DirtyJohn
05-31-2007, 11:01 PM
Alright so I've been reading through this section 'stickies first' as best as my non mathematical brain will let me for a week or so to try and come up with an affordable replacement solution to my dead system.
I've blown a front and a sail panel and decided to go with after market speakers.
Fair enough.
I got crazy and bought two sets of Alpine SPS-170a's off ebay, if they ever show up.
With the plans to run two in the fronts, and two in the sails using the signals from the hatch speakers (as per recommendation I read in a thread in one of many searches).
So now I am left with 2 JL Audio 6W0's to either sell back on ebay, or put to use in the car to round off the system with some bass. (I bought them about two years ago thinking they would be good as the sail replacements, two failed install attempts later they are collecting dust and depreciating)
I am not an audiophile by any means, but I would like an improvement over what the stock had to offer, before my woofers got stuck. I don't need a ton of bass shaking my rear view, but I do listen to a mix of hip-hop and rock types so I would like it to be at least noticeable/felt more than what the stockers did.
I'd be willing to dish out $1000 to replace the entire setup if it meant stout kit that could be ported to another vehicle (AMP and SUB) in the future.
But around half of that would be nice if it can get me a reasonable improvement from stock. (leaves $$ for go fast parts, which is a priority we all understand)
Two proposed solutions..
Prob an Alpine HU regardless, as its color scheme and quality reputation make me happy, CDA-9883 or CDA-9885 depending on the final total co$t.
Conundrum part.....
Option 1)
Buy a Hifonics Zeus ZXi 8006 and use its "4 x 55-Watts + 200-Watts x 1-ch RMS @ 4-Ohms" To drive the 4 SPS-170A's which apparently run 40 Watt RMS @ 4 ohm, so that should be plenty.
then use the 5th channel "200-Watts x 1-ch RMS @ 4-Ohms" to run the two JL Audio 6W0 in line just behind the back seat (in a box that shouldn't need to be too big, not sure where to point them though) to round out the bass section.
Option 2)
Spend $1000+ on two amps and a 10" and stealth box to power a full shebang system. (I'd research more before I bought amps and subs, but from what I gather it would easily top $1000)
That would mean a stealth box, amp mount panel for two big amps, etc..
Kind of a lot to do for me.
I'd appreciate comments on any of the following..
1) If the proposed setup with the Hifonics amp would even work running it the way I stated.
I guess if I run the two "subs" in line it would create an 8 ohm load, which I don't know if the amp running at 4ohm would run that, I'm guessing it would since the 6W0's have an RMS hovering around 75W and that single channel puts out 200W @ 4ohm.
I'll read it again, and again... but the math I gather from the ohm tutorial leads me to believe that would be somewhere around 100W driving each which is more than would be required.
2) Powering and running the two JL 6W0's would even be worth/noticeable to do.
I like to think it would be an improvement over stock, being in a sealed box and run off a decent amp/HU combo, but don't have the experience to back that up.
Sorry, its a long post and alot to read, I tend to be a bit wordy.
I'd appreciate any thoughts one could give, I tried to give all the pertinant info I could
Thanks for any help,
T.
I've blown a front and a sail panel and decided to go with after market speakers.
Fair enough.
I got crazy and bought two sets of Alpine SPS-170a's off ebay, if they ever show up.
With the plans to run two in the fronts, and two in the sails using the signals from the hatch speakers (as per recommendation I read in a thread in one of many searches).
So now I am left with 2 JL Audio 6W0's to either sell back on ebay, or put to use in the car to round off the system with some bass. (I bought them about two years ago thinking they would be good as the sail replacements, two failed install attempts later they are collecting dust and depreciating)
I am not an audiophile by any means, but I would like an improvement over what the stock had to offer, before my woofers got stuck. I don't need a ton of bass shaking my rear view, but I do listen to a mix of hip-hop and rock types so I would like it to be at least noticeable/felt more than what the stockers did.
I'd be willing to dish out $1000 to replace the entire setup if it meant stout kit that could be ported to another vehicle (AMP and SUB) in the future.
But around half of that would be nice if it can get me a reasonable improvement from stock. (leaves $$ for go fast parts, which is a priority we all understand)
Two proposed solutions..
Prob an Alpine HU regardless, as its color scheme and quality reputation make me happy, CDA-9883 or CDA-9885 depending on the final total co$t.
Conundrum part.....
Option 1)
Buy a Hifonics Zeus ZXi 8006 and use its "4 x 55-Watts + 200-Watts x 1-ch RMS @ 4-Ohms" To drive the 4 SPS-170A's which apparently run 40 Watt RMS @ 4 ohm, so that should be plenty.
then use the 5th channel "200-Watts x 1-ch RMS @ 4-Ohms" to run the two JL Audio 6W0 in line just behind the back seat (in a box that shouldn't need to be too big, not sure where to point them though) to round out the bass section.
Option 2)
Spend $1000+ on two amps and a 10" and stealth box to power a full shebang system. (I'd research more before I bought amps and subs, but from what I gather it would easily top $1000)
That would mean a stealth box, amp mount panel for two big amps, etc..
Kind of a lot to do for me.
I'd appreciate comments on any of the following..
1) If the proposed setup with the Hifonics amp would even work running it the way I stated.
I guess if I run the two "subs" in line it would create an 8 ohm load, which I don't know if the amp running at 4ohm would run that, I'm guessing it would since the 6W0's have an RMS hovering around 75W and that single channel puts out 200W @ 4ohm.
I'll read it again, and again... but the math I gather from the ohm tutorial leads me to believe that would be somewhere around 100W driving each which is more than would be required.
2) Powering and running the two JL 6W0's would even be worth/noticeable to do.
I like to think it would be an improvement over stock, being in a sealed box and run off a decent amp/HU combo, but don't have the experience to back that up.
Sorry, its a long post and alot to read, I tend to be a bit wordy.
I'd appreciate any thoughts one could give, I tried to give all the pertinant info I could
Thanks for any help,
T.