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Old 03-12-2007, 08:40 AM
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Has anyone had any spark knock with the msd curve, The fi only use around 30 total i belived, i am getting knock but my carb is lean, i dont see how it is so lean with 72 jets in front and 78s in rear on a 750 vac.
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Has anyone had any spark knock with the msd curve, The fi only use around 30 total i belived, i am getting knock but my carb is lean, i dont see how it is so lean with 72 jets in front and 78s in rear on a 750 vac.
Man, be very carefull with the msd setup. I found out the other day that I was probably on the edge of blowing something up due to the factory timing on the box. What happends is the map sensor automatically adds 6-7 deg of timing untop of your mechanical curve. I was accidentatly running 44-46 deg of total timing this whole time. I basically just disabled the map sensor and am running a custom mechanical advance (like the old days of mech advance only dist).

I am running 75 front and 78 in the rear and it was a little lean. I am going back to the dyno now that I got my timing issues worked out and re-tune it.
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I dont have the map sensor hooked up it says optional.
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So far on my LS6 i haven't noticed any knock. I am running the edelbrock ignition setup
with the #3 pill. I don't understand why y'all are running lean, with the 625 road demon
i had to reduce my IFR's and IAB's cause i was running extremely rich at idle and cruise.
Now i have it pretty much dialed in 14.4-.7 @idle, 13.9-14.4@cruise, 12.8-13.3@WOT,
this is with 70's up front and 78's in rear. What kind of vacuum #'s are you pulling at idle
and WOT? You may have to change your power valve to a looser one if you are pulling
a lot of vacuum.
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Not sure if my gauge is right or not but i think i had 21 at idle. I have a new 8.5pv
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I closed the secondaries some and richened up the idle a little and there is no more pining but it is a little rich now.
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I'm running a 10.5 now that I leaned out my idle and cruise to where I want it. Seems to
work just right with my setup.
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anyone know if there is a built in rev limit with the plug in pill, my car is breaking up real bad at around 5500 but tach could be off i guess, it runs great up to there, plugs are black except some of the ground strap looks pretty clean.
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i built my own ignition system for my carb 5.3ls and set the timing in 200 rpm steps with max advance 36* using a stock computer and efi live to set advance works really great, i don't know much about the msd box , but i know that carbs like more advance than efi .
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Originally Posted by Vcious04
Man, be very carefull with the msd setup. I found out the other day that I was probably on the edge of blowing something up due to the factory timing on the box. What happends is the map sensor automatically adds 6-7 deg of timing untop of your mechanical curve. I was accidentatly running 44-46 deg of total timing this whole time. I basically just disabled the map sensor and am running a custom mechanical advance (like the old days of mech advance only dist).

I am running 75 front and 78 in the rear and it was a little lean. I am going back to the dyno now that I got my timing issues worked out and re-tune it.
There is a total timing limit that can be set on the msd box with the tuning software.My limit is set at 38*total, I dynoed mine this weekend and mad 20 more horse by cutting back my timming to 32*
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cool. Did you try any lower,

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Are you carbed guys running a distributor?
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Originally Posted by s10-den
Are you carbed guys running a distributor?


No,Just a programable msd box that fires the coils.
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Originally Posted by Darracq
cool. Did you try any lower,
At 29* it made 4hp less than 32*
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I just set mine up for 32 all in by 2500, runs real good, still breaks up at around 5600 or so, i guess my valve springs are weak, it does show my tach off by a little but only 100 rpm or so, but it is hard to watch when i get on it. going to try and go to the track tomarrow.
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What cam and valve springs are you running?
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Originally Posted by 6L.IROC-Z
What cam and valve springs are you running?

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You carb guys see where they put the hei in the ls1?
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I saw somewhere they put a distrubtor in one, dont think it was a hei though,
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yea.it was a HEI.Ill have to find my book again,it used a ford drive gear on the distributor,dont ask me why......lol


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