Street Racing & Kill Stories - <bUrP> Just ate my first evo!!

So there i was on the freeway, i look to my rear mirror and i see this evo mr with the spikes on the back roof (dont know if its stock, im guessing not because it had a fart can and racing stickers etc, you know, rice stuff) i turn hazard lights on and he knew it was on... he pulls up next to me and i stomp on it and he never caught up! i felt so sorry for him that i didnt want an easy kill! i barely see these cars so i made the most of it and waited for him to catch up. i coulda killed him easily but i wanted to keep it exciting and just purposely held as much as half a car length to a car length. he was trying so hard... and i was teasing him with shit eating grins! he never lead the way. it was so easy! i was super stoked! still am actually! you guys were right about how they suck on a roll... they really suck. he sucked so bad he just quit and drove like a grandma... oh and get this, my car mods? nothing... BONE STOCK! 100% BONE STOCK! :judge:

nice kill, do you lnow what type of evo was it

i'm not sure... i'm not too in touch with evos but, it was lightish blue, it had a little hood scoop, it had those spikes on the roof, it had an "MR" decal. let me know what model you think it is though... i wanna know if its like the lower or higher end of evos.

whats funny is when i asked about evos on this forum, you guys said i can beat them on a roll, i believed it, but i didnt know it was gonna be that EASY... it was a little too EASY... i felt embarrassed for him. my car is 100% bone stock a4 98 t/a straight from the factory w/ 54k on the clock and it is not a ws6 and no ram air... i want a functional ram air hood though.

The "little spikes on the roof" are stock. And yeah, they are fairly weak from a roll (compared to their 1/4 mile performance).

Good Kill. Now don't get cocky. :jest:

Good Kill....

don't let it get to your head, EVO's are no joke.

Also as far as the MR goes, i think the MR in recent years has been sort of a "stripper" model, and in future years will be a more powerful model, don't quote me on that.

Uhm.. the mr gives it away

The top of the line Evo is the MR, it has more hp and torque than the regular evo, it also has the shark fins on the rear.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=39&article_id=1254

Good Kill

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=39&article_id=1254



thats the one!

and thanks guys. im still stoked. but wanting more.

Good kill , +1 on not letting it get to your head , you might just get your @ss handed to you by one someday. Chalk up another one for Domestics haha

i know i know, just got a little too excited...

Nice Kill. But but do watch out for those EVO's. It was an easy kill now, but could be the other way around the next time you come across one.

But again, nice kill. EVO's are rare in my area. I've been seeing a few of them around the past couple of months though. :devil:

Where are these fast EVO's at? I read all about them but they're hard to come by, at least around here.

I've never had a chance to race one on the street yet, stock or otherwise.

I saw a EVO group, about 4 of them and I don't think any of them ran better than a 13.9, could have been that club's first night at the track though, lol.

I saw another one with all kinds of appearance mods doing 12.7's@112

Those are the only EVO's I've seen at the track around here.

I'm in San Diego. fast, luxury and nice cars is what Southern California is all about. and traffic... and the gas prices... $3.75 for premium... yep!

Where are these fast EVO's at? I read all about them but they're hard to come by, at least around here.

I've never had a chance to race one on the street yet, stock or otherwise.

I saw a EVO group, about 4 of them and I don't think any of them ran better than a 13.9, could have been that club's first night at the track though, lol.

I saw another one with all kinds of appearance mods doing 12.7's@112

Those are the only EVO's I've seen at the track around here.

These "super fast evos" that everyone always talks about seem to be more in their imagination that in reality.

They'd have you believe that every Evo out there looks stock and runs 11's. The reality is that for every 10 Evos you come accross about 1 will actually be fast and the other 9 will be relatively close to stock.

And from a roll, yes, they are a joke. Its a 235WHP 3300lb box on wheels, what else should you expect. Obviously anthing can change with mods, but thats true for any vehicle.

Nice kill.

the mr is top dog in the evo world. they have the same power, but a 6spd, better suspension, and they are lighter. my buddy has a full bolt on, with boost controler and HKS cams. his car is quick as f*ck right now, after his tune, and some meth, he is looking at low 12's to high 11's. good kill. i think i felt the same after my first race against a bolt mustang GT. good luck and watch out.

you guys were right about how they suck on a roll... they really suck. he sucked so bad he just quit and drove like a grandma... :judge:

You really hate evo's. LOL. American Muscle FTW :)

You really hate evo's. LOL. American Muscle FTW :)


well it's not that, i mean, they are such popular cars and all, and people keep talking about them etc. but, i really think they are over rated! just the way people talk about evos, they make it sound like it's THE FASTEST CAR in the world, and i thought it would be a challenge, but no... i easily easily easily dumped him like an ex girlfriend ...and yeah, i Guess i really do hate those cars... i don't know why ...and those impressas

it was probably a fairly stock untuned evo...and horrible driver...

i have a evo and they can be no joke...even from a roll...its not that hard to put down over 400awhp in these cars..

i have a 05 evo..i wish it was me instead of that MR cus you sure wouldnt have posted a kill story :jest:

my buddy has a cammed evo8 and its no joke

i have a 05 evo..i wish it was me instead of that MR cus you sure wouldnt have posted a kill story :jest:

if you say so, nostradamus. :burn:

it was probably a fairly stock untuned evo...and horrible driver...

i have a evo and they can be no joke...even from a roll...its not that hard to put down over 400awhp in these cars..

i have a 05 evo..i wish it was me instead of that MR cus you sure wouldnt have posted a kill story :jest:

Dude..what don't you understand about 300WHP > 235WHP??

Stock Evos are slow as piss from a roll, good driver or not.

What are you trying to prove?? Wow, your highly modded Evo can pull a stock F-Body. You want a fucking cookie?? Why don't you race a H/C LS1 so your evo can get destroyed like the little riceburner that it is.

lol...oh ive raced LS1...there werent much...also a v10...every car ive ran has had more hp then me...

i dont drive your typical civic with a loud can and wing and a APC sticker....but like i said dont cry about it that my riceburner would walk buslengths on you...

if you say so, nostradamus. :burn:


so you think you stock ls1 will beat a highly modded big turbo AWD car?LOL

lol...oh ive raced LS1...there werent much...also a v10...every car ive ran has had more hp then me...

Like I said, you're a retard.

You're racing a stock LS1 in your highly modified (thousands of dollars) Evo and claiming "they aren't much". Race an LS1 with the same amount fo money invested in mods as you put into your Evo. Your ricer will get destroyed.

i dont drive your typical civic with a loud can and wing and a APC sticker....but like i said dont cry about it that my riceburner would walk buslengths on you...

Oh, our bad. Its a freakin Mitsubishi with a fart can and a stupid wing. Big difference.

You won't walk buslenghts on shit. You are a typical riceboy, coming on here to brag about your POS and how you can beat every Domestic under the sun :gtfo:

lol..you crack me up really you do...


everytime you talk shit your own forum buddys tell you to STFU!so why dont you do it.

actually i have a race this wkend with a modded GTO and a highly modded WS6..

ill get the video,i just hope my camera mans neck can turn 180 degrees to the rear to get a shot of the ws6...lol

do you even have a ws6?many on here dont like you and tend to wonder,you have been banned like 5 times!

Race an LS1 with the same amount fo money invested in mods as you put into your Evo. Your ricer will get destroyed.


What a ridiculous argument. I suppose buying a new Z06 and bragging about how fast it is is pointless since it would lose to a Yugo with $15,000 invested in it. :eyes:

I'm going to guess what your response is going to consist of:

"stfu olny a mrono would bye a sti, go away u fucin ricer"

Everything he says is ridiculous... I don't know why people still bother to acknowledge that moron's existence.

AMEN!!go away onebadassws6!!your own forums dont like you!i have a "ricer" evo and i get more respect then you...LEARN TO STFU!

I feel pretty confident that THE DESTROYERS Evo would give your random H/C fbody a loss..

my Viper weighs 3380 pounds from the factory and has 440/482 rwhp SAE and he can stay pretty much right beside me from 50-150 mph...

Most h/C fbodies are right around 400 rwhp and 3450 pounds...So id honestly put my money on him..

BUT THATS NOT THE NORM.....MOST EVO'S ARE PRETTY SLOW ON A ROLL IMHO..JUST NOT HIS

BTW DESTROYER..Do you have weight reduction..Your car seems to fast for only having 425 awhp

What a ridiculous argument. I suppose buying a new Z06 and bragging about how fast it is is pointless since it would lose to a Yugo with $15,000 invested in it. :eyes:

I'm going to guess what your response is going to consist of:

"stfu olny a mrono would bye a sti, go away u fucin ricer"



Yea that was pretty dumb....Besides an Evo with the same amount of money dumped into it would probaly still be quicker through the 1/4 mile than the fbody due to awd while the fbody would probaly be faster on the freeway

lol thanks bro...and no weight reduction...FULL INTERIOR!

well i dynoed at 418awhp on low boost and a horrible burnt slipping stock clutch..

now with new clutch,resurfaced flywheel and new 2.5in upper piping going in fri.its probably got more..

hopefully see you saturday..i got a really bad boost leak and cant seem to find it anywhere...all my lines are connected etc...ill let you know

Nice kill, but like others have said don't get to cocky, the EVO driver probably sucked balls or just wasn't used to his car. Roll racing is not AWD cars strong point but still, he should have given you a better race than that: even though he has less whp he weighs much less.

lol..you crack me up really you do...


everytime you talk shit your own forum buddys tell you to STFU!so why dont you do it.

actually i have a race this wkend with a modded GTO and a highly modded WS6..

ill get the video,i just hope my camera mans neck can turn 180 degrees to the rear to get a shot of the ws6...lol

do you even have a ws6?many on here dont like you and tend to wonder,you have been banned like 5 times!

Wow, you are one cocky bastard.

I hope you get ruined by both cars and then your shitty 4G63 blows into pieces all over the road. Or your transfer case, or your transmission, or any of the other shitty parts that Mitsubishi used on that car.

One less POS ricer in the road is always a good thing.

lol thanks bro...and no weight reduction...FULL INTERIOR!

well i dynoed at 418awhp on low boost and a horrible burnt slipping stock clutch..

now with new clutch,resurfaced flywheel and new 2.5in upper piping going in fri.its probably got more..

hopefully see you saturday..i got a really bad boost leak and cant seem to find it anywhere...all my lines are connected etc...ill let you know

Ricers ALWAYS have an excuse as to why they dyno'd lower than they should have, or ran a lower time than they should have.

