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Old 03-16-2007, 03:15 PM
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now that it has been installed and the shim to the clutch ingages a 1/5 inch off the floor. after 500 mile break in will it come back up?
Old 03-16-2007, 03:51 PM
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You are sure the shim was installed? If so then it sounds like a possible hydraulic issue. Have you upgraded to the newer hydraulic parts from GM? Let me know and I will be happy to assist you further.
Old 03-16-2007, 04:38 PM
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mine never engaged that low the spec 3 did but not the 3+ im with spec-01 on the hydraulic issue
Old 03-16-2007, 04:41 PM
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The disk might have alot of high spot's.If it goes into first and reverse without grinding it is ok to drive.The peddle will come up a bit. We've never had a 3+ engage that low though.
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I just got mine installed and it does engage a little lower than the stocker. I had it done by a good reputable shop though and I trust their work. I guess we will see what the future holds for it.
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i have a 2001 so i no it has the updated hydrolics maybe i need it to be flushed and i no the shim was installed because i kept all the parts that came out of it and with the spec 3 i took out the paper shim. so i know with the 3+ it has the metal one. so does anyone think i should flush the hydrolics
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Well I just swapped to the 2002+ Hydraulics. Does that make it release lower or something? I really done think you have an issue as long as it shifts correctly and doesnt bind anywhere.
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Originally Posted by jdaniel
Well I just swapped to the 2002+ Hydraulics. Does that make it release lower or something? I really done think you have an issue as long as it shifts correctly and doesnt bind anywhere.
When you guys say you updated the hydraulics, what all did that consist of?? I'm thinking about dumpin my McCleod adjustable when I install the 4th clutch in as many years.

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well now i have a big problem i think my slave is leaking from the metal shim and not letting any pressure from the hydrolics to engage gears could this be true?
Old 03-18-2007, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Y2K SS
When you guys say you updated the hydraulics, what all did that consist of?? I'm thinking about dumpin my McCleod adjustable when I install the 4th clutch in as many years.

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From what I gather here... '97-'01 slave and master cylinders were weak (which is why my pedal stays on the foor at the track I assume). So just go to GM and get any sc and mc from a 2002+ and you will be set. Thats what I did!
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Originally Posted by Disturbed Bird
well now i have a big problem i think my slave is leaking from the metal shim and not letting any pressure from the hydrolics to engage gears could this be true?

Thats probably all of your problem right there. Anytime you have a hydraulic leak you wont build pressure and you introduce air into the system and then nothing will work right! Get it fixed asap.
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ya its going back monday. so with everything sealed corretly will that fix my problem of my low engagment (engaging 1/5 inch off the floor) and do i need to keep that black rubber thing in my master cylinder resvorior and if so how much fluid do i put in it before i put the rubber thing in

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Old 03-18-2007, 10:56 PM
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anyone?
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The black rubber dome looking thing on the lid is what I am assuming your talking about...Yes keep it on and go by the indicated full mark which is about half of the resivor.
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well problem fixed it needed a new slave and now the engagment on the clutch is back to were its suppose to be.
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Ill never run a spec after so many problems with our cars, and others
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i love it no that my hydros are fixed it nev er chatters or makes any noise. its very smooth. i hated my spec 3 but the 3+ is a night and day difference. but i also have the aluminum fly with steal inserts
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Ive had nothing but great luck with Spec. Probably because its always installed correctly and I didnt really lead foot the gas till after 500 miles of city/highway driving. Im currently on 260 miles on this Spec 3+ and just barely laid into it a little tonight and it was great.
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i got mine installed at next level performance i dont have a lift and i dont have trany stands or nothing to drop it with plus i know it would be done right
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Originally Posted by jdaniel
Ive had nothing but great luck with Spec. Probably because its always installed correctly and I didnt really lead foot the gas till after 500 miles of city/highway driving. Im currently on 260 miles on this Spec 3+ and just barely laid into it a little tonight and it was great.
Its all about a good install, torqued bolts, clean parts, and proper break in.


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