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Old 03-14-2007, 11:02 AM
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There is a guy who is selling his 99 ss on this forum that i' have interest in. Black 1999 Camaro SS, M6, LS6 intake, TSP smoked lid, K&N, Z06 wheels with Nitto's, GMMG Chambered catback, BMR strut brace, Pro 5.0 With LSS with 48k on it asking 11.
i did a car fax and this is what it said..

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1999 CHEVROLET CAMARO Z28
2G1FP22G3X2138709
COUPE
5.7L V8 PFI OHV / REAR WHEEL DRIVE
Standard Equipment | Safety Options
CARFAX Safety & Reliability Report

Hi-I'm the CARFAX Xpert™. I'm here to help you better understand the data in this CARFAX Report. Did you know...
We checked over 4 billion records from thousands of public and private sources for this vehicle
This vehicle qualifies for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee
The last reported odometer reading was 30,428







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The number of owners is estimated by CARFAX Owners 1-2 Owner 3 Owner 4
Year purchased 1999 2004 2004
Type of owner Corporate fleet --- ---
Estimated length of ownership 5 yrs. 1 mo. 10 days 2 yrs. 4 mo.
Owned in the following states/provinces Michigan Michigan Michigan
Estimated miles driven per year 32,850/yr --- ---
Last reported odometer reading 116,731 30,428




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Total Loss Check

No total loss reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported
No Issues Reported
No Issues Reported

Frame Damage Check

No frame damage reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported
No Issues Reported
No Issues Reported

Airbag Deployment Check

No airbag deployment reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported
No Issues Reported
No Issues Reported

Odometer Rollback Check

Potential odometer rollback indicated. No Issues Indicated
No Issues Indicated
Potential Odometer Rollback

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No accidents reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported
No Issues Reported
No Issues Reported

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A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 4 billion vehicle history events and found 6 record(s) for this 1999 CHEVROLET CAMARO Z28 (2G1FP22G3X2138709).



Owner 1
Purchased: 1999
Type: Corporate fleet
Where: Michigan
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 9/14/99 - 4/2/03
(3 yrs. 6 mo.)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
09/14/1999 Michigan
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Brighton, MI Registered as
corporate vehicle
09/14/1999 206 Michigan
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Brighton, MI
Title #129K2570186 Title or registration issued
First owner reported
11/16/1999 Michigan
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Brighton, MI
Title #299K3200263 Title or registration issued
Registered as lease vehicle




Owner 2
Purchased: 2003
Where: Michigan
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 4/2/03 - 10/18/04
(1 yr. 6 mo.)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
04/02/2003 116,731 Michigan
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Portland, MI
Title #270P0920300 Title or registration issued
New owner reported




Owner 3
Purchased: 2004
Where: Michigan
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 10/18/04 - 10/28/04
(10 days)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
10/18/2004 Michigan
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Portland, MI
Title #270R2920049 Title issued or updated
Correction to record
New owner reported




Owner 4
Purchased: 2004
Where: Michigan
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 10/28/04 - present
(2 yrs. 4 mo.)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
10/28/2004 30,428 Michigan
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Davison, MI
Title #185R3020282 Title or registration issued
New owner reported
POTENTIAL ODOMETER ROLLBACK
CARFAX Advisor™
CARFAX analyzed the mileage history and the sources of this information. Our analysis indicates a potential odometer rollback. Please verify the mileage with your dealer or a qualified mechanic.




seems like a good price considering what it is, and he said the issue with the milage is because a previous owner and something with putting the wrong milage on something and he said it got fixed because either him or an owner before him didn't want it until the milage was fixed.
is there anyway for me to find out of it's legit and really has 48k on it?
i'm in need of a car and have been looking for an ss or ta
thanks yall
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Either take a look at the odometer reading, or have him take a pic of the odometer reading with something random in the pic that you request to be in it so you know it was just taken. Example...have him hold up a pen next to the odometer reading and have him send the pic.

I think GM secured the odometer readings pretty well so they can't be fudged. They can't be changed with standard tuning software so I doubt any regular joe can change it.
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There isn't any way of knowing short of getting the records from the Michigan DMV and trying to locate the previous owners to see how many miles they put on it. You could also take the SN to a dealer & see if they'll run it for you to pull their vehicle history.

I might be cautious about buying a car with a record of possible odometer rollback issues.
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I'd be cautious too. Now that I think about it, you could probably swap computers with a low milage wrecked car and then get your mileage down that way.
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It's obvious the car has at least 116K on it or more. No one screws up writing the mileage down like that. If you had a car with 48K on it, do you think there'd be any way you might "mistakenly" write 1xx,xxx miles? Not happening. The car is worth about half what is being asked for it. Stay away.
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Here's another Camaro SS for sale from another member here on LS1tech https://ls1tech.com/forums/vehicles-sale-lsx-powered-only/652880-2001-black-black-ss-camaro-966-a.html
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i appreciate yalls help
i saw that other ss and it's gorgeous, but my limit is 11k so 14 is a little out of reach
thanks yall!




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