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Do these look like a $2000 set of heads to you???????

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Old 03-28-2007, 10:27 AM
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Edelbrock castings. Untouched intake and exhaust ports(other than what was done by edelbrock). Very slight bowl blend. Edelbrock valvetrain right down to the plastic retainers. 175 pounds on the seat, well under 300 pounds at 550 lift(valvefloat from hell). Flow numbers found below. Guess which sponsor sold me these?????

(I have more pics, much better pics, but they are too large to post)


Lift Intake Ex
.100 65 53
.200 128 100
.300 182 136
.400 219 154
.450 228 159
.500 231 163
.550 233 166
.600 234 168
.650 234 169
.700 235 171
.750 236 171
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:29 AM
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By the way, those are the tiny edelbrock valves as part of their "competition valve job". They are now getting redone by another sponsor with 2.08 and 1.6 valves, should flow over 300 cfm for about 1600 bucks.
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Here are the better pics.



http://www.theplaceholder.com/forums...a8d970716d.jpg

http://www.theplaceholder.com/forums...a8dfa7dcc2.jpg

http://www.theplaceholder.com/forums...a8dfa8230b.jpg

http://www.theplaceholder.com/forums...a8dfa8656e.jpg

http://www.theplaceholder.com/forums...a8e058449e.jpg

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Old 03-28-2007, 11:12 AM
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Holy hell thats garbage.... I sold these for 900

http://www.mainstreamtopics.com/~scr...Intake%201.JPG

http://www.mainstreamtopics.com/~scr...Intake%202.JPG

http://www.mainstreamtopics.com/~scr...%20Chamber.JPG

stock valve, with 918 springs,

here is the flow bench

http://www.mainstreamtopics.com/~scr...ch%20Sheet.jpg
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Who sold that garbage to you?
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APE probably, and aren't they technically an "ex-sponsor"?
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That is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to garbage!!! The entire motor is junk! Right down to the cast factory 2 bolt main caps that were holding my supposedly indestructable motor together. All I was able to salvage from that junk motor was the crank(must be repolished), block(must be honed a few thousandths to clean up the cylinders), and the rods that need to be reconditioned. I spent over 11000 bucks for "a motor that runs very strong on motor, that I can spray the hell out of", and I got pile of mismatched crap with SRP pistons(will not hold up to spray), 8.6 to 1 compression with the heads. By the way the deck height was -.023", that sure helps with compression doesnt it. Look up a few of my past threads and youll see who built that pile for me.

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Nope, not AP Engineering.
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Thanks for the help with the pics mattybz28!!!
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Oh, by the way, I cant even reuse the rod bolts because they ground down the heads of them so that they would clear the block!!
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Sounds like you got a set of unported heads from Edlecrap.
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So you spent 2 grand on a long block, not just the heads?
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Originally Posted by Mattybz28
So you spent 2 grand on a long block, not just the heads?
No he said he spent 11,000 on the motor, 2000 on the heads. Im sure the sponsor would not want you to say it but please tell us who so you can save someone else the money.
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Wow .. that sucks man
I hope the work you are having done to them improves those flow numbers.
That port job doesn't look complete at all.

Keeping in mind that flowbench numbers are not everything,
these are my LE2 flow numbers for comparisson.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...51_17_full.jpg
I beleive his more recent work gets even better numbers.
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ET Performance is the culprit? Maybe they will chime in.
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Originally Posted by PunishedU
No he said he spent 11,000 on the motor, 2000 on the heads. Im sure the sponsor would not want you to say it but please tell us who so you can save someone else the money.
Look at his posts and you will find out real quick who it was. Personally I bought a set of their bare LSX heads and finished them out how I wanted them and had great results. But I also put together my own engine combo's.
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Hell no, ET Performance is fixing my heads!! The guys at ET are awesome, I would very highly recommend them to anybody. I paid 11000 to put 286 HP to the tires from the original builder. It put down 260 on basic boltons. This time around I should be putting around 500 to the tires, with about 7500 into the motor, either selling or scrapping almost the entire motor from the other company. Check out my past posts, youll figure out who it was.

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Cool! Glad they are taking care of you! Still curious who it was. Too lazy to search.
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haha, i dont want to get nailed for "sponsor bashing"
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Your not bashing if they screwed you over. Help us out before someone else makes the mistake of using them.



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