Automatic Transmission - Another "which stall" question




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nofearracing28
03-18-2007, 05:24 PM
Just got an 02 Z28 and a stall is going to be my first mod. Eventually I will have all bolt-ons. It will not be a DD, but driven alot/
What stall is right for me???


nofearracing28
03-19-2007, 12:24 AM
Anyone?

Dmoney
03-19-2007, 12:55 AM
When I first got my car, that was my first mod. I started with a Vigilante 2800, but that was to small and not much of a difference from stock. Then I went to a Vig. 3600. That one felt like stock ,but ran like a raped ape. My suggestion is to go between a 3200-3600 for a DD.............


Hooper
03-19-2007, 02:26 AM
As the poster above said, get a Vigilante 3200 or 3600. You'll be very pleased you did. Now you might have a few tuning issues but these are easily fixed with HP Tuners or any similar program. When I put my first converter (a TCI 3500) in, I had some problems with the pcm retarding timing in certain rpm ranges. This was fixed with tuning. Then again, you might be fine. Others haven't had this problem. Anyways, stall that mofo and start shredding some tires.:)

staringback05
03-19-2007, 08:03 AM
if its a stock dd car....i wouldnt go over a 3200....a 3000 is a good stall esp if your going to get a smaller cam later on....try to ride in a stalled car....remember also higher the stall you get the less gas mpg your going to get for that dd

99Hawk262
03-19-2007, 09:48 AM
I started out with a Yank 3500 and liked it, but it wasn't enough. I upped to a SS4000 and love it, but if I ever change it, it will be for a PT4400. I have full exhaust and a tune. Gears and cam will follow later. Don't be afraid of converters. The 3500 drove almost identical to my current 4000. I say stick somewhere beween 3500-4000.

GregWS6&z28
03-19-2007, 10:12 AM
4000, i wish i ahd 4400 also

BlackZ28629
03-19-2007, 11:02 AM
The problem with going over 2500RPM stall on a stock DD is that you are going to overwork/overheat the converter and have to end up replacing it prematurely. If you do not have heads/cam, then try a 2200-2500 and make sure you get an aux. trans. cooler.

99Hawk262
03-19-2007, 11:56 AM
The problem with going over 2500RPM stall on a stock DD is that you are going to overwork/overheat the converter and have to end up replacing it prematurely. If you do not have heads/cam, then try a 2200-2500 and make sure you get an aux. trans. cooler.

You might as well buy a tornado and electric turbo as well. Point is, 2200-2500 is a waste of money. I run two coolers since I didn't feel the B&M 24K was sufficient by itself and my temps have yet to exceed 210*. Last week at Memphis, after a long burnout and full run, I was about 205*. Cruising around town sees ~150*. A stall that low would leave you wanting so much more. If you want to retain tightness in town and have awesome performance, look into a Yank SS3600. Those who have them say they drive similar to stock but have great WOT response. The key with any converter is adding a good auxiliary cooler. A tranny temp gauge is just extra insurance.

Jackp35
03-19-2007, 03:44 PM
A friend and I installed a SS3600 on my DD last week. Other than taking some more RPMs to get moving, the car drives like it is stock, very streetable. Plus I havent gotten it tuned yet because I had to go back to college so it should run even better once it gets tuned.

radz282003
03-19-2007, 04:27 PM
I have a Yank SS3800 and love it. I wouldn't go any lower than that. Yeah it's loose, but I run two coolers too, and in the 100+* summer heat, she wouldn't get past 180*. At the track I've yet to get much past 180 too. As long as you do a tune and throw a big cooler on there, I'm sure you'll be okay. Consider investing in a temp' gauge too so you can see what's going on and not have to guess. It's been very helpful for me in determining how and where I place my coolers.

Good luck.

staringback05
03-19-2007, 04:56 PM
the point is the guy wants something for his DD car, all those 3500 plus stalls are fine....for track cars...

you put something in that big on a stock A4 and run it like a DD that transmission will fail alot sooner...the four pin planet will eventually rip out...

a 3000 stall for a DD is fine...

99Hawk262
03-19-2007, 06:19 PM
He specifically stated that it is not a DD. My car however is a DD and like I said, my next converter will be a PT4400. I don't go to the track often at all. If you're going to spend the cash, do it right the first time. I truly believe anything less than a 3500 will leave you wanting more.

When I began shopping for mine, I was hesitant to go big. I was told by numerous members here to pick the one I wanted and step it up one size. I wanted a 3200, so I went with the 3500. Like I said, it was great and all, but once you experience the effects, you will want more. I believe there is such a thing as too much stall, but that point will vary from person to person. 3500 is a great all-around beginner. Like mentioned above, find someone in your area with a stalled car and ride/drive theirs. WOT will be one of those unforgettable experiences.

nofearracing28
03-19-2007, 11:34 PM
Thanks for all the help guys! I was debating on either a 3800 or a 3600, so i think ill be ok which ever road i decide to go.

bene
03-19-2007, 11:53 PM
I daily drive my car... hell it is my only transportation and I have 99hawk262 old Yank stall 3500. Car drives like stock on normal driving. My 3.42 and stall netted my ET on my sig and that was on street tires.