You can never just say straight up numbers, theres always some bullshit excuse, "my MIVEC wasn't MIVECING, I was low on boost, it was a hot day, my clutch was slipping, I had a boost leak, ect".

Yet you think you really have room to talk shit with 418WHP?? :gtfo:

Nice kill, but like others have said don't get to cocky, the EVO driver probably sucked balls or just wasn't used to his car. Roll racing is not AWD cars strong point but still, he should have given you a better race than that: even though he has less whp he weighs much less.

Since when is ~150lbs "much less"??

Thats hardly anything.

And anyone who sucks at driving from a roll shouldn't be driving in the first place. Then again, we are talking about evo drivers...

Wow, you are one cocky bastard.

I hope you get ruined by both cars and then your shitty 4G63 blows into pieces all over the road. Or your transfer case, or your transmission, or any of the other shitty parts that Mitsubishi used on that car.

One less POS ricer in the road is always a good thing.


Wow man...I would wish cancer and slow death upon a lot of people I don't like. But I wouldn't wish a catastrophic engine failure on anybody. Why are you such a fu*k stick?

jesus, Mr badass you sure know how to ruin a thread with all your bullshit shit talking.
just shut the fuck up already nobody cares what the fuck u have to say
YOU ARE A FUCKING LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :barf:
PLEASE SOMEBODY BAN THIS FUCKING ASSHOLE AGAIN :judge:

Wow man...I would wish cancer and slow death upon a lot of people I don't like. But I wouldn't wish a catastrophic engine failure on anybody. Why are you such a fu*k stick?

The guy is s total asshole. All he does is troll Muscle car forums to brag about his shitty riceburner.

The author of this thread can't even post a kill story without some stupid ricer (destroyer) coming in to say "well if this was different or that was differenty"...shut the fuck up retard, nobody cares.

I know plenty of people with Evos, and they are pieces of shit, just like every other mitsubishi product ever made. Zero respect from me, any car can be made fast with mods, the Evo is nothing special. I'd rather mod a car that doesn't look like a riced up box on wheels and sound like total asshole, maybe thats just me.

It is just you, and let him troll if he likes. It's a free country and Mitsu or not, it's a bad ass car. Why don't you race him instead of running your trap? At the moment, we are just adding to the hijack of this thread.

It is just you, and let him troll if he likes. It's a free country and Mitsu or not, it's a bad ass car. Why don't you race him instead of running your trap? At the moment, we are just adding to the hijack of this thread.

So we should just let all the import trolls infest the site like a disease and ruin it?? How is that a good idea at all?? Just ban them, problem eliminated.

Why should I race him?? Whats that going to prove?? Whether I win or lose, he's still driving a piece of shit mitsubishi ricer, and I'm still driving a muscle car. Even if he is faster, he can sit there and wig out with his sideways hat revving his fartcan in front of his friends, and I'll just shake my head and walk away, because he is a waste of life.

Most h/C fbodies are right around 400 rwhp and 3450 pounds...So id honestly put my money on him..
.....

I usually dont concider it a race unless you sound the horn 3 times because just flooring it without a warning always give you the advantage

So there i was on the freeway, i look to my rear mirror and i see this evo mr with the spikes on the back roof (dont know if its stock, im guessing not because it had a fart can and racing stickers etc, you know, rice stuff) i turn hazard lights on and he knew it was on... he pulls up next to me and i stomp on it and he never caught up! i felt so sorry for him that i didnt want an easy kill! i barely see these cars so i made the most of it and waited for him to catch up. i coulda killed him easily but i wanted to keep it exciting and just purposely held as much as half a car length to a car length. he was trying so hard... and i was teasing him with shit eating grins! he never lead the way. it was so easy! i was super stoked! still am actually! you guys were right about how they suck on a roll... they really suck. he sucked so bad he just quit and drove like a grandma... oh and get this, my car mods? nothing... BONE STOCK! 100% BONE STOCK! :judge:

Stock Evo's are a joke from a roll, with a few mods they can hold their own really well from a roll.

If you ever want to run a quicker evo come up to temecula/riverside sometime.... :devil:

Oh and come back to the western section we miss you.....lol..... :judge:

So we should just let all the import trolls infest the site like a disease and ruin it?? How is that a good idea at all?? Just ban them, problem eliminated.

No you just act like an adult and move on. It is funny watching you post your repetative bullshit over and over again. We get it you don't like imports, but do you think you are changing anything? Do you think that because you act like a child having a hissy fit that anyone is going to leave? You have already been banned 4-5 times and yet you come back to do the same shit. You are like a heart broken highschool girl that can't accept that fact that Bobby doesn't like her anymore. It was nice and calm around here when YOU were banned even with all the "ricer trolls". Get a clue.

Why should I race him?? Whats that going to prove?? Whether I win or lose, he's still driving a piece of shit mitsubishi ricer, and I'm still driving a muscle car. Even if he is faster, he can sit there and wig out with his sideways hat revving his fartcan in front of his friends, and I'll just shake my head and walk away, because he is a waste of life.

Wow more original material from you. I am sure eveyone here thinks you are so cool. :eyes:

EDIT:
Oh and I will reply for you.

Stupid ricer.
I hope you die you are waste of life.
:gtfo:
I drive a muscle car look at me.
Mitsu's break

Ricers ALWAYS have an excuse as to why they dyno'd lower than they should have, or ran a lower time than they should have.

You can never just say straight up numbers, theres always some bullshit excuse, "my MIVEC wasn't MIVECING, I was low on boost, it was a hot day, my clutch was slipping, I had a boost leak, ect".

Yet you think you really have room to talk shit with 418WHP?? :gtfo:

lol man you have a lot of friends man...like i said NO ONE LIKES YOUR fAGET ASS!

my 418awhp is probably a lot more then you...stock block,stock head,stock intake manifold,tranny,tcase,stock ignition..i still have a lot to go...i wish i wasnt on a island cus i would seriously drive to show you what a "rice" burner can really do..

id probably see you in a evo 2days later..

so if a "ricer" beat you then you would just look at him and shake your head?you make no sense!!you got you ass handed to you by a ricer long time ago,get over it...

a REAL car enthusiast woud go up to any car that just beat him and be interested it what he had done....BAN HIM NOW!!!

why dont you post pics of your ws6 and dyno sheet?

oh and i dont have MIVEC!!!

for you to know about mivec you must know about evos or did a research bc the mivec only came out in 2006 and since your a muscle head ricer hater you shouldnt know that...

and 418awhp for my boost level,and stock clutch and all the other stock shit i have is pretty good..its more then you,lol...and my trap speeds on the shitty nite i had and shitty hawaii track proves/shows what my car is really capable of..

so listen to everyone and just LEAVE already..

dont hate a "ricer"b/c they have more power or faster then you...appreciate a fast car when its a fast car faget

These "super fast evos" that everyone always talks about seem to be more in their imagination that in reality.

They'd have you believe that every Evo out there looks stock and runs 11's. The reality is that for every 10 Evos you come accross about 1 will actually be fast and the other 9 will be relatively close to stock.

And from a roll, yes, they are a joke. Its a 235WHP 3300lb box on wheels, what else should you expect. Obviously anthing can change with mods, but thats true for any vehicle.

Nice kill.

I totally disagree with this, if anything its the other way around, no one leaves Evo's stock.. put 2 g's inot them and they can do some serious damage,

also for whoever asked where these fast evo's are, I live in MD right by AMS, and there is a huge evo/sti scene here... these cars a are no joke and take very well to mods...

OP good kill man, just dont sleep on them :chug:

race an evo from a dig, stock for stock, then run another one, mod for mod. and like someone else mentioned, it's not exactly racing when you just floor it and say, "hahaha i stomped him!"
:wrist:

EVOs have my total respect. I would have bought one in a heartbeat if I had the money. They respond great to mods and it's very easy to put one into the 11's. You can run your mouth all day about how much crap a foriegn car is. bottom line almost all cars have flaws....our cars came with 10 bolts...not to mention the wonderful idea that was optispark. Take 30 k and go buy a new car with a warranty that will perform like an evo or STi on a road track, and be a great daily driver. 1/4 mile may not be an evo's strongest point from the factory but as for handling they are amazing. Not everybody wants just a car that can go in a straight line really fast...I'm not trying to bash anybody's F-body I own one too and i love it. Just making points.

ONEBADASSWS6 (AKA:Domestic Demon, 98BanditWS6, etc etc) are you the one who pissed about my car yet claimed to only run a 12.7 in the 1320? :jest:

Do you really think you have a right to call a 418awhp car a slow? :eyes:

My car runs 12.7@110MPH. It ran a 13.2 bone stock.

oh and i dont have MIVEC!!!

for you to know about mivec you must know about evos or did a research bc the mivec only came out in 2006 and since your a muscle head ricer hater you shouldnt know that...

and 418awhp for my boost level,and stock clutch and all the other stock shit i have is pretty good..its more then you,lol...and my trap speeds on the shitty nite i had and shitty hawaii track proves/shows what my car is really capable of..

so listen to everyone and just LEAVE already..

dont hate a "ricer"b/c they have more power or faster then you...appreciate a fast car when its a fast car faget

Way to spell "faggot" wrong, you fucking idiot. Its pretty obvious that you are low on intelligence. I decucted that when I saw that you drive an evo, thats a given :jest:

Wow, you don't have MIVEC. Way to point that out, as if anyone really cares. Doesn't change the fact that your motor is a 2.0 POS that sounds like a weedeater.

Once again with the ricer excuses "shity nite with a shitty track blah blah blah" - shut the fuck up. You ran what you ran, bitching an moaning doesn't change that.

Wow, you are one cocky bastard.



Pot, meet kettle.

Way to spell "faggot" wrong, you fucking idiot. Its pretty obvious that you are low on intelligence. I decucted that when I saw that you drive an evo, thats a given :jest:

Wow, you don't have MIVEC. Way to point that out, as if anyone really cares. Doesn't change the fact that your motor is a 2.0 POS that sounds like a weedeater.

Once again with the ricer excuses "shity nite with a shitty track blah blah blah" - shut the fuck up. You ran what you ran, bitching an moaning doesn't change that.
If you don't have a faster car than him (which you don't) you are not allowed to talk shit :gtfo:

I totally disagree with this, if anything its the other way around, no one leaves Evo's stock.. put 2 g's inot them and they can do some serious damage,

also for whoever asked where these fast evo's are, I live in MD right by AMS, and there is a huge evo/sti scene here... these cars a are no joke and take very well to mods...

