moderate 454 (Edelbrock Performer RPM heads, aggressive cam)- not dyno'd but I am guessing mid to high 500's in flywheel torque and power.
Complete Vette Brakes Suspension kit: http://www.vbandp.com/detail.aspx?ID=474
Car has all non-essential items like AC removed.
Performance built 700R4 Tranny
Minor mods to brakes (maybe upgraded pistons, but stock calipers)
Don't know what wheels/tires he will be going with.

I rulled out naturally aspirated, because I have gone the heads/headers/intake, etc. route before and CA Smog is too much of a hassle. I ruled out Nitrous, because I (having no experience with nitrous) assume that while it is well suited to street and drag racing, it is not as practical for use in road racing. Am I right?

I know the P1SC is smog legal, but can I get enough power out of it to stay competitve without a lot of other mods like headers that will put me back in the smog nightmare? How much of an issue is belt slippage?

I know there is a lot love/hate with the STS rear mount turbo, but it looks like it will get me in the ballpark and has a CARB EO like the P1SC.

Lets avaoid the which is better debates. Will both solutions meet my needs? Which one will reliably put me where I want for the least $$ and what are the mininmum equipment needs for each one to run them reliably in a daily driver and light them up at the track?

Any other methods/brands/ect. that I should be looking at?

Slowhawk

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Converter and gears will put you probly even with him.A P1 will put you ahead but you will probly need to build the tranny.

theroad64

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Not in road racing it wont. Procharger.

LASTLS1

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You should be able to beat him bone stock.

Black_Bird

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Agreed. Weren't the older Corvettes with big block engines hard as hell as far as steering goes? I dont see a moderate 454 making that kind of power, especially not upper 500's. Might be wrong there though, no telling exactly what he has done from where I'm sitting. You will beat him the way your car sits right now, try it.

Whistler

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That's what I was thinking too. Back when my 99 had just bolt ons I could keep up with or beat all sorts of supposed 4 and 500 HP cars. Especially the old school guys.

Black_Bird

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Old school guys tend to 'over-exaggerate' how much horsepower there cars used to have, haha.

PowerShift408

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I agree with them. If I had to bet on a drag race between you guys, I'd bet on you every day of the week, and 2 times on Sunday. And there is no way that car should hang with yours in the twisties. If it does, send Sam Strano a message, tell him your goals, and he will get you setup. The man knows how to set up a road racing f-body.

00WHITETA

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Just wondering how a 300 rwhp f-body will hang with a upper 500's motor corvette? Doesn't make all that much sence to me. I will agree with the cornering part but not the straight shot unless he just don't know how to drive.


Jimmy

EPP

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http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com....html?item=540

This list I created may help you out. I would go with the P-1SC, you will be very happy with it. Order it with the upgraded 4.5" intercoolers, and with the upgraded eight rib belt system, and you will be very happy with it.

http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com....html?item=798
I could set you up with the P-1SC in place of the D-1SC that is in this kit. There would be a $200.00 deduction in the price. Bob

LASTLS1

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Because I bet the 454 doesn't make anywhere near that hp. Do you know how many of those old school turds I beat on the street with my one ton, crew cab dually? Not all, but most of them couldn't get out of their own way. Don't get me wrong I LOVE some of the old school muscle cars but MOST of them don't perform.

Bacardi151

Yeah, what he said.

Edelbrock got 500+ flywheel HP outta there Performer RPM set. I know his builder put in a more agressive cam and used a better intake and carb. Plus, I have ridden in it and it takes off like a rocket. Add to that the modern vette suspension that is in it making it feel like go cart and I dont see how I am keeping up. Losing 200hp in a heavier car is

Bacardi151

I have already read that list several times. Thanks!

With the upgrades to the super charger, will it still fly with the Peoples Repoublick of Kalifornia's SMOG bs?

unSStoppable

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You'll blow him out of the water with a S/C... I wouldnt be suprised to hear that u beat him near stock form

00WHITETA

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I mean I guess im just thinking about this alot different than yall. My dad has a 69' vette 427 bbc 400 hp tri power car and I know a stock WS6 or SS wouldn't hang with it. Maybe as stated before in the turnes yes but a straight away no.

Jimmy

Urban Legend

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P1SC for win and its legal in Schwarzenneger country.