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Old 03-11-2007, 11:04 AM
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Whats the verdict on the MAF placement on a turbo system? I was going to wire it back to the front of the turbo but if it will be fine after.
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You're going to need to leave it at close to stock location. I doubt it would work very well 15 feet away from the engine.
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I had mine in front of the turbo for a while as a draw through system. The fueling consistency was great, BUT........

Everytime the blow off valve opened on a shift, it would go super duper rich for a second.

If I tried to go from boost to idle, like after a burnout, or after I crossed the traps, the engine would stall from being too rich.

After is better I think.
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Originally Posted by LT Malice
I had mine in front of the turbo for a while as a draw through system. The fueling consistency was great, BUT........

Everytime the blow off valve opened on a shift, it would go super duper rich for a second.

If I tried to go from boost to idle, like after a burnout, or after I crossed the traps, the engine would stall from being too rich.

After is better I think.

a recirculating BOV woulda fixed that. So is that the ONLY reason you didnt like it in front of the turbo? cuz im trying to figure out the same thing.
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I'm pretty sure you want the MAF metering ALL the air going into the engine...so after the MAF would be best IMO.
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Originally Posted by Snyper
a recirculating BOV woulda fixed that. So is that the ONLY reason you didnt like it in front of the turbo? cuz im trying to figure out the same thing.
I'm pretty sure your right that the recirc would have fixed the prob.

My maf was placed 8" above the road and was taking alot of damage from road crap. The cable from the MAF to the PCM was really long and adding distortion. It didn't have a long straight run between the filter and the MAF, so it got turbulent airflow. It idled crappy and had alot of hiccups.

I converted to blow through for all around better running.
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Mine is blow threw instead of pull threw, It ran alot better like this, so let it see the air coming in
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i would asume you would want to run the MAF after the turbo, that is if you are evening running one..
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Mine is in the center of the car, just behind the air-dam...probably no more than 10" off the ground or so. Air goes through the FMIC, makes a 90 into about 1.5' of strait pipe then into the MAF. Car runs great at all RPMs.

No road damage that I can see...
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i say ditch it and run a SD tune!

...........or go blow through. by far the best way and tried and tested on this plaform.

thanks Chris.
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What MAF?
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I didnt even think anyone ran a MAF on a turbo car anymore, especialy with the nice new SD operating system enhancements out there.
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Originally Posted by brad8266
I didnt even think anyone ran a MAF on a turbo car anymore, especialy with the nice new SD operating system enhancements out there.
i heard one tuner say that he found it better on a supercharged car to run a blow through MAF than go SD. he said it was the fact that you know what PSI a supercharger will be making at any given RPM at WOT, you dont with a turbo!

still there are many people running very streetable setups that are SD tuned.

thanks Chris.
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Originally Posted by chuntington101
i heard one tuner say that he found it better on a supercharged car to run a blow through MAF than go SD. he said it was the fact that you know what PSI a supercharger will be making at any given RPM at WOT, you dont with a turbo!

I disagree with that. In my opinion SD is always the best solution for a forced induction car.
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I run a MAF and it works great...of course, I'm not surpassing that magical 500hp mark. I would prefer SD in some circumstances, but don't you have to re-tune the car every time the weather changes?

IMO, if it's a daily driver < 500rwhp, I say stick with the MAF. If it's an FI track car...go with SD.
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Originally Posted by INTMD8
I disagree with that. In my opinion SD is always the best solution for a forced induction car.
like i said it was only his opinion. each to there owne i guess. lol

just your coment just goes to prove that SD is really the way to go!

Chris.



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