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Old 06-11-2007, 07:13 PM
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Default HotCam going in, need a lil INFO

I will be installing my hotcam (LSA 112, 218/227 Duration, 525/525) Lift this week and I bought the following:
GM crank bolt
Ls2 timing chain
Ls6 valve springs

Ls6 oil pump, but a sponsor told me I didn't need it! is it true?
What size chromoly pushrods and what thickness?
What else do you guys recommend?
thanks
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You don't NEED a new oil pump but why not these ones sometime fail, I would personally upgrade it while you are in there better be safe then sorry.
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Oil pump isn't "needed", just like formula001 said, you might as well while you are in there, if it's in the budget. You also don't "need" pushrods, but it's too easy to do them during a cam swap. You would need a set of staock length pushrods. It would be a good idea to change your valve seals while in there as well, but again not a "need". You'll also need water pump gaskets and something else I'm forgetting.
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longer crank bolt.
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Originally Posted by sroach20
longer crank bolt.
Why? So he can do this?
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/729092-please-help-broke-bolt-off-end-my-crank.html
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To answer your question, you'll need 7.4 inch pushrods.
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Originally Posted by 2xLS1
what should he use a sledgehammer? the crank and the pulley in that thread were different sizes. ive used the long bolt three times and no trouble.
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The long bolt works fine as long as you just run it in w/ a ratchet and not an impact wrench.
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Originally Posted by sroach20
what should he use a sledgehammer? the crank and the pulley in that thread were different sizes. ive used the long bolt three times and no trouble.
Do it the right way. Use some all-thread, a washer and a nut. In the many years I've been reading this forum there have been dozens upon dozens of people who have broken longer bolts off in their cranks, or screwed up their crank threads using a longer bolt, yet people still say it's the way to do it. It doesn't matter though. People like you will never be convinced the longer bolt is not the correct way to install a pulley.
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Originally Posted by 2xLS1
Do it the right way. Use some all-thread, a washer and a nut. In the many years I've been reading this forum there have been dozens upon dozens of people who have broken longer bolts off in their cranks, or screwed up their crank threads using a longer bolt, yet people still say it's the way to do it. It doesn't matter though. People like you will never be convinced the longer bolt is not the correct way to install a pulley.
yeah, how can i be convinced when a hardened long bolt works.
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Formula001
thanks, I wanted to do it anyways and it was in my budget.
ws6wrx
thanks, Water pump gaskets can't forget those
2xls1
thanks no long bolts!
sspdmon
thanks 7.4in stk length PR's

Am I forgeting anything else?
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To install the dampener, I was going to make the all thread type tool until I read about gently heating it to ease the install. So, I put the dampener in a 200 degree oven for 20 minutes. It nearly slid right on only requiring a few gentle taps with a wooden block and hammer.

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the oil pump in the car now is fine, its the older ones which aren't as good. stock size pushrods are what you need. gaskets and crank bolt(just go to a gm dealership and pick up a stock one cheap)
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I'm just curious, what made you decide on the Hot Cam?
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It's was free brotha!!
from mike Alsop the winner of the Spike tv Bullrun show!
I know its not a big cam but It doesn't matter cause I'm satisfied w/it.
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Originally Posted by litle8
What else do you guys recommend?
thanks
Just did my install this weekend. I would recommend an entire set of ANGLED HEAD gear wrenches, they are invaluable to owning an LSx car Valve cover gaskets can't hurt, new front engine seal is worthwhile... you got it pretty much covered in the thread here. Good luck, take your time, be patient, and if something pisses you off, take a break and go back to it... tried to line up the cam gear on my car for 2.5hrs Friday night, was frustrated and went to sleep. Woke up 630 the next morning, had it setup in 15 minutes. Just needed the break. Have fun, it's a great learning experience, and when you first fire that thing up it's completely worthwhile

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Originally Posted by lastcall190
Just did my install this weekend. I would recommend an entire set of ANGLED HEAD gear wrenches, they are invaluable to owning an LSx car Valve cover gaskets can't hurt, new front engine seal is worthwhile... you got it pretty much covered in the thread here. Good luck, take your time, be patient, and if something pisses you off, take a break and go back to it... tried to line up the cam gear on my car for 2.5hrs Friday night, was frustrated and went to sleep. Woke up 630 the next morning, had it setup in 15 minutes. Just needed the break. Have fun, it's a great learning experience, and when you first fire that thing up it's completely worthwhile

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Thanks brotha!
I ordered my LS2 timing chain and LS6 valve springs from TSP and should be here on the 18th. Thursday I'm stoping by Speedinc and picking up the chromoly PR's,LS6 oil pump, and the water pump gaskets w/ a gm crank bolt.
I might just order the under drive pulley!!!
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Originally Posted by litle8
It's was free brotha!!
from mike Alsop the winner of the Spike tv Bullrun show!
I know its not a big cam but It doesn't matter cause I'm satisfied w/it.
Free is the best price!!! Enjoy!!
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Im REALLY wishing I had gone with a bigger cam. That way I would at least have the power associated with cams that speak as nasty as the hotcam and have just as many problems.
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Well I went to Speedinc and "I was told that a melling oil pump is better than the LS6", What do you melling users think? I also got the Comp Pr's. All feedback will be appreciated!!!!



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