OP good kill man, just dont sleep on them :chug:

I guess thats why ever Evo I've ever ran into was either bone stock or only had a couple bolt ons. You are totally exaggerating.

Most people don't have a few grand to dump into a car when they are already making payments in a 35K car as it is. Not only that, but most are people's primary cars, so modding the hel out of it, killing your fuel economy, and braking drivetrain parts aren't exactly things they would like to do.

I love how everyone always talks about AMS like they are the greatest thing ever, what a joke. Ever hear of Evolution performance?? No, not faggot ass Mitsubishi Evolution, just plain Evolution. They have a new GT500 running 9's with intake, headers, exhaust, 75 shot, and a pulley.

Thats a real car, not some POS ricer with a turbo stuck under the hood.

If you don't have a faster car than him (which you don't) you are not allowed to talk shit :gtfo:

Yet you have room to talk shit with a 267HP Mustang?? :gtfo:

And you have...? And in case you haven't noticed, I don't talk shit about other people's cars :)

You ran what you ran, bitching an moaning doesn't change that.

and you acting like a fucking child doesn't either, yet you continue.

All the things that you hate "ricers" for doing is the same exact shit you do here every day.

I usually dont concider it a race unless you sound the horn 3 times because just flooring it without a warning always give you the advantage


i gave signalS. i looked back with my head out the window, i waved, i flashed my hazard lights a couple of times, he zoomed next to me ( he knew what i wanted) and he began to start without giving me any warning. then i started. i lead. i was never behind. then when he slowed down and quit i got next to him again and honked 3 times. but he just gave up... :chug:

race an evo from a dig, stock for stock, then run another one, mod for mod. and like someone else mentioned, it's not exactly racing when you just floor it and say, "hahaha i stomped him!"
:wrist:

i signaled a lot as mentioned above. it was clear to him what i wanted. he wanted it too. he stomped first. then i stomped. it was very clear to me that he was racing. i could see it and i could hear it. i was excited. surprisingly (not to sound ignorant or whatever) but when he stomped i was like, are you kidding me? he was really unimpressive... sorry to sound like an ass or cocky or whatever, but i've never taken on an evo before and from what i hear etc. evo made quite a name for itself. so i was truly surprised with its performance on the free way... peace

oh and i dont have MIVEC!!!

for you to know about mivec you must know about evos or did a research bc the mivec only came out in 2006 and since your a muscle head ricer hater you shouldnt know that...

and 418awhp for my boost level,and stock clutch and all the other stock shit i have is pretty good..its more then you,lol...and my trap speeds on the shitty nite i had and shitty hawaii track proves/shows what my car is really capable of..

so listen to everyone and just LEAVE already..

dont hate a "ricer"b/c they have more power or faster then you...appreciate a fast car when its a fast car faget


I'm going to have to call BS on you....

So you have "ALL OTHER STOCK SHIT" and "boost level" and you are making 418whp?

My car is dialed in with full boltons, stock turbo and alot of boost and i'm making 395/387, how is it that you are 20more whp than me, with moderate boost unless you are running a 20g/50trim/30r?

post up the mods and a dyno sheet and i'll believe you.

so what are you trapping? I run the 1/8 in 7.34 @100mph

I'm going to have to call BS on you....

So you have "ALL OTHER STOCK SHIT" and "boost level" and you are making 418whp?

My car is dialed in with full boltons, stock turbo and alot of boost and i'm making 395/387, how is it that you are 20more whp than me, with moderate boost unless you are running a 20g/50trim/30r?

post up the mods and a dyno sheet and i'll believe you.

so what are you trapping? I run the 1/8 in 7.34 @100mph

Please tell me your runnin nitrous or Im going to have to call BS on your 100mph 1/8th trap. :jest:

BTW the Mr is not the top dog in the Evo line-up when it comes to straight line performance, its actually the slowest. The 6-speed actually hurts it because it has to shift to 4th and 5th gears so low its top-end sux.

Please tell me your runnin nitrous or Im going to have to call BS on your 100mph 1/8th trap. :jest:

BTW the Mr is not the top dog in the Evo line-up when it comes to straight line performance, its actually the slowest. The 6-speed actually hurts it because it has to shift to 4th and 5th gears so low its top-end sux.

Nope.....lol

I have the time slips to prove it :devil:

what 418awhp is reachable with a bigger turbo and low boost??

man you know your evos dont you!!!

my head,block,intake manifold,igntion,tranny,tcase,upper piping,springs retainers, are all stock!!

only time i took to tracks was on stock clutch with no launch and pump 92 octane with 22 psi and it traps 123mph...just think if i had a clutch at the time and could launch at 5k or more...


oh and i was on race map but pump gas and pump boost


and i dont believe your 398 on stock turbo...that would be a record!!unless you have meth..then i cal BULLSHIT

Nope.....lol

I have the time slips to prove it :devil:

Still going to have a hard time believing it with only 398whp. What is your 1/4 time and weight reduction? Im only trapping 92mph in the 1/8th with a 7.4 E.T.

what 418awhp is reachable with a bigger turbo and low boost??

man you know your evos dont you!!!

my head,block,intake manifold,igntion,tranny,tcase,upper piping,springs retainers, are all stock!!

only time i took to tracks was on stock clutch with no launch and pump 92 octane with 22 psi and it traps 123mph...just think if i had a clutch at the time and could launch at 5k or more...


oh and i was on race map but pump gas and pump boost


and i dont believe your 398 on stock turbo...that would be a record!!unless you have meth..then i cal BULLSHIT

So what turbo are you running?

what 418awhp is reachable with a bigger turbo and low boost??

man you know your evos dont you!!!

my head,block,intake manifold,igntion,tranny,tcase,upper piping,springs retainers, are all stock!!

only time i took to tracks was on stock clutch with no launch and pump 92 octane with 22 psi and it traps 123mph...just think if i had a clutch at the time and could launch at 5k or more...


oh and i was on race map but pump gas and pump boost


and i dont believe your 398 on stock turbo...that would be a record!!unless you have meth..then i cal BULLSHIT


http://www.socalevo.net/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=36&topic=23175.0

here you go.... this was almost a year ago.... lots more tunning since then.

btw i've been through the whole eve thing, RPS twin carbon clutch, Buschur race FMIC, Aem EMS, 37r, c16, meth, full drag suspension, full hard pipes.... you name it is was on the car.

AMS GT35R,mild tuned for 21psi...1000cc inj,fuel pump,hks 272cams,ams licp,greddy intercooler,buschur uicp(on its way as we speak,AEM EMS 30-1313U 5 bar map,wideband and uego built in,head studs,ams dp,rsr exhaust,tial bov,ext dump wg

mild tune b/c its my daily driver..im tuned for 21-22 psi 92 octane and mad 418awhp with stock slipping clutch..since then i added a clutch and friday the buschur uicp comes in

also 28psi(can do 30,but like i said daily driver) for 117 octane...

123mph on no launching,pump gas,low low boost for a 35R and a horrible horrible hawaii track..im very happy

ok thats on RACE GAS!!110octane....do straight pump gas dyno and wont be anywhere near that...also why do you have it for 30psi and drop to 23!!!

AMS GT35R,mild tuned for 21psi...1000cc inj,fuel pump,hks 272cams,ams licp,greddy intercooler,buschur uicp(on its way as we speak,AEM EMS 30-1313U 5 bar map,wideband and uego built in,head studs,ams dp,rsr exhaust,tial bov,ext dump wg

mild tune b/c its my daily driver..im tuned for 21-22 psi 92 octane and mad 418awhp with stock slipping clutch..since then i added a clutch and friday the buschur uicp comes in

also 28psi(can do 30,but like i said daily driver) for 117 octane...

123mph on no launching,pump gas,low low boost for a 35R and a horrible horrible hawaii track..im very happy


Nice!

ok thats on RACE GAS!!110octane....do straight pump gas dyno and wont be anywhere near that...also why do you have it for 30psi and drop to 23!!!

because the stock turbo can't support the airflow needed to hold 30psi at redline.

I run dual m10 meth nozzles on the street. on the 37r i was running 32psi daily making just shy of 600whp on a stock shortblock

thanks...you think 21-22 psi and a 35R is good?i do and ive been told it...i just have a lot of haters in hawaii saying thats junk...lol...but with clutch and uicp what you think i can add to it??

my stock clutch was freaking plain!!nothing was on it at all...is was pretty bad

http://www.socalevo.net/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=36&topic=23175.0

here you go.... this was almost a year ago.... lots more tunning since then.

btw i've been through the whole eve thing, RPS twin carbon clutch, Buschur race FMIC, Aem EMS, 37r, c16, meth, full drag suspension, full hard pipes.... you name it is was on the car.
So do you have any 1/4 times and traps?

because the stock turbo can't support the airflow needed to hold 30psi at redline.

I run dual m10 meth nozzles on the street. on the 37r i was running 32psi daily making just shy of 600whp on a stock shortblock

what happened to the 37R?

So do you have any 1/4 times and traps?

never got it to the 1/4 track, we only have Cali speedway that open every 6 weeks or so and is limited to 400 cars (most civic) not worth waiting 8 hours for 3 runs.

we have 4 local 1/8 tracks though... just stuck to those most of the time

what happened to the 37R?

got boring......

have a much bigger turbo build in the process,

I'm known as noogles on evoM, i know as much about tunning the evo pcm's as AL, AMS, Or Buschur.... I'm on the Development team for ECU flash :)

yeah im working on built 2.0l..ams vsr intake mani,more fuel,head,springs,retainers,shep/buschur bushwacker tranny,shep tcase,and 37R..

AL dont know shit...that guys is a turd!horible customer service,and i heard that he doesnt tune his own car,thats why i didnt have him retune mine when hes here...

didnt hear anything good about him

yeah im working on built 2.0l..ams vsr intake mani,more fuel,head,springs,retainers,shep/buschur bushwacker tranny,shep tcase,and 37R..

only trans worth the money is the MAGNUS or Shep Dog Box, every other one will break...... if the synchro's survive you'll start cracking gears or breaking main shafts.

i was launching my car at 7500rpm and shifting at 8700 on stock head and shortblock.

My motor still pulls 140's on compression test and has 0 blow by.

