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Robin L
06-10-2007, 10:48 PM
Well we have had a lot of issues and setbacks but our LSX is done and should be running on the dyno shortly.

Doesn't look like many LS engines.

Here is a picture. The guy in the GMPP garb is the engine builder Jeff Stealy. Jeff has worked his butt of on our Nitrous 454 LSX engine. If it bolted to the engine it had to be modified in some way. Jeff has the ability to get things done.

If you guys want to purchase an LSX hat and/or GM Performance Parts T SHirts they are selling online over at gmperformanceparts.com.

Thanks

Robin


sidewayz28
06-10-2007, 10:51 PM
HOLY.... that is amazing, and i want one.. great job guys
how much power you think ur guna make?

Wnts2Go10O
06-10-2007, 11:37 PM
motor is beautiful.

his face says:"it sure is pretty, but god damnit...never again."...lol.


Richard@WCCH
06-10-2007, 11:46 PM
Nice work Robin. :thumb:
It's nice to see a few large displacement builds up and running. They're sure not an easy bolt together. :eek2: Lots of detail and fitting to do.

Congrats on finishing this project. :cheers:

Richard :)

DONAIMIAN
06-11-2007, 12:52 AM
That looks nothing like an LS motor, lol.

Beaflag VonRathburg
06-11-2007, 01:33 AM
That looks nothing like an LS motor, lol.

I know, I was thinking the same thing.

OneQuickCoupe
06-11-2007, 05:09 AM
Super nice. Any word on the power output?

D.J.

Adam_346
06-11-2007, 05:24 AM
that's really nice

MeentSS02
06-11-2007, 07:44 AM
That should put out a nice solid 300 HP...350 tops :jest:

jamesSS
06-11-2007, 08:01 AM
Very nice. x3 on power out put.

texinteg
06-11-2007, 08:18 AM
I am assuming thats a magneato setup that your running.

Robin L
06-11-2007, 08:34 AM
I am assuming thats a magneato setup that your running.

No, that is a MSD Universal Belt Drive Distributor. It has a 1/4" belt that is driven off the front of the Jesel Belt Drive. The MSD Digital Programable is triggered by the Crank Trigger.

Looking for power on Motor in the 950+ range. Will spray an additional 4 to 5 on a NOS Pro Fogger single stage.

Richard, thanks, you understand how much it takes to get something like this done LOL.

Robin

Jason99T/A
06-11-2007, 08:55 AM
Robin, what heads and bottom end components are in the motor? Compression ratio?

The motor looks very good! :)

Jason

MSURacing
06-11-2007, 08:59 AM
So that must be a Pro-jection throttle body then. Funny, I can't see the fuel injectors. Must be a new proto-type from Holley!!!! LOL
Robin, why is the first GMPP's 454 not fuel injected? Seems to me this is a step in the wrong direction. I realize that sanctioning bodies mandate carbs and all, but you guys have pull there at the General and it is time to get EFI regulated in all racing classes. If you guys can't get the rules to change, none of us will be able to. Just a thought. Nice work though, that thing should put the old SBC's in the garbage.

WickEdSix98
06-11-2007, 09:03 AM
Awesome build up, me and my dad have talked about doing the same type of build up for our Top Sportsman truck. It will be interesting to see how its going to run.

Robin L
06-11-2007, 09:40 AM
Robin, what heads and bottom end components are in the motor? Compression ratio?

The motor looks very good! :)

Jason


Lunati Crankshaft
Diamond Pistons
GRP Aluminum Rods
GMPP C5R Heads Prepped by Don West


Compression ratio is 14.5 to 1

It took a ton of work by Jeff at Stealy to make this deal work.


Robin

Bryan @ Speed Inc.
06-11-2007, 10:34 AM
i think i need a new pair of shorts. that's gorgeous - i might buy a ring for it and propose...

erikthegoalie
06-11-2007, 10:46 AM
No, that is a MSD Universal Belt Drive Distributor. It has a 1/4" belt that is driven off the front of the Jesel Belt Drive. The MSD Digital Programable is triggered by the Crank Trigger.

Looking for power on Motor in the 950+ range. Will spray an additional 4 to 5 on a NOS Pro Fogger single stage. Richard, thanks, you understand how much it takes to get something like this done LOL.

Robin


Sounds $$$ lol

texinteg
06-11-2007, 10:59 AM
Removed due to a half ass legal Issue.

Noyzee
06-11-2007, 11:10 AM
Lunati Crankshaft
Diamond Pistons
GRP Aluminum Rods
GMPP C5R Heads Prepped by Don West


Compression ratio is 14.5 to 1

It took a ton of work by Jeff at Stealy to make this deal work.


