Captainofiron

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Ok well I was looking for the thread where this question was asked, but I couldnt find it, so here ya go.

Since I was upgrading to 1.65 RRs I was changing out my valve springs, and I thought I would upgrade to some Beehives, well after holding for a while and calling back a few times, I finally talked to a guy on Cam Help. Turns out that with a stock cam with 1.6 or 1.65 ratio rockers the 26918-16 beehive spring will drop down directly onto the stock spring seat and require no machining or shims.

So if you want to get Beehives, you need:
26918-16 beehive valve springs
795-16 spring retainers
611-16 valve locks

edited for your safety

nonosvt

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I have the 918 with a stock cam with 1.6 por mags on my car right now. its fine

Captainofiron

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opps I meant to put 795-16 as the part number for the retainers.

Those retainers are for 10 degree locks

Taubr Unit

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and that is why the beehive springs are the ****! Easy bolt-in and go.

Formula350

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Capt, you should edit your initial post then to correct the info.

Black94lt1

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what all do you need to change the valve springs on the car? i just ordered a new cam and putting on the beehive srpings as well. can i use the retainers and locks that came with my hotcam srpings or do i have to order the retainers and locks for the beehive springs?

Formula350

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There's a tool at most of your local auto stores that screws into your sparkplug hole for your air compressor, to pressurize the cylinders to keep the valves from dropping in. I think some Compression testers have the right fitting, and you can 'cheat' and use it's fitting on your compressor as well. Then a valve spring compressor and that's really it.

If that's not what you were asking, heh whoops >_>

Black94lt1

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that's all i needed to know, thanks!!!

Captainofiron

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if your changing the valve springs I would replace the retainers, the locks, the valve seals,

the tools your need to change it on the car is the on car valve spring compressor, get a good one, not a cheapo AZ rental, and you can do it 2 valves at a time, rotating the piston to TDC so the valves wont fall, or you can do what Formula350 said and get the compressor tool to push the valves up, both ways are good, you just need a compressor for the second method

ckyconan2003

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using a compressor to build pressure will make things hard because you gotta get a hose in there and what not....just put each cylinder at TDC and switch out valves. i have 918 springs and thats how i did. was a piece of cake.

seawolf06

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Here's some corrections:

613-16 These are the standard 10 degree locks without the recessions for the lash cap like the 611 locks have which we don't use. It might not make much difference, but then again it might. I'd get the 613 locks.

614-16 These locks are 10 degree that add .050" to the install height. These are necessary to get the recommended 1.8" install height with the 918 spring on a LT1 head. Can only be use with 10 degree retainers.

4705-16 These are the beehive spring locators. You should NOT use the stock locators with aftermarket springs. It just isn't wise and they don't cost that much.

1bdbrd

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what autoparts store did you find that air compressor fitting? i checked at advanced auto and oreilly's and neither knew what i was talking about. im gonna check napa and autozone this week unless someone can tell me where they got theirs.

Captainofiron

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the stock installed hieght is 1.7 I thought, and the like I said earlier the tech guys at Comp told me to get these.

and the stock seats can be used because those 918s drop right down on them

seawolf06

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The stock seats are the correct size, but they are not strong enough to stand up to the increased pressures of the beehive spring. You should only use the comp locators.

Taubr Unit

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hell yea, thanks to seawolf06, i got the whole kit. Im pretty sure i got everything here ill sell for cheap if you need a valvetrain!!

Formula350

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I worked at Checker (CSK, Checker, Shucks and Kragen) which is like, 50% owned now by Advanced. I noticed they had most of the stuff CSK did. I'd assume NAPA would be able to get it.

I see where you're coming from with the space issue and running a hose. You can get u-joint's for air though, so you can go in at a 90º angle.

You should be able to get TDC on each cyl no prob. 18436572 I'm sure I'd get frustrated though lol

Boodyrider

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And... beehives had a bad batch. Make damn sure you don't buy those.
AND, imho, the PRC or Patriot dual springs are FAR better, and include the seats, 10 degree titanium retainers, and locks.

Do more research before deciding the beehive 918s are the shiznit... you might wind up deciding they are just the shiz if you get the bad ones

seawolf06

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Duals and beehives both have pros and cons. There was a recent recall on the 918's I heard, so just make sure and talk about it with whomever you buy them from.