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Old 05-13-2007, 10:57 PM
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This happen on my second pass at the track Saturday night. The upper radiator hose steel coupling came out of the water pump at the top end of the track. I have seen alot of problems over the years, but have never seen this before. I was on a 7lb spring in the waste gate. I am not real sure what to make of it.

Any suggestions on how to fix it with out the chances of it happening again? The pump has been working great. I really dont want to pull it off to have to go buy another one.
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I know a lot of turbo cars around here have that tapped and a huge AN fitting there to prevent exactly that (I guess). You got pretty lucky to not wreck or hurt yourself.
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No doubt about it I was lucky. I am guessing I will have to pull the pump off and put an AN fitting in there to be on the safe side.
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Most turbo cars put AN fitting on because they have to snake the hose through some pretty hot and tight spots I never seen that before, it must have been pried on or dropped or something at one time - it took me a while to yank one out when I wanted to weld a fiting to one - they are in there pretty tight..
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Originally Posted by kp
Most turbo cars put AN fitting on because they have to snake the hose through some pretty hot and tight spots I never seen that before, it must have been pried on or dropped or something at one time - it took me a while to yank one out when I wanted to weld a fiting to one - they are in there pretty tight..
Thats what I thought. The water pump hasnt been dropped or pried on since I have owned the car. Hmmmm. Now the debate. Add a AN style fitting or weld a aluminum sleeve on the water pump. Eighter way the water pump has to come off.
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Just find another pump, its pretty safe to say thats something that doesnt happen very often.
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I think I have another pump in the garage. I need to get off my butt and go luck for it.
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I had a steel pressed in elbow fall out of mine. But mines an LT1 and the one that fell out had been smacked around by a shredded blower belt.
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Those fittings are usually in there really really tight. Any chance that you pressurized the coolant system? I wouldnt think so since you just got the car up.
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That was the first thing I thought of. My coolant sytem is vented at the radiator. I am not pushing any water at all. I would hate to think 7lbs of boost is a problem. The engine was built to hold upwards of 20lbs. It is all studded. I can take that sleeve and push it fully seated into the hole in the water pump and pull it back out with little effort. I am thniking it was pried aginst or something at some point. I dont know. Gonna pull everything off and clean it up and put a diffrent water pump on it. See what happens..
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Id buy a NEW GM pump, who knows what a reman pump goes through! Any chance this was a reman?
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can you not stick it back in there and tack it?
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daniel- the pumps aluminum, that hose fitting is steel. No tacky there! lol

Try JB weld, I had to rotate a 90* pressed in fitting on my LT1 to clear the blower stuff, it leaked afterwards so I JBwelded it back in there and havent had a problem yet. That fittings been in there for years and even got smacked by a shredded blower belt, not leaking yet.
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I am not sure it iis a reman pump or not. I belive it is the stock 44k mile pump that originally came on the car. I called and priced a new pump yesterday. $189 dollars. I may just weld and aluminum sleeve on the pump I have or thread it and use an AN fitting. Eigther way is cheaper than a new pump.
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valvegod@aol.com i got a oem pump from for $80

the blowout was not boost related, it would burst the rad. hose or the plastic radiator first
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I know remans use some kinda of glue in there. Look at an autozone rebuild they have green glue **** leaked all over the pump half the time. Id stay factory pump, no one tests anything more then the original manufacturers.




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