Robin
i have the same pistions and rods, so i should be about 900 hp. lol jk.
looks great, man i was hoping you used a stock style oil pan. im tweeking over the grp rods hitting the oil pan, and i still dont have my parts back to test fit everything. doh.
when will it be in the car?
good luck for sure!!


off topic, tex, great looking set up :chug:

Reckless
06-11-2007, 12:01 PM
Nice Robin...almost thought that was Moran when I opened the photo :)

texinteg
06-11-2007, 12:29 PM
off topic, tex, great looking set up :chug:


Thanks Noyzee. I cant wait to build the LSX block next. I have one sitting here at work. I am just waiting on the heads to get started.

KCS
06-12-2007, 10:42 AM
Thanks Noyzee. I cant wait to build the LSX block next. I have one sitting here at work. I am just waiting on the heads to get started.
I gotta know, where did you get those valve covers!?

Stang's Bane
06-12-2007, 11:00 AM
They are GMPP valve covers. They are a little over $100 apiece. He had them powdercoated/painted. I really like how he recut the grooves, looks really, really good!!

where did you get the wire holders though???

BigBronco
06-12-2007, 11:25 AM
Super nice Robin! Can not wait to see this motor and car go down the track!

Katech_Jason
06-12-2007, 12:07 PM
looks like a bigger version of my engine. I like it though. What kind of vehicle is it going in. Sorry I am not as familar with your setup as some of the other guys on here. Here is a pic of the engine I am working on currently.
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa136/texinteg/lsr3.jpg


Wow. I like what you did with the spark plug wires.

texinteg
06-13-2007, 06:59 AM
They are GMPP valve covers. They are a little over $100 apiece. He had them powdercoated/painted. I really like how he recut the grooves, looks really, really good!!

where did you get the wire holders though???

Well my machinest Bryan made them for us. You cant see it in the pictures but there are looms under the manifold made out of billet that hold the wires in place. Every custom part you see on that engine(and even some that you dont) Bryan made. If you like those you sould see his billet aluminum engine mounts. Oh and after we powder coated the valve covers he went back over and ball milled them along with the valley cover.

Stang's Bane
06-13-2007, 07:30 AM
Well my machinest Bryan made them for us. You cant see it in the pictures but there are looms under the manifold made out of billet that hold the wires in place. Every custom part you see on that engine(and even some that you dont) Bryan made. If you like those you sould see his billet aluminum engine mounts. Oh and after we powder coated the valve covers he went back over and ball milled them along with the valley cover.
I noticed that. I was thinking about having mine done.

I can't tell you how good that looks!!!! :drive:

texinteg
06-13-2007, 08:47 AM
Yeah those are some of the nice finishing touches that Bryan does for us when he does an engine for us. Everytime is different though. depend on what mood he is in i guess.

98Z28CobraKiller
06-13-2007, 09:02 AM
Yeah those are some of the nice finishing touches that Bryan does for us when he does an engine for us. Everytime is different though. depend on what mood he is in i guess.


Will the routing of the wires work like that once the headers are on. Looks like some are going right over the exhaust ports. Could be the angle of the picture though. F'ing beautifull, regardles !!

S1LV3R
06-13-2007, 09:03 AM
That looks nothing like an LS motor, lol.

Looks like a miniature Pro Stock motor.

98Z28CobraKiller
06-13-2007, 09:04 AM
Well we have had a lot of issues and setbacks but our LSX is done and should be running on the dyno shortly.

Doesn't look like many LS engines.

Here is a picture. The guy in the GMPP garb is the engine builder Jeff Stealy. Jeff has worked his butt of on our Nitrous 454 LSX engine. If it bolted to the engine it had to be modified in some way. Jeff has the ability to get things done.

If you guys want to purchase an LSX hat and/or GM Performance Parts T SHirts they are selling online over at gmperformanceparts.com.

Thanks

Robin

Does that intake have the tube that runs inside (down the length) with the nozzles that spray right into the runners? I cant remember the name of the system now.

KCS
06-13-2007, 11:14 AM
Cigaro?

MSURacing
06-13-2007, 01:34 PM
looks like a bigger version of my engine. I like it though. What kind of vehicle is it going in. Sorry I am not as familar with your setup as some of the other guys on here. Here is a pic of the engine I am working on currently.
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa136/texinteg/lsr3.jpg

That is an awesome looking setup. Not to keen on the distributor, but it looks awesome. On a side note, be carefull with the timing pointer on the balancer like that. Those balancers have a tendancy to slip, which would reak havok on your timing. Good job though.