AL dont know shit...that guys is a turd!horible customer service,and i heard that he doesnt tune his own car,thats why i didnt have him retune mine when hes here...

didnt hear anything good about him

he doesn't tune his own car becasue he run's a AEM, Buschur is 100 times better with the aem than AL, personally i wouldnt let him touch anything of mine, but for the general public he's ok.

haahhahaha true story on AL..

anyways if i can afford a dog box tranny i would but $9000 is nuts

haahhahaha true story on AL..

anyways if i can afford a dog box tranny i would but $9000 is nuts

MAGNUS box is only 5500, better than having to buy rebuild at 2k and blowing a shaft and having to buy a new mitsu trans at 3500, Getrag doesn't sell replacement gears or shafts, you need an new trans or buy a parts trans from a wrecked evo..... thats one of the reasons i got out of the evo racing scene.

:hijack:

Is it really neccesary to take this thing about 8 mles from where it was?

OP, nice kill. I would say dont underestimate them, but I guess thats been covered :eyes:

I dont get why every other thread in here these days is either someone ranting for or against Evos for 5 pages.

I know Evo's arent the best from a roll, but I highly doubt you were able to just play with his ass. My buddy is on his third Evo (Highly modded 03, a stock 06 MR, and a decently modded 06 MR currently) so I know about how they run. I know that with nothing more than a turboback exhaust, an intake, a boost controller and a tune he stays right with me when I am with O/R Mids, catback, and a diablosport all the way up to 140.

One of my good friends has a Evo 8 w/ a Turbo Swap, pretty damn fast, he makes around 440whp. As far as Evo 9's go, with bolt on's I've heard they are very responsive. Got to give them props for there potential, would'nt exacty classify them as ricers. Just my personal opinion. Not saying I would buy one but I give it credit where credit is due.

Whats with these people thinking "MR" EVOs are better than others? They are not. In fact, they are usually slower. They have the same exact power as all other EVOs.

BTW to the original thread poster... they did not make blue EVO MRs.

the MR is not always the faster one...only thing different is bilstein shocks,VG,BBS wheels,and other minor things i believe..

if anything the RS is probably faster it being the lighter of all 3 models...aluminum roof(i believe),no p/w,no p/l,no radio,no trunk liner etc...

and MRs only came in white,GG,black and red i believe...the MR is overated.

Whats with these people thinking "MR" EVOs are better than others? They are not. In fact, they are usually slower. They have the same exact power as all other EVOs.

BTW to the original thread poster... they did not make blue EVO MRs.


believe it or not but i am colorblind. it was a light shade though. not dark or true blue.

What Do You Drive?

98 trans am bone stock. looks like it just rolled from the factory

These "super fast evos" that everyone always talks about seem to be more in their imagination that in reality.

They'd have you believe that every Evo out there looks stock and runs 11's. The reality is that for every 10 Evos you come accross about 1 will actually be fast and the other 9 will be relatively close to stock.

And from a roll, yes, they are a joke. Its a 235WHP 3300lb box on wheels, what else should you expect. Obviously anthing can change with mods, but thats true for any vehicle.

Nice kill.


This is true. I see maybe 1 lancer every say 200 cars i see on the road.

so maybe 1 EVO every 1500 cars. and they usually look completely stock to me.


just as observation in the easy valley. Not trying to imply it's not a nice car.

This is true. I see maybe 1 lancer every say 200 cars i see on the road.

so maybe 1 EVO every 1500 cars. and they usually look completely stock to me.


just as observation in the easy valley. Not trying to imply it's not a nice car.

well looks aren't everything,looking stock really has nothing to do with the car being modded under the hood
Also don't get pulled into mr badassws6's logic,I really doubt he did a study of how many Evo's or any other car are fast out of 10....... :eyes:
or maybe he did :eek2: he seems to know everything maybe he does do scientific studies :jest: :chug:

he seems to know everything maybe he does do scientific studies :jest: :chug:

If he's doing any kind of scientific studies they have nothing to do with cars! :jest:

I know Evo's arent the best from a roll, but I highly doubt you were able to just play with his ass. My buddy is on his third Evo (Highly modded 03, a stock 06 MR, and a decently modded 06 MR currently) so I know about how they run. I know that with nothing more than a turboback exhaust, an intake, a boost controller and a tune he stays right with me when I am with O/R Mids, catback, and a diablosport all the way up to 140.

i did play his ass! easily! thats why i'm so surprised with the evos performance...

i did play his ass! easily! thats why i'm so surprised with the evos performance...


Dude a 98 TA isnt that fast, and if you "played" something easily, maybe it wasnt an EVO. Where are you from BTW

good kill viper! That fool must not have know how to drive. The key to making an evo a good roll racing machine is to build boost with some heel/toe footwork. I could eaisly build up 28lbs @ 3200rpms with my stock turbo 04 evo. As soon as you get off the brake (in second gear) it would give you a serious push.

These "super fast evos" that everyone always talks about seem to be more in their imagination that in reality.

They'd have you believe that every Evo out there looks stock and runs 11's. The reality is that for every 10 Evos you come accross about 1 will actually be fast and the other 9 will be relatively close to stock.

And from a roll, yes, they are a joke. Its a 235WHP 3300lb box on wheels, what else should you expect. Obviously anthing can change with mods, but thats true for any vehicle.

Nice kill.
I came across TWO Evos Friday night that both ran 10s at 130 and 131. They do exist. Would have handed MY ass to me for sure...

Sorry you are mistaken, an LS1 is an LS1 please do your research, Mine dyno within 3 hp of my buddies 1999 and 4 hp to my buddies 2000. I raced a friends bone stock 2004 EVO from a slow roll when I was bone stock and had him by 2 lengths to 90 mph and 1 1/2 lengths from a dig to about 115 or so. I love how people say ls1's aren't fast. Sure a modded EVO can beat a stock LS1 but so can a modded civic. But stock for stock they are very similar with an EVO having the advantage from a dig and an LS1 from a roll. Bottom line I spent 7500.00 on my Formula and my Buddy spent over 30k. I won!!! I'll take the Formula thanks. Don't get me wrong I like the EVO but SOME of the people driving them are goofs.


Dude a 98 TA isnt that fast, and if you "played" something easily, maybe it wasnt an EVO. Where are you from BTW

Sorry you are mistaken, an LS1 is an LS1 please do your research, Mine dyno within 3 hp of my buddies 1999 and 4 hp to my buddies 2000. I raced a friends bone stock 2004 EVO from a slow roll when I was bone stock and had him by 2 lengths to 90 mph and 1 1/2 lengths from a dig to about 115 or so. I love how people say ls1's aren't fast. Sure a modded EVO can beat a stock LS1 but so can a modded civic. But stock for stock they are very similar with an EVO having the advantage from a dig and an LS1 from a roll. Bottom line I spent 7500.00 on my Formula and my Buddy spent over 30k. I won!!! I'll take the Formula thanks. Don't get me wrong I like the EVO but SOME of the people driving them are goofs.

True, but what people dont realize is theres alot of difference in Evo model years. Its like comparing a auto LT1 to a M6 LS1. Theres almost a full second difference in the 1/4 and 5-6mph in the traps between a '03-'04 Evo and a new '06 model. A 2004 Evo would be the slowest of the models we have over here.

True but I have the 2.73's in the rear which are the slowest LS1 available.

Sorry you are mistaken, an LS1 is an LS1 please do your research, Mine dyno within 3 hp of my buddies 1999 and 4 hp to my buddies 2000. I raced a friends bone stock 2004 EVO from a slow roll when I was bone stock and had him by 2 lengths to 90 mph and 1 1/2 lengths from a dig to about 115 or so. I love how people say ls1's aren't fast. Sure a modded EVO can beat a stock LS1 but so can a modded civic. But stock for stock they are very similar with an EVO having the advantage from a dig and an LS1 from a roll. Bottom line I spent 7500.00 on my Formula and my Buddy spent over 30k. I won!!! I'll take the Formula thanks. Don't get me wrong I like the EVO but SOME of the people driving them are goofs.



To bad he was saying pretty much exactly what you just did. He said that is unlikely that a stock LS1 is going to buslength an Evo the way he claims if both drivers are actually racing. And he is right and you said so ^. A couple lengths is accurate. 10 cars is not. And thats what he said.

Edit: And he did not say anything about 98s being much slower than 2000s either. He said 98 because thats the OP's car that supposedly buslengths Evos in stock form.

True, but what people dont realize is theres alot of difference in Evo model years. Its like comparing a auto LT1 to a M6 LS1. Theres almost a full second difference in the 1/4 and 5-6mph in the traps between a '03-'04 Evo and a new '06 model. A 2004 Evo would be the slowest of the models we have over here.

arent the 03's the slowest with the 9.8hs?and then 04 came with the 10.5?

To bad he was saying pretty much exactly what you just did. He said that is unlikely that a stock LS1 is going to buslength an Evo the way he claims if both drivers are actually racing. And he is right and you said so ^. A couple lengths is accurate. 10 cars is not. And thats what he said.

Edit: And he did not say anything about 98s being much slower than 2000s either. He said 98 because thats the OP's car that supposedly buslengths Evos in stock form.

A stock LS1 vs. a stock Evo from anything other than a dig is going to be more than a "couple car lenghts". We're talking 235WHP (Evo VIII) - 250WHP (Evo 9) vs. 290WHP -300WHP LS1. Plus the LS1 never falls off the powerband and doesn't have turbo lag between shifts.

A stock LS1 vs. a stock Evo from anything other than a dig is going to be more than a "couple car lenghts". We're talking 235WHP (Evo VIII) - 250WHP (Evo 9) vs. 290WHP -300WHP LS1. Plus the LS1 never falls off the powerband and doesn't have turbo lag between shifts.


i wouldnt go as far as saying a "couple car lenghts" now the VIII im not sure what id dynos at,never dynoed mine stock.i know the IX have dynoed about 263awhp stock(at least here in hawaii)

and a evo will have lag but with stock turbo it starts to spool fairly quick.i dont think a stock LS1 with get a couple car lenghts on it..

actually i believe i know a stock ls1 and a stock evo...maybe we can do the test for you guys

arent the 03's the slowest with the 9.8hs?and then 04 came with the 10.5?

The '04 also came with the 9.8 and the open front diff.

