2 broken T56's. what can i do?
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2 broken T56's. what can i do?
ok. i'll get right to the point. i have a 96 T56 that was popping out of 3rd gear and needs those plasic bushings that break all the time and probbaly needs a new 3rd gear cuz it looks a little sketchy. i also have a 2000 LS1 that has a crack in all 3 peices of the case and a crack in the bell housing. i need to somehow make one tranny out of these two fit behind a 2001 LS6. i think all i need to do to work with the LS6 is get a new LSx bellhousing, take the input shaft from the 2000 and install it in the 96 and hopefully 3rd gear is the same in both so i can use the 2000 in the 96. and how are those aftermarket brass bushings?
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Originally Posted by qwank
ok. i'll get right to the point. i have a 96 T56 that was popping out of 3rd gear and needs those plasic bushings that break all the time and probbaly needs a new 3rd gear cuz it looks a little sketchy. i also have a 2000 LS1 that has a crack in all 3 peices of the case and a crack in the bell housing. i need to somehow make one tranny out of these two fit behind a 2001 LS6. i think all i need to do to work with the LS6 is get a new LSx bellhousing, take the input shaft from the 2000 and install it in the 96 and hopefully 3rd gear is the same in both so i can use the 2000 in the 96. and how are those aftermarket brass bushings?
You'll need the LS1 bell, and maybe the ring also
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If the adapter casing on the 2000 is not cracked it can be re-used( has to be if you use the LS1 release system) on the '96. Get the iron 3/4 fork too. The 3rd speed will work in a 96.If by bushings you mean fork pads, they work well IF you epoxy them on. Brass pads loose in a trans are a world worse than plastic. Do not let anyone tell you the fit tight enough without glue. The brass expands at gross rate compared to the fork base material and they are NOT tight when they work at temp.
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Brass pads loose in a trans are a world worse than plastic. Do not let anyone tell you the fit tight enough without glue. The brass expands at gross rate compared to the fork base material and they are NOT tight when they work at temp.
This is one thing I worry about if I were to use them as well in my planned rebuild. I plan to get my parts from RS Gear (as I work 1 mile from them) and when I asked them about bronze pads they stated that they "do not carry them at all as there is no need for them" and that as long as the clutch release system is properly functioning and the driver can shift properly that the stock plastic pads are more than adequate.
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ok so the brass pads are not going in then. thanks for the advice. i found the steel fork and it said that all the replacement nes are steel so i might try to order one at work tomorrow. I took the trans down to a welder today to see if i could do anything about the bell housing and the adapter plate. and they are rboth epairable since the crack on each is very minor. the main case and tailshaft housing are totaled though. watch out for rocks on the highway! lol
so, it looks like i need a new fork and bushings. and take 3rd gear, input shaft, adapter plate and bellhousing from the LS1 and install them to the LT1 trans. whats the differnce between the 2 tailshaft housings? if its only a matter of where the locations are to mount it to the crossmember, it wont be a problem since the tranny is going into a 68 camaro. and i'm sure i can find a crossmember thats works with both.
so, it looks like i need a new fork and bushings. and take 3rd gear, input shaft, adapter plate and bellhousing from the LS1 and install them to the LT1 trans. whats the differnce between the 2 tailshaft housings? if its only a matter of where the locations are to mount it to the crossmember, it wont be a problem since the tranny is going into a 68 camaro. and i'm sure i can find a crossmember thats works with both.
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Oh **** I used brass fork pads! and they werent fitting right, But I assumed they will stay in place once on the synchro sleeve/hub hels by the fork. I just used trans assembly lube to hold it in place at the moment.
Crap! I hope they dont fall out!
Crap! I hope they dont fall out!
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Originally Posted by calhoon
RSG is right , if your system and you are shifting properly you don't need more that the nylon pads BUT if you choose to install the brass pads, epoxy them in place.
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you need the built 6 speed i have that is a viper output shaft conversion but missing an input shaft and a cluster gear. $1k for everything, email mightym0use@comcast.net for pictures
you may actually want it more than need it, but you seem to be pretty hard on tranny's.
you may actually want it more than need it, but you seem to be pretty hard on tranny's.