dub.ya.es.SICK

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finally finished my Torquer v.3 install with dual springs ls6 pump and ls2 timing chain everything went as smooth as it could bomb oil pressure and pretty decent driveability! im suprised first start up idled fine! thanks TSP love the set up except i got a nice tick how loud should it be? should i switch from 0w40 mobile one to like 10w30? thanks anybody video coming soon!

Z28LS1camaroguy

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did you tighten the rocker arms down to specs and go over them again???

Blk97WS6

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Awesome congrats man! Yeah i agree with Z28Ls1camaroguy, make sure you torqued the rockers correctly, you shouldnt have a loud tick. Torque all the rockers to 22 ft lbs., turn the motor over by hand 3-4 turns, and re-torque.

Xtnct00WS6

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You sure it's not just the typical dual valve springs noise? What length PR's do you have?

dub.ya.es.SICK

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done that how loud should the SEWINIG MACHINE sound be? i can hear it with the windowsdown cruising most RPM's i did 22ft lb then rotated and did 22 i guess I can check in friday 60 miles on it I cant wait to rip on it a little

brad8266

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The sewing machine sound will be pretty loud. Mine quieted down a lot though when i put some 5W-30 in it.

PREDATOR-Z

Too short of p-rods. 5w30 is thin

dub.ya.es.SICK

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ive heard this debate a few times, why do they send me 7.4's if there too short? and should I do 5w30 or 10w30

brad8266

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5w is a little thinner than 10w when cold, so if its cold where you are use 5w

I put 5w30 in last time because they didnt have anything else in at the store that I wanted at the time. I dont need a 5w since I live in GA.

dub.ya.es.SICK

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i know oil just wondering if a thicker oil is more recommended with cam upgrades to help the aggressive valvetrain? i run pretty thin stuff...0w40

brad8266

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0w40 isnt thin once it warms up, it is very thin when cold though.

brad8266

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7.4 p-rods are probably too short, I used them with my setup and I have thin head gaskets and milled down heads. if you have stock gaskets and stock heads those are likely to short and can be causing your tap.

PREDATOR-Z

This has been talked about a zillion time. BASE CIRCLE.
You have a dual lobed cam (LSK/int & XE-R/exht). On a cam only swap with that cam you should use at least 7.425's and up to 7.450 to quiet things down.
If it were me I would have used 7.450 on intake and 7.425 on exhaust.

Any hard clic you hear is the result of metal to metal contact. You figure out the rest.

brad8266

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You just reminded me that it is a dual lobed cam. yeah both of those lobes should have taken a longer p-rod, those lobes have very small bases. I have an XE lobed cam and my base is 1.450, yours is smaller then that. Run the numbers.
You should definetely have larger p-rods than 7.4.

bjamick

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Hold up i've got an MS4 cam waiting to go in and i went with the 7,4's will i have a horrible tapping noise to??????

dub.ya.es.SICK

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so should i use 7.425? how do I check what I need and how long do you think I can run 7.4's

Why does tsp tell me 7.4;s? and also what about torquing my rockers down and extra foot pound or two?

Killer_Bluebird

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Do not over torque your rockers. I have 7.4 on my MS4 which is what TSP recomended. I do have the sewing machine sound but I don't think it too loud. I use RP oil which is a bit thicker than Mobil 1 at the same weight. Try different oil first, longer pushrods might be in order if it is still to loud.

May be you just need a louder exhaust

PREDATOR-Z

Don't panic, most vendors will put 7.400 with their combos, because it is easier to mass produce. TSP didn't do anything wrong, but using that length has increased valvetrain noise.
See vendors are in market to sell as many packages in the most mass friendly way.
Now is there a looong term effect on the components, sure, is it detrimental, sometimes. sometimes has to do how good a shape your motor is and how many miles on it.
Take the stock lifters for instance. will they handle those lifts, sure, were they designed to handle those lifts, NO. so how long they last is like Russian roulette, some do, some don't.
Now is there a better way to do it? Certainly but it is more costly, and the mass enthusiast usualy try to get the most for the least amount of $$.

Any cam with those lobes and specs should idealy get:
1- High lift lifters, like the new Cadillac racing ones and Morels.
2- Cam should be degreed.
3- PTV should be checked
4- Proper springs with the right seat pressure capability used
5- P-rod length should be measured
6- Preload should be measured
7- The whole assembly blueprinted.

That are professional proper procedures that should be followed to maximize output and increase reliability.

bjamick

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Well ive got open headers so i cant get any louder

dub.ya.es.SICK

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good call ill try new oil