We're talking 235WHP (Evo VIII) - 250WHP (Evo 9) vs. 290WHP -300WHP LS1. Plus the LS1 never falls off the powerband and doesn't have turbo lag between shifts.

You also talking 200 extra pounds the LS1 car is carrying. Pretty much a driver's race.

A stock LS1 vs. a stock Evo from anything other than a dig is going to be more than a "couple car lenghts". We're talking 235WHP (Evo VIII) - 250WHP (Evo 9) vs. 290WHP -300WHP LS1. Plus the LS1 never falls off the powerband and doesn't have turbo lag between shifts.

There is no "turbo lag" between shifts. Also gearing plays a huge role, Evo's have 4.59 gears in them which mated to a high redline equals a car that pulls alot harder then alot of cars with more hp. Also have to take into consideration weight.

Bottom line I spent 7500.00 on my Formula and my Buddy spent over 30k. I won!!! I'll take the Formula thanks. Don't get me wrong I like the EVO but SOME of the people driving them are goofs.

I'm sorry, but that doesnt add up. Anyone who sinks 30k into an EVO and isnt running 10s (or faster) is either channeling the spirit of Helen Keller or has never actually driven the car.

Thats alot of money to sink into ANY car with a turbo and not run single digits.

actually i believe i know a stock ls1 and a stock evo...maybe we can do the test for you guys

Please :)

I'm sorry, but that doesnt add up. Anyone who sinks 30k into an EVO and isnt running 10s (or faster) is either channeling the spirit of Helen Keller or has never actually driven the car.

Thats alot of money to sink into ANY car with a turbo and not run single digits.
Maybe he means on the cars themselves, or the cars+mods. Either way it looks like a used car value is being compared to a new car value. Or maybe just what you said, lol.

i will see about getting the ls1vsevo stock for stock...


and 30K dump in a evo would kill! even if he missed gears he would still win..i think you mean maybe 25k for a used evo and 5k in parts....but a 30k modded evo is death...that would be a 37R or bigger,fully drivetrain,built motor...everything.

i will see about getting the ls1vsevo stock for stock...


and 30K dump in a evo would kill! even if he missed gears he would still win..i think you mean maybe 25k for a used evo and 5k in parts....but a 30k modded evo is death...that would be a 37R or bigger,fully drivetrain,built motor...everything.

Even $5k in an Evo would be mid 11's at 115+mph, depending on model.

Dude a 98 TA isnt that fast, and if you "played" something easily, maybe it wasnt an EVO. Where are you from BTW

well it happened. and it was an evo. san diego. lotsa fast cars cruisin here all the time.

There is no "turbo lag" between shifts. Also gearing plays a huge role, Evo's have 4.59 gears in them which mated to a high redline equals a car that pulls alot harder then alot of cars with more hp. Also have to take into consideration weight.

So the turbo magically stays in full boost between shifts.

Why make shit up?? You lose boost between shifts, simple as that :eyes:

Dude a 98 TA isnt that fast, and if you "played" something easily, maybe it wasnt an EVO. Where are you from BTW

Yo B LS1's ain't that fast dawg, I see stock 235WHP Evos kill them shits all da time.

You really are a moron. And a ricer to a T.

A stock LS1 will slaughter a stock Evo from a roll. I've seen it happen. I've done it. I don't need your ricer ass telling me about "how sick evos are dawg" :eyes:

well it happened. and it was an evo. san diego. lotsa fast cars cruisin here all the time.

Just ignore that ricer fag.

He's bent out of shape because he thinks Evos are as fast as LS1's stock for stock. He's in his own little riceboy world.

A place where Evos look good, sound good, and can't be beat by anything :jest:

^^haha...

and i think a stock for stock a evo will win from a dig and a roll..ill try and set up that race...

^^haha...

and i think a stock for stock a evo will win from a dig and a roll..ill try and set up that race...

You honestly thing a stock Evo will take a stock M6 LS1 from a roll??

We're talking about a 50WHP difference, and 165lbs.

3450lbs - 3285lbs = 165lbs

Plus the LS1 has the much better powerband and better top end power.

From a dig it would be close, because the Evo can launch harder. But from a roll, it shouldn't even be a race.

Maybe he means on the cars themselves, or the cars+mods. Either way it looks like a used car value is being compared to a new car value. Or maybe just what you said, lol.

This would make more sense. I dont see a stock evo beating a stock LS1. They're rally cars people, not drag cars. Modded all bets are off, but stock the EVO is an excellent corner cutter, and I'd put money on a stock EVO assraping a stock Fbod around a track with all things being equal. Its like dogfighting in WWII - you dont play to your opponent's strengths.

*shrug*

So the turbo magically stays in full boost between shifts.

Why make shit up?? You lose boost between shifts, simple as that :eyes:


Ok MR know-it-all about imports even though you hate them, why exactly do you lose boosts between shifts? Thats not a true statement under certain circumstances and its NOT exactly correct when it does apply.

Ok MR know-it-all about imports even though you hate them, why exactly do you lose boosts between shifts? Thats not a true statement under certain circumstances and its NOT exactly correct when it does apply.

Unless you powershift the car, you are going to lose boost between shifts.

So unless you like destroying clutches and synchros, you're going to have turbo lag between shifts.

Unless you powershift the car, you are going to lose boost between shifts.

So unless you like destroying clutches and synchros, you're going to have turbo lag between shifts.

You didnt answer the question. There is also a difference between LAG and LOSS of spool. Plus an auto wont have that problem. Can you even define LAG without googling it?

You honestly thing a stock Evo will take a stock M6 LS1 from a roll??

We're talking about a 50WHP difference, and 165lbs.

3450lbs - 3285lbs = 165lbs

Plus the LS1 has the much better powerband and better top end power.

From a dig it would be close, because the Evo can launch harder. But from a roll, it shouldn't even be a race.

someone said the LS1 has 290-300hp,and the evos usually dyno 260awhp plus or minus...now the evos weigh in at at about 3295lbs or so..

like i said to resolve this i will find a stock evo and a stock ls1 camaro and film it...with camera man in one car and passenger in the other.

You didnt answer the question. There is also a difference between LAG and LOSS of spool. Plus an auto wont have that problem. Can you even define LAG without googling it?

Lag is the time it takes between when you open the throttle and when you actually get full boost.

Loss of spool results in lag when you re-open the throttle. And yes, autos can reduce/eliminate lag, because you don't need to close the throttle between shifts.

someone said the LS1 has 290-300hp,and the evos usually dyno 260awhp plus or minus...now the evos weigh in at at about 3295lbs or so..

like i said to resolve this i will find a stock evo and a stock ls1 camaro and film it...with camera man in one car and passenger in the other.

I've never seen any stock Evo dyno 260WHP. Thats way the hell off, the car is only rated at 286 at the crank, and Mitsubishi has no reason to underate that motor numbers wise, considering Subaru's STi is rated at 300HP (293HP after being certified).

Most Evo 8's I've seen dyno'd pulled about 220-235WHP bone stock. All the Evo 9's I've seen pulled between 230WHP and 245WHP. 260 isn't even in the ballpark, try a dyno tat doesn't throw in a 10% correction factor next time...:eyes:

Lag is the time it takes between when you open the throttle and when you actually get full boost.

Loss of spool results in lag when you re-open the throttle. And yes, autos can reduce/eliminate lag, because you don't need to close the throttle between shifts.

Wow, you've either never driven a turbo car or are the worst driver/shifter in the world. When you shift you never fall out of boost unless you take seconds to shift, in which case you shouldnt be racing.

Lag is the time it takes between when you open the throttle and when you actually get full boost.

Loss of spool results in lag when you re-open the throttle. And yes, autos can reduce/eliminate lag, because you don't need to close the throttle between shifts.

Nope..google it again. Autos cannot ELEMINATE LAG. Thats impossible. They can LESSEN it but that has nothing to do with shifting or this discussion. They can eliminate loss of boost between shifts though.

Wow, you've either never driven a turbo car or are the worst driver/shifter in the world. When you shift you never fall out of boost unless you take seconds to shift, in which case you shouldnt be racing.

Wow, you're obviously in denial, just like always.

Evertime you shift and get back on the throttle you can hear the turbos spool up again. They don't stay spooled when you let off the gas to shift, hence the turbo whistle you hear when you get back on the throttle.

I just drove my friends 2.7 TT Audi Last night. And that car has a much better powerband than a 2.0 4 banger single turbo Evo.

I've never seen any stock Evo dyno 260WHP. Thats way the hell off, the car is only rated at 286 at the crank, and Mitsubishi has no reason to underate that motor numbers wise, considering Subaru's STi is rated at 300HP (293HP after being certified).

Most Evo 8's I've seen dyno'd pulled about 220-235WHP bone stock. All the Evo 9's I've seen pulled between 230WHP and 245WHP. 260 isn't even in the ballpark, try a dyno tat doesn't throw in a 10% correction factor next time...:eyes:

LOL...didnt GM rate the camaro and Pontiac rate the Transam at 300 crank? Why is it that because you havent seen it with you own eyes you think it doesnt exist? How old are you again? You are far from being an expert on Imports so stop trying to act like you are.

Nope..google it again. Autos cannot ELEMINATE LAG. Thats impossible. They can LESSEN it but that has nothing to do with shifting or this discussion. They can eliminate loss of boost between shifts though.

I didn't google anything, dipshit.

You're just pissed because I know more than you think. Get a life. Obviously nothing can fully eliminate turbo lag, way to take everything 100% literally :eyes:

I didn't google anything, dipshit.

You're just pissed because I know more than you think. Get a life. Obviously nothing can fully eliminate turbo lag, way to take everything 100% literally :eyes:

LOL..so now we have to resort to name calling? You have no clue what you are talking about. You didnt even get my point. Get a life? You are the one that has to keep making up screen names after being booted of a car website. How pathetic is that?

LOL...didnt GM rate the camaro and Pontiac rate the Transam at 300 crank? Why is it that because you havent seen it with you own eyes you think it doesnt exist? How old are you again? You are far from being an expert on Imports so stop trying to act like you are.

Hey, I'm not the fuckup who feels the need to troll an LS1 forum to try and gain respect for his riced up import. You have 6 posts in 4 years, you're a complete waste of time, stop addressing me.

GM underrated the F-body so it wouldn't steal sales away from the Corvette.

Mitsubishi and Subaru are competitors, they want to steal sales away from each other. If Mitsubishi could rate the Evo at a higher power output than the STi, they sure as hell would. The motor isn't that powerful though.