NemeSS
06-13-2007, 02:01 PM
looks like a bigger version of my engine. I like it though. What kind of vehicle is it going in. Sorry I am not as familar with your setup as some of the other guys on here. Here is a pic of the engine I am working on currently.
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa136/texinteg/lsr3.jpg


man that looks killer!! :headbang:

Robin L
06-13-2007, 11:03 PM
It's on the dyno and we fired it up.

More later

Robin

SScott236
06-13-2007, 11:16 PM
Wow thats awesome!

texinteg
06-14-2007, 06:49 AM
Will the routing of the wires work like that once the headers are on. Looks like some are going right over the exhaust ports. Could be the angle of the picture though. F'ing beautifull, regardles !!


The wires clear the headers no problem. They come down in the same locationa as stock.

texinteg
06-14-2007, 06:50 AM
That is an awesome looking setup. Not to keen on the distributor, but it looks awesome. On a side note, be carefull with the timing pointer on the balancer like that. Those balancers have a tendancy to slip, which would reak havok on your timing. Good job though.

Not if your running a Crank key.

Cant wait to see wht kind of numbers that engine puts down Robin L

TRW427SS
06-14-2007, 01:13 PM
So that must be a Pro-jection throttle body then. Funny, I can't see the fuel injectors. Must be a new proto-type from Holley!!!! LOL
Robin, why is the first GMPP's 454 not fuel injected? Seems to me this is a step in the wrong direction. I realize that sanctioning bodies mandate carbs and all, but you guys have pull there at the General and it is time to get EFI regulated in all racing classes. If you guys can't get the rules to change, none of us will be able to. Just a thought. Nice work though, that thing should put the old SBC's in the garbage.


In the NMCA NPS class EFI is allowed! :judge: Schroeder's NPS 02 Camaro 632ci has EFI! :devil:

Robin L
06-15-2007, 07:57 AM
So that must be a Pro-jection throttle body then. Funny, I can't see the fuel injectors. Must be a new proto-type from Holley!!!! LOL
Robin, why is the first GMPP's 454 not fuel injected? Seems to me this is a step in the wrong direction. I realize that sanctioning bodies mandate carbs and all, but you guys have pull there at the General and it is time to get EFI regulated in all racing classes. If you guys can't get the rules to change, none of us will be able to. Just a thought. Nice work though, that thing should put the old SBC's in the garbage.


Hahaha. yeah I am a lot more comfortable with Fuel Injection than the carbs. As stated above EFI is allowed in NPS with a weight penalty.
With the new car and engine program I felt it would minimize the complications by going with carbs.
I still have to sort out the Nitrous and the clutch.

I may look at EFI once we get this thing sorted out. With the carbs we are using working so well I may just stick to them.

Robin

WOTFMAN
06-15-2007, 08:52 AM
Hahaha. yeah I am a lot more comfortable with Fuel Injection than the carbs. As stated above EFI is allowed in NPS with a weight penalty.
With the new car and engine program I felt it would minimize the complications by going with carbs.
I still have to sort out the Nitrous and the clutch.

I may look at EFI once we get this thing sorted out. With the carbs we are using working so well I may just stick to them.

Robin
Not to mention you can make more power with carbs.

98Z28CobraKiller
06-15-2007, 10:43 AM
Cigaro?

Yeah, that's the system that I was trying to put my finger on. OTZAL is what they call the spray bar that goes inside the intake, I think.

98Z28CobraKiller
06-15-2007, 10:45 AM
It's on the dyno and we fired it up.

More later

Robin


So what did it make?

Robin L
06-15-2007, 08:17 PM
Well, while not the 950 that I wanted am pleased. It made 930 at 8400 RPM. It made 666 Torque at 6600 RPM.

Watch for yourself.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8LjUQzJurs


Robin

OneQuickCoupe
06-15-2007, 09:53 PM
Well, while not the 950 that I wanted am pleased. It made 930 at 8400 RPM. It made 666 Torque at 6600 RPM.

Watch for yourself.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8LjUQzJurs


Robin

Are you running GMPP LS-7 heads on it or aftermarket? Has a nice crisp sound to it. Just saw where you posted about the heads being C5R's.

D.J.

Neil
06-20-2007, 02:49 PM
What size cam are you using? I imagine you may not want to share that information, but that would be helpful. I am trying to decide on a cam for my 454 LSX which is waiting for a cam at the moment?

XxXTransAmXxX
07-04-2007, 01:00 PM
made 666 Torque at 6600 RPM.

Robin


It truly is a beast....