Upgrading Stall, yank 4000 too much?
05-10-2007, 10:47 AM
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Upgrading Stall, yank 4000 too much? I want to upgrade my midwest 2800 stall becuase i feel its slowing the car down. I have a 93 hawk with 224/230 cam, le1 heads/ported intake, 3.73 gears, etc. Will also being installing a shift kit to go with the converter.
Car is not a daily driver, however it doesnt really see the track either. I want something that will really hit hard on launch. I am concerned a yank 4000 will be too loose to drive around, but im also concerned a 3600 would be leaving something on the table.
Anyone have anything to chime in? I am really wanting to go with that 4000, but i also dont want to have to rev the hell out of it to get it moving.
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Car is not a daily driver, however it doesnt really see the track either. I want something that will really hit hard on launch. I am concerned a yank 4000 will be too loose to drive around, but im also concerned a 3600 would be leaving something on the table.
Anyone have anything to chime in? I am really wanting to go with that 4000, but i also dont want to have to rev the hell out of it to get it moving.
Thanks!
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05-10-2007, 09:44 PM
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im actually leanin towards the 3600. i think ive read every thread on 3600/4000 stall and the 3600 seems to make most people happy. i just dont want to have to change the stall again. either way im sure it will be a definate improvement over the crappy 2800 stall now.
05-11-2007, 12:36 PM
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The 3400 Edge I have is loose enough for me. I really like the converter. I have never had a bigger one, but I don't see the need to even try one with my cam and cubes.
05-11-2007, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
Honestly for a street car I don't see more than abour 34-3600 as worthwhile. Car might drive OK with more but I doubt you would be able to take advantage of it.
from what ive read most people say the 3600 is very tolerable. and im liking the idea of launching with the 2.5 str.\
going with the ss3600
05-11-2007, 03:05 PM
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With the 3400 stall my car pulls on the brakes fairly hard at an 800rpm idle. Yes it slips more than a stock converter but the belief that you really need to rev to get the car moving only applies to old and very cheap converters. These days they drive suprizingly well.
Far as my comments on not being able to really use more than about 3600 I was thinking more at launch, most of us with street cars do not dead hook as is, so more stall and a harder hit on the tires stands little chance of helping beyond the 34-3600 stalls that are becoming popular.
Far as my comments on not being able to really use more than about 3600 I was thinking more at launch, most of us with street cars do not dead hook as is, so more stall and a harder hit on the tires stands little chance of helping beyond the 34-3600 stalls that are becoming popular.
05-11-2007, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
With the 3400 stall my car pulls on the brakes fairly hard at an 800rpm idle. Yes it slips more than a stock converter but the belief that you really need to rev to get the car moving only applies to old and very cheap converters. These days they drive suprizingly well.
Far as my comments on not being able to really use more than about 3600 I was thinking more at launch, most of us with street cars do not dead hook as is, so more stall and a harder hit on the tires stands little chance of helping beyond the 34-3600 stalls that are becoming popular.
Far as my comments on not being able to really use more than about 3600 I was thinking more at launch, most of us with street cars do not dead hook as is, so more stall and a harder hit on the tires stands little chance of helping beyond the 34-3600 stalls that are becoming popular.
05-11-2007, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mumu_624
I think 4000 stall is too big i say 3200 or 3600 stall..
05-11-2007, 04:43 PM
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As someone new to stalls and owning my first stall car. My 96 with a Yank 3000+ not sure on exact size convertor drives exceptionally well on the atreet and on street tires from a dead stop is useless unless you want a cloud of smoke. So I would recommend a mid 3000 from my short knowledge of a stall car.
05-11-2007, 05:25 PM
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A LONG time ago there were some OEM "switch pitch" c onverters which offered changing stall. That was before the days of OD though and before converter technology had come as far as it has.
I have no problem towing a small fishing boat behind my car with the 3400 Edge. Keep in mind my car weights a solid 4000lbs without me and with an empty trunk.
The lockup means no downside on the highway.
Highway slippage was the reason "switch pitch" converters were developed all those years ago, allowed high stall for acceleration and low stall for cruise, today we use lockup.
I have no problem towing a small fishing boat behind my car with the 3400 Edge. Keep in mind my car weights a solid 4000lbs without me and with an empty trunk.
The lockup means no downside on the highway.
Highway slippage was the reason "switch pitch" converters were developed all those years ago, allowed high stall for acceleration and low stall for cruise, today we use lockup.