I've never seen any stock Evo dyno 260WHP. Thats way the hell off, the car is only rated at 286 at the crank, and Mitsubishi has no reason to underate that motor numbers wise, considering Subaru's STi is rated at 300HP (293HP after being certified).

Most Evo 8's I've seen dyno'd pulled about 220-235WHP bone stock. All the Evo 9's I've seen pulled between 230WHP and 245WHP. 260 isn't even in the ballpark, try a dyno tat doesn't throw in a 10% correction factor next time...:eyes:


wow you are a idiot..its official..my buddys evo ix dynoed at 263awhp BONE STOCK here in hawaii...what you gonna make excuses now,it happened

Wow, you're obviously in denial, just like always.

Evertime you shift and get back on the throttle you can hear the turbos spool up again. They don't stay spooled when you let off the gas to shift, hence the turbo whistle you hear when you get back on the throttle.

I just drove my friends 2.7 TT Audi Last night. And that car has a much better powerband than a 2.0 4 banger single turbo Evo.

LOL..the whistle you hear is the BOV. Do you actually believe half the crap you type?

Hey, I'm not the fuckup who feels the need to troll an LS1 forum to try and gain respect for his riced up import. You have 6 posts in 4 years, you're a complete waste of time, stop addressing me.

So you think having a big post count makes you smart? Gain respect? LOL..you have no clue what I have accomplished so watch you mouth youngster. I race for real. Only thing you do is spout off inforrmation from the internet and magazines.

LOL..the whistle you hear is the BOV. Do you actually believe half the crap you type?


The whistle you hear increasing in pitch as you get back on the throttle isn't a damn BOV.

You don't even have any idea what you are talking about yourself.

So you think having a big post count makes you smart? Gain respect? LOL..you have no clue what I have accomplished so watch you mouth youngster. I race for real. Only thing you do is spout off inforrmation from the internet and magazines.

"I race for real" :jest:

Where have i heard that befiore?? F&F?? Yup.

You're just like every other cocky import owner kid, you think your car is some kind of god until you get your ass handed to you by a real car.

fearsm has owned probably 6 supras...im taking a wild guess,maybe more i dont know..but i know he has had a lot...im sure he knows what hes talking about..not some redneck who doesnt even own a ws6

wow you are a idiot..its official..my buddys evo ix dynoed at 263awhp BONE STOCK here in hawaii...what you gonna make excuses now,it happened

No, you are a dumbfuck.

Find a dyno that doesn't inflate the numbers. It was probably correcting for air temps, ect. No stock Evo 9's are putting 263HP to the wheels, you're a retard if you believe those numbers.

"I race for real" :jest:

Where have i heard that befiore?? F&F?? Yup.

You're just like every other cocky import owner kid, you think your car is some kind of god until you get your ass handed to you by a real car.

and your "real car" i hope your not reffering to your invisible WS6

"I race for real" :jest:

Where have i heard that befiore?? F&F?? Yup.

You're just like every other cocky import owner kid, you think your car is some kind of god until you get your ass handed to you by a real car.


LOL..I have time slips..plenty of them. Several trophies from racing on island. How about I post some time slips and you do the same. People on this very board, DOMESTIC OWNERS will vouch for me because they have raced with me.

No, you are a dumbfuck.

Find a dyno that doesn't inflate the numbers. It was probably correcting for air temps, ect. No stock Evo 9's are putting 263HP to the wheels, you're a retard if you believe those numbers.

That means that the dynos you get your numbers from are inflating the numbers to.

No, you are a dumbfuck.

Find a dyno that doesn't inflate the numbers. It was probably correcting for air temps, ect. No stock Evo 9's are putting 263HP to the wheels, you're a retard if you believe those numbers.


trust me this dyno reads correct..it was a dynojet 424x,probably one of the best AWD dynos out there..

you just upset cus its been done and you didnt think it could..

actually one did 263awhp and the other did 259awhp...a new evo IX is quicker then you think..

even the older model evo's(evo viii) in road and track did 13.0 at over 100mph

fearsm has owned probably 6 supras...im taking a wild guess,maybe more i dont know..but i know he has had a lot...im sure he knows what hes talking about..not some redneck who doesnt even own a ws6

Yep, calling people on here rednecks will get you real far.

Here you are with zero posts braggin about your POS evo and how "everyone that drives a Do-mestic is a redneck dawg", you're a white trash wigger retard.

Bump up your gangsta rap, cock your sean paul hat sideways, and keep on rolling through town real slow with your fart can buzzing on your shitty import. It'll get you a lot of respect. Or just make people laugh.

Yep, calling people on here rednecks will get you real far.

Here you are with zero posts braggin about your POS evo and how "everyone that drives a Do-mestic is a redneck dawg", you're a white trash wigger retard.

Bump up your gangsta rap, cock your sean paul hat sideways, and keep on rolling through town real slow with your fart can buzzing on your shitty import. It'll get you a lot of respect. Or just make people laugh.

i believe i earned my respect...and zero post?there you go again the only thing you can mention!!who gives a fuck

just to let you know i ran a 500/500 trans am ws6 408 twice last nite...2nd gear roll he got the jump and we were door to door..next race was 1st gear roll and i had him by 1-2 cars..but yet i have less HP and a POS jap bumble bee car..

have you even heard a cammed,big turbo evo before?its not a fart sound...

Sigh. Another thread being taken over from our new fanbois.

Here you go ONEBAD..so wheres your proof? Why is it you cant even produce a pic of your car?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7UWRTt9738
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VtecfrqVlU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR8THim94Xg

Here you go ONEBAD..so wheres your proof? Why is it you cant even produce a pic of your car?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7UWRTt9738
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VtecfrqVlU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR8THim94Xg

he cant post a pic/video/or dyno numbers bc he doesnt own a ws6 plain and simple..its just a dream

Sigh. Another thread being taken over from our new fanbois.

New fanbois? I have been on this site longer than you. If certain individuals wouldnt spout out erroneous bullshit about imports we wouldnt have this problem.

hahaha how is a guy who has been on shorter call someone a new fanboy??makes no sense...

i think onebadassws6 is googleing right now fearsm

Wow, you're obviously in denial, just like always.

Evertime you shift and get back on the throttle you can hear the turbos spool up again. They don't stay spooled when you let off the gas to shift, hence the turbo whistle you hear when you get back on the throttle.

I just drove my friends 2.7 TT Audi Last night. And that car has a much better powerband than a 2.0 4 banger single turbo Evo.

Seriously, how long does it take you to shift a damn car? You must own an auto.

Also a 2.7 TT Audi is also single turbo, the TT stands for Tourist Trophy :bang: :jest: and there slow. But you probably knew that since your an expert.

hahaha how is a guy who has been on shorter call someone a new fanboy??makes no sense...

i think onebadassws6 is googleing right now fearsm


LOL..he is just some punk kid with a bicyle that comes on here talking crap. Instead of pics or timeslips he will come out and say..
"You arent worth my time" or some such other import hating nonsense to why he wont show any proof. His usual bullshit. Or of course he will resort to name calling and saying "THIS IS LSITECH blah blah blah, MUSLECARS RULE IMPORTS DROOL" GET OFF HERE AND GO TO WWW.YOURIMPORTSUCKS.COM or something like that.

Seriously, how long does it take you to shift a damn car? You must own an auto.

Also a 2.7 TT Audi is also single turbo, the TT stands for Tourist Trophy :bang: :jest: and there slow. But you probably knew that since your an expert.
He's talking about a 2.7 liter twin turbo A6...

New fanbois? I have been on this site longer than you. If certain individuals wouldnt spout out erroneous bullshit about imports we wouldnt have this problem.
Not you. The other two, they've been taking every thread as of late.

hahaha how is a guy who has been on shorter call someone a new fanboy??makes no sense...

i think onebadassws6 is googleing right now fearsmI'm calling you a fanyboy, fanboy. :jest: :mullet:

But at least we know you actually have a car, that actually is pretty fast, and who actually races people. Can't say the same for the other one. :chug:

LOL..he is just some punk kid with a bicyle that comes on here talking crap. Instead of pics or timeslips he will come out and say..
"You arent worth my time" or some such other import hating nonsense to why he wont show any proof. His usual bullshit. Or of course he will resort to name calling and saying "THIS IS LSITECH blah blah blah, MUSLECARS RULE IMPORTS DROOL" GET OFF HERE AND GO TO WWW.YOURIMPORTSUCKS.COM or something like that.

LOL...that was good..why does it always resort to the imports are gay,jap cars suck..i think its a envy thing..i mean i love cars that are fast period.

theres a lot of people on here just like him(maybe not as dumb) but the same import ricer talk..its really old..maybe a civic with a big exhaust and APC sticker is "rice" but not a 700+hp supra,or a 400+evo.

oh ive seen your car at GX friday...looks like its gonna be there a while..should look good

I'm calling you a fanyboy, fanboy. :jest: :mullet:

But at least we know you actually have a car, that actually is pretty fast, and who actually races people. Can't say the same for the other one. :chug:


well im a noob on here,yeah..i was referred to by the viper guy..i would have never found it otherwise..

me and ws6 loser go at it quite a bit..its always rice this rice that...its pathetic...he cant see past his GM car.

but thanks,i am a noob.but i do have a car,and its pretty fast..and i will race everyone once.cus most people give the "he has more hp then me" kinda think..but every person who has called me out or got a hold of someone to race me has had more HP then me.

and the little evo surprises everyone

LOL...that was good..why does it always resort to the imports are gay,jap cars suck..i think its a envy thing..i mean i love cars that are fast period.

theres a lot of people on here just like him(maybe not as dumb) but the same import ricer talk..its really old..maybe a civic with a big exhaust and APC sticker is "rice" but not a 700+hp supra,or a 400+evo.

oh ive seen your car at GX friday...looks like its gonna be there a while..should look good

Maybe about 2 weeks more. Engine is out, just have to fix a few things and paint. The hard part is over.

well im a noob on here,yeah..i was referred to by the viper guy..i would have never found it otherwise..

me and ws6 loser go at it quite a bit..its always rice this rice that...its pathetic...he cant see past his GM car.

but thanks,i am a noob.but i do have a car,and its pretty fast..and i will race everyone once.cus most people give the "he has more hp then me" kinda think..but every person who has called me out or got a hold of someone to race me has had more HP then me.

and the little evo surprises everyone
I think he actually just spews out random bullshit that he knows is retarded for his own entertainment, just to see who will respond to it and keep himself entertained with the following responses. I have a hard time believing someone could be that moronic. But who knows... :bang:

I think he actually just spews out random bullshit that he knows is retarded for his own entertainment, just to see who will respond to it and keep himself entertained with the following responses. I have a hard time believing someone could be that moronic. But who knows... :bang:

I used to think that. But some of his posts you can tell he actually believes the crap his is saying. Kinda scary actually.

its funny that a guy with no LS1 can talk shit....im not doubting he owns a domestic..but ill bet its a focus..

a lot of guys may not have a ls1,camaro,cobra,etc etc but they have quick cars...something he doesnt have at all

No, you are a dumbfuck.



This is about all I see from your posts in this thread. What exactly are you contributing to this site with this kind of talk. Take a few days off, maybe grow up a bit, learn to play well with others. If you can't figure out how to do that after your few days off from this site, you are gone for good. I don't care what you post in other sections, this is ridiculous.


Let this be a warning to everyone else, no need for the name calling, lets keep on topic here.

To the original poster, nice kill. It seems the LS1 has a bit of an edge from a roll, but from a dig, the evo usually pulls out in front. I've seen VERY similar stock 1/4 mile times for both vehicles. Don't base your judgement of a car by one particular example. :cheers:

Well hears one guys opinion..

My 2004 C5 when bone stock was 3310 pounds acording to the registration and dynoed 299 rwhp/309 rwt SAE. it was a auto with2.73 gears.

I frequented the drag strip 2-3 times per month all year long. on one particular night anEvo club/group showed up at the strip that was 10 deep.

out of the 10..3 of them were bone stock. Well wer talked for a little while and then lined up one by one..

My stock auto C5 vrs 3 different stock evo's..

I ran 13.5-13.7 at 102-103 mph against each of them.

They ran in the 13.9-14.2 range at 97-99 mph..

what I observed was that they would pull 1-2 cars on me till around 70 mph. Since i gteched my car bone stock 0-60 in 4.9 seconds at the drag strip many times...Id estimate they were hitting 0-60 mph in the 4.5 range..

But by 70 mph I was back beside them and then would just walk away by 3-4 cars before the end of the 1/4 mile, ending up with a mid 13 vrs their high 13..

So IMHO a LS1 Will defiently walk away from an EVO with equal drivers..

then again my stock C5 was a bit quicker than the stock fbodies at the track. The manual fbodies seemed to run in the 13.7-13.9 at 103-104 range bone stock while the auto fbodies seemed to run in the 13.8-14.0 at 100-101 mph range bone stock..So not too much faster than the stock Evo's but still faster mph's..

So while theri very comparable in the 1/4 mile the LS1 will pull the Evo on the freeway no question..

lots of people like to talk about thenew Evo's with 260 rwhp and how they can trap 105-106..

fbodies trapped up to 108 mph back in 1998. c5's trapped up to 110 mph back in 1997..

just my honest opinion..that a 300 rwhp 3450 pound manual fbody will walk even the new 260 awhp 3290 pound Evo from 60-130

i say killemall we get a bone stock evo and camaro and do it!

a bone stock evo is tough to find, and is there a bone stock LS1 camaro in existance? ha ha

yes they are both are to find..but do believe i know one of each

On the next outing thenwe should make that happen..but Destroyer...Your evo's a freak man...

i can got to the www.808evo.com board right now and most of them trap under 110 mph at our track even with lots of mods..

Your car trapped 123 and has 425 awhp on pump gas wich is well above average for are area...

What IM TRYING TO SAY IS THAT WHILE tHE DESTROYER IS A AWESOME MACHINE. your Evo brethernarent exactly representing and who ever has this stock evo will be heading towards a loss against a stock LS1..

Now i think that if we can find a bone stock 2004 auto LS1 GTO then the Evo will have a good chance.

MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST LOOK FOR ONE OF THOSE INSTEAD OF AN FBODY TO MAKE IT CLOSER......
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....ha ha ha..just joking and talking a lil sh*t to get you riled up man..It'll be a good run with a camaro

a bone stock evo is tough to find, and is there a bone stock LS1 camaro in existance? ha ha

Mine! Well, for the next half an hour or so until I get my lid and filter on. Then, it'll be only MARGINALLY modified though. :jest:

On the next outing thenwe should make that happen..but Destroyer...Your evo's a freak man...

i can got to the www.808evo.com board right now and most of them trap under 110 mph at our track even with lots of mods..

Your car trapped 123 and has 425 awhp on pump gas wich is well above average for are area...

What IM TRYING TO SAY IS THAT WHILE tHE DESTROYER IS A AWESOME MACHINE. your Evo brethernarent exactly representing and who ever has this stock evo will be heading towards a loss against a stock LS1..

Now i think that if we can find a bone stock 2004 auto LS1 GTO then the Evo will have a good chance.

MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST LOOK FOR ONE OF THOSE INSTEAD OF AN FBODY TO MAKE IT CLOSER......
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....ha ha ha..just joking and talking a lil sh*t to get you riled up man..It'll be a good run with a camaro


hahahaha....yeah and 123mph was a horrible night too...low boost,no launching at all...i think if i had it set up right that nite,and had a aftermarket clutch at the time i think i can do high 120s,easy...thanks,i love my evo..about to put my new piping on

someone said the LS1 has 290-300hp,and the evos usually dyno 260awhp plus or minus...now the evos weigh in at at about 3295lbs or so..

like i said to resolve this i will find a stock evo and a stock ls1 camaro and film it...with camera man in one car and passenger in the other.

i have stock ls1 98 t/a where are you? i'm down to run if you cant find an ls1

GM underrated the F-body so it wouldn't steal sales away from the Corvette.


I actually read/heard about that from numerous sources

well im a noob on here,yeah..i was referred to by the viper guy..i would have never found it otherwise..



Me????? if so, i never reffered you...

i have stock ls1 98 t/a where are you? i'm down to run if you cant find an ls1

im soory i dont want to waste your time...my evo will destroy you...thanks...come back when you have more hp...

im soory i dont want to waste your time...my evo will destroy you...thanks...come back when you have more hp...
okay nostradamus. you said you were looking for stock ls1 vs stock evo.

forgetful jones...

im soory i dont want to waste your time...my evo will destroy you...thanks...come back when you have more hp...

Any pics of this bad ass Evo???

im soory i dont want to waste your time...my evo will destroy you...thanks...come back when you have more hp...
Didnt you just say you wanted to find a stock LS1 and a stock Evo? Well there is your stock LS1! :jest:

i'm right here.

he also said he already knew a stock evo and stock ls1. and he also said he's looking for a stock ls1 and a stock evo... hmm...

did you want to run me or a stock evo?im far from stock...and im in hawaii..unless you can get you and car here by fri/sat i can get you a stock evo

meh i'm in So-CAL. What year evo do you have?

Hey I have an army buddy down there in Hawaii with a Z28 I want you to run. His screenname on here is 99Z28Monster. He has a heads, cam, exhaust car I think you and him would be a decent run!

i have a 05 evo gsr

well have him PM me and he can chill with us one weekend...

not to be cocky but if all his has is a ls1 with those minor mods..then i think i will take him...i was door to door with a 408 stroker ws6 with 500+hp/500+ftlbs torque..

but hey have him PM me

what color is it?is he a younger guy?black?white?

No...

A heads cam car is not minor..

He could be 380 rwhp..He could be 460 rwhp..Just depends on his heads and cam selection..

Granted he needs to have an pretty extreme set up to run with you or weight reduction..I still would never take a head/cam Fbody lightly..

That cammed LS2 GTO that ran the other night that had 420 rwhp wasnt that fast. but thats because he was in a 3800 pound GTO..

Put 420 rwhp in a 3450 pound Fbody and it will be MUCH closer..

The 408 we raced IS NOT 500 rwhp. His dynoright now is 473 standard ( wich is actually around 460 SAE)

A true 500 rwhp SAE WS6 would crush us both at this point by 2-3 cars on the freeway..

1FASTTRANSAM is a kool guy. but until he has a dyno of 500 rwhp SAE we cant say that we can run even with/pull a 500 rwhp 408..

Im sure once all the tunings done and everythings worked out he'll have 500 rwhp and we'll need a lil more mods/power to hang.

But as of right now he's 460 rwhp SAE

i have a 05 evo gsr

well have him PM me and he can chill with us one weekend...

not to be cocky but if all his has is a ls1 with those minor mods..then i think i will take him...i was door to door with a 408 stroker ws6 with 500+hp/500+ftlbs torque..

but hey have him PM me

what color is it?is he a younger guy?black?white?
It is a black Z28, he is a younger white guy stationed there in the army. I will have him pm you.
P.S.
After the pm I got I am pretty sure you will walk him. :drive:
But he is a cool guy and needs a group of alright guys to run with so...

well he says its over 500/500 now...but no dyno sheets...but i wouldnt be worried if he has over 500rwhp...id still run him again..and i doubt he would take my by 2-3 cars on the freeway at that point

i really wanted to run rex in his camaro..with him on NOS too...i talked to my buddy lloyd about what he thought of that camaro.

It is a black Z28, he is a younger white guy stationed there in the army. I will have him pm you.
P.S.
After the pm I got I am pretty sure you will walk him. :drive:
But he is a cool guy and needs a group of alright guys to run with so...


how long has he been in?kinda stocky guy?i may have seen him around...but just have him PM me...

im sure he's seen my gold evo rolling around..or the infamous "flat black' evo before i painted it

Destroyer are you the one with the badass evo that was talkin all that shit to onebadassws6...cuz that sounded like one sick evo

how long has he been in?kinda stocky guy?i may have seen him around...but just have him PM me...

im sure he's seen my gold evo rolling around..or the infamous "flat black' evo before i painted it
Yea he is a kinda stocky guy, I will have him pm you.

Well best of luck to you man..

I personally beleave that a 500 rwhp 408 can run dead even with a c6z06..

And I dont think were quite at that level yet..

I honestly beleave me and you are 120-125 mph trapping cars..

while a 500 rwhp 408 camaro/firebird is a 125-130 mph trapping car..

But hey I could be wrong and mostly I speak for my self. only YOU really know what your Evo's true performance is...Besies your 425 on pump gas..Wont TAKE TOO MUCH TO MAKE BIGGER NUMBERS ON RACE ANYWAYS..

So when he gets tuned and is pushing 500 rwhp dyno verified we should have it arranged...

Hey killemall your viper isnt red is it?

no man the one you saw in my pics is the supercharged one.

Destroyer are you the one with the badass evo that was talkin all that shit to onebadassws6...cuz that sounded like one sick evo

yeah that guys a tool...and thanks

Well best of luck to you man..

I personally beleave that a 500 rwhp 408 can run dead even with a c6z06..

And I dont think were quite at that level yet..

I honestly beleave me and you are 120-125 mph trapping cars..

while a 500 rwhp 408 camaro/firebird is a 125-130 mph trapping car..

But hey I could be wrong and mostly I speak for my self. only YOU really know what your Evo's true performance is...Besies your 425 on pump gas..Wont TAKE TOO MUCH TO MAKE BIGGER NUMBERS ON RACE ANYWAYS..

So when he gets tuned and is pushing 500 rwhp dyno verified we should have it arranged...

i truely believe my car will trap over 125mph...easy....like i said even on pump gas,22psi,race map( should have been on pump..so some things are tuned different which may have hurt me) and absolutely no launching and hawaiis horrible horrible track i did 123mph like i mentioned before.

and from what ive heard you should take off e.t and add mph to your times for hawaii to meet mainland tracks...

i honestly think that with the right set up(pump gas,right boost,right tune) and a launch and quick shifting it will do 125mph+)call me crazy but i think so.and that nite i had almost a full tank of gas...

i absolutely love the car and set up..its the only awd car ive been in that car break loose sometimes when i dump second...and while we were tuning race gas i couldnt even keep it in my lane.

and this is upgrade turbo on stock block etc...i cant wait for pistons,rods,head,etc...

not sure if i should go for a built 2.0L which is better for drag and can rev to 9000-10000 rpm...or go with a stroker kit(2.3L) and not rev as high(8500 or so) but give me a lot of torque...i think the 2.0L is what ill go with.cus both will help spool me quicker but a high revving motor is always good and its a cheaper build..pistons,rods,bearings,etc...the stroker is $2300 or so when i can build my 2.0 for cheaper

once that is done and head,bigger turbo,intake manifold,dual fuel rails,etc etc.then it will be ugly,very very ugly..lol,if i keep same turbo with that set up should lay down 630awhp-650awhp if i upgrade turbo im looking at 710awhp or so

not sure if i should go for a built 2.0L which is better for drag and can rev to 9000-10000 rpm...or go with a stroker kit(2.3L) and not rev as high(8500 or so) but give me a lot of torque...i think the 2.0L is what ill go with.cus both will help spool me quicker but a high revving motor is always good and its a cheaper build..pistons,rods,bearings,etc...the stroker is $2300 or so when i can build my 2.0 for cheaper

once that is done and head,bigger turbo,intake manifold,dual fuel rails,etc etc.then it will be ugly,very very ugly..lol,if i keep same turbo with that set up should lay down 630awhp-650awhp if i upgrade turbo im looking at 710awhp or so

I think you're missing something here. The stroker bottom ends do not need to rev as high as the 2L bottom ends to flow alot of air. If its going to see the track most of the time, go 2L. If its a street car stick with the stroker, you wont regret it. I'm loving my 2.4L bottom end.

Well....I dont thionk my car can trap 125 mph..

With my 3350 pounds and 440 rwhp plus info from what ever Vipers can trapp I think Im probally right around 123 mph..

Bone stock gen 2 vipers have done 121 mph. And a few mags got 120 mph traps bone stock. With my extra 30 rwhp Im probally around 123 mph at best.

Wich is why I also beleave are runs are so close..

Im dropping my car off this friday to have my AEM installed and Im hoping for 460/500..

Then ill be around 125 mph traps...

Keep in touch and hopefully we can get that Evo,Viper,WS6,Supra freeway roll video this weekend.

I think you're missing something here. The stroker bottom ends do not need to rev as high as the 2L bottom ends to flow alot of air. If its going to see the track most of the time, go 2L. If its a street car stick with the stroker, you wont regret it. I'm loving my 2.4L bottom end.

did i say anything about a stroker revving high?no i said they will go to about 8500

Well....I dont thionk my car can trap 125 mph..

With my 3350 pounds and 440 rwhp plus info from what ever Vipers can trapp I think Im probally right around 123 mph..

Bone stock gen 2 vipers have done 121 mph. And a few mags got 120 mph traps bone stock. With my extra 30 rwhp Im probally around 123 mph at best.

Wich is why I also beleave are runs are so close..

Im dropping my car off this friday to have my AEM installed and Im hoping for 460/500..

Then ill be around 125 mph traps...

Keep in touch and hopefully we can get that Evo,Viper,WS6,Supra freeway roll video this weekend.

Just installing the AEM will not automatically give you any more HP. In fact, if the base tune on the box is not a good one its gonna run like crap. You wont notice anything till its tuned properly.

It's gonna be tuned as well...OF COURSE..LOL

I wouldnt just throw it on and expect to pick up power brother..

Ive got a guy who's already done a few AEM's installing/tuning it and then for good measure im gonna have another shop check everything out on the dyno..

So it's gonna be wide band dynoed on the road-and then wide band dynoed on the dyno..

Typical gain is 10-20 rwhp ( since vipers are tuned to run like crap from the factory)

Im not expecting any miricals..In a lil while when I get a SC or TT or maybe just a 300 shot of Nos ill be using the AEM for it's full capabilities..

FOR NOW I JUST WANNA GET 3000$ WORTH OF TUNER OUT OF MY FREAKIN CLOSET AND ON THE CAR lol

It's gonna be tuned as well...OF COURSE..LOL

I wouldnt just throw it on and expect to pick up power brother..

Ive got a guy who's already done a few AEM's installing/tuning it and then for good measure im gonna have another shop check everything out on the dyno..

So it's gonna be wide band dynoed on the road-and then wide band dynoed on the dyno..

Typical gain is 10-20 rwhp ( since vipers are tuned to run like crap from the factory)

Im not expecting any miricals..In a lil while when I get a SC or TT or maybe just a 300 shot of Nos ill be using the AEM for it's full capabilities..

FOR NOW I JUST WANNA GET 3000$ WORTH OF TUNER OUT OF MY FREAKIN CLOSET AND ON THE CAR lol

I know who is installing it. That same guy installed and tuned the AEM on Gus's stealth. At the track he was running at 114-115 mph. Couldnt turn the boost up because the tune was crap. This is from months of tuning. John came and in ONE night of tuning Gus went to the track and trapped at 130 mph. Thats over 150 rwhp gain from just the tune. So you take that how you will...

No...

A heads cam car is not minor..

He could be 380 rwhp..He could be 460 rwhp..Just depends on his heads and cam selection..

Granted he needs to have an pretty extreme set up to run with you or weight reduction..I still would never take a head/cam Fbody lightly..

That cammed LS2 GTO that ran the other night that had 420 rwhp wasnt that fast. but thats because he was in a 3800 pound GTO..

Put 420 rwhp in a 3450 pound Fbody and it will be MUCH closer..

The 408 we raced IS NOT 500 rwhp. His dynoright now is 473 standard ( wich is actually around 460 SAE)

A true 500 rwhp SAE WS6 would crush us both at this point by 2-3 cars on the freeway..

1FASTTRANSAM is a kool guy. but until he has a dyno of 500 rwhp SAE we cant say that we can run even with/pull a 500 rwhp 408..

Im sure once all the tunings done and everythings worked out he'll have 500 rwhp and we'll need a lil more mods/power to hang.

But as of right now he's 460 rwhp SAE

I was there the night the recent race with 1fasttransam, my car was marking the end, I was there when the trans am was dynoed; his car hit 473 with the dyno operator only taking the car to 5800rpm, not reaching the redline or close. Yes the tune is still not completley dialed in either for lack of a professional tuning shop here on island. It's pretty close to 500rwhp now.

Destroyer: Your car is fast, but I never heard your turbo spool up that night, I was waiting for it. The first race was the closest, but you BOTH took off too soon after the minivan rolled out and speedy had to back out to avoid running over it, you had him by a fender to half car on that race. The second race you got him by about a car and a half, he said that he lost traction when he shifted and had to let off to get control again. I know that he is also taking it easy on his rearend right now to avoid snapping an axle or breaking welds and twisting the tubes on the DR's; the car is his daily driver too.

I want to make sure that you don't think that I'm down playing the race or your ride, you get my resptect for the mods and the driving I've witnessed your car is no joke. Although I prefer American Muscle to the littler imports, I can appreciate the time and effort as well as money you've invested in tweaking your car and getting it to where it is now.

If 1fasttransam gets his tune dialed in correctly, I know that he can give you a very good run for your money, it would be a good race to see.

I was there the night the recent race with 1fasttransam, my car was marking the end, I was there when the trans am was dynoed; his car hit 473 with the dyno operator only taking the car to 5800rpm, not reaching the redline or close. Yes the tune is still not completley dialed in either for lack of a professional tuning shop here on island. It's pretty close to 500rwhp now.

Destroyer: Your car is fast, but I never heard your turbo spool up that night, I was waiting for it. The first race was the closest, but you BOTH took off too soon after the minivan rolled out and speedy had to back out to avoid running over it, you had him by a fender to half car on that race. The second race you got him by about a car and a half, he said that he lost traction when he shifted and had to let off to get control again. I know that he is also taking it easy on his rearend right now to avoid snapping an axle or breaking welds and twisting the tubes on the DR's; the car is his daily driver too.

I want to make sure that you don't think that I'm down playing the race or your ride, you get my resptect for the mods and the driving I've witnessed your car is no joke. Although I prefer American Muscle to the littler imports, I can appreciate the time and effort as well as money you've invested in tweaking your car and getting it to where it is now.

If 1fasttransam gets his tune dialed in correctly, I know that he can give you a very good run for your money, it would be a good race to see.


thanks...well trust me my turbo was spooling and it spools hard...it might have been my wastegate you were hearing..its very loud and external dump.the turbo with external dump sounds nothing like internal...i rode in a evo in florida with same mods as me but internal dump and it sounds like a turbo..(may sound funny) when i pound mine it sounds nothing like a turbo(at least from the inside) i think its the dump is all you hear..

but thanks for the respect.thats what i like to hear..i went there that nite to do that..show what my car can do..and that its not you "typical" hawaii import...maybe ill